Re: need help understanding yeast & fruit connection

[Guest guest]

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Some peoples yeast is extremely bad. Some people actually can

eliminate it by following a stricter diet than SCD. No fruits or

honey. There are books out there. Also not only eliminate every

possible food that it feeds on, but a rotation diet at that. Now Ive

done this for my son in the beginning because his gut was so

horrible. I found that if he ate one food more that two times in a

row, he was allergic to it. That was all foods. So for several months

we followed candida alimination diet and rotated very strictly for

several months.I cant do that diet On my son. Well I could do it but

what I choose to do is ernergetic medicine that rids yeast,

probiotics, SCD just started and he is doing great, and I also use a

NRG foot bath thats a alternative support that helps the bodys detox

process. Lots of improvement already. Thank God I was getting nervous.

I prefer to add other alternative methods to go along with a good

diet to control yeast. Then I know he does not have to be so

frustrated with all the changes. Im a firm believer that diet is a

huge part of healing , but not the only piece to the puzzle for some

kids.

kimberly tristans mom

5yr autistic.

> After getting my family on board for the anti-yeast diet we've been

> following (eliminating all sugars including fruit) how do I explain

> to them why fruit is now allowed? If yeast can feed on the sugar

in

> fruit pre-SCD, what is different about SCD that they don't feed on

it

> now? I understand the premise that all foods on SCD are absorbed

and

> there's nothing for bacteria etc to feed on, but if the fruit is

> absorbed on SCD, why wasn't it absorbed pre-SCD? Or why was it

> accessible to yeast? My DAN doc doesn't want us to allow the fruit

on

> this diet, but there's no way I could do SCD without it. Can you

> help me understand so I can feel comfortable with my decision?

> Thanks, , mom to Jack 3 1/2 ASD

[Guest guest]

I understand the premise that all foods on SCD are absorbed and

> there's nothing for bacteria etc to feed on, but if the fruit is

> absorbed on SCD, why wasn't it absorbed pre-SCD? Or why was it

> accessible to yeast? My DAN doc doesn't want us to allow the fruit

on

> this diet, but there's no way I could do SCD without it. Can you

> help me understand so I can feel comfortable with my decision?

> Thanks, , mom to Jack 3 1/2 ASD

This is a tough and controversial issue, in my opinion.

Elaine always says that the yeast and bacteria " ride piggyback " in

the biofilm in the gut, and so are addressed by similar measures.

She also says, if yeast is an issue, then honey should be reduced by

at least 75% in recipes at the beginning (both these are in teh

book, BTVC).

Some listmates ahve found that using no fruit or honey at the

beginning (I've read reports of people who did this for 2 weeks to a

few months) is what they had to do to deal with yeast. I've also

read reports that some people needed Rx antifungals and/or natural

antifungals AS WELL AS SCD to really get the yeast down.

In my son's case, he went on SCD after 2 monhts of Diflucan and a

couple of weeks of Nystatin. His yeast has gone down on SCD (not

gone, but within normal ranges) as per OAT tests, MORE than it went

down on the antifungals. We used grape juice in gelatin from day

(half strength), and started cooked applesauce after probably 2

weeks. We kept all fruits and veg. cooked until just recently,

and even now I only give raw fruit occasionally (though I plan to

give him more as summer comes).

SCD is meant to be used pretty much as written. It is meant to be a

balanced diet of carbs, proteins, fats. If you/your child ends up

eating mostly protein, because you take out fruit and honey, and

child won't eat loads of veggies, that is not a good idea, and not

as SCD was intended.

I know this really isn't an explantion of the why's. I'm sure

others will chime in. Good luck!

-- Sue, mom to Adam (6, ASD) and (9, n/t, gut issues)

SCD 8 months

[Guest guest]

antifungals, diflucan, nystatin never did anything for my son he was

so severe. I believe it made things worse. But diet and homeovitics

grabs hold almost right away. good luck

> I understand the premise that all foods on SCD are absorbed and

> > there's nothing for bacteria etc to feed on, but if the fruit is

> > absorbed on SCD, why wasn't it absorbed pre-SCD? Or why was it

> > accessible to yeast? My DAN doc doesn't want us to allow the

fruit

> on

> > this diet, but there's no way I could do SCD without it. Can you

> > help me understand so I can feel comfortable with my decision?

> > Thanks, , mom to Jack 3 1/2 ASD

>

> This is a tough and controversial issue, in my opinion.

>

> Elaine always says that the yeast and bacteria " ride piggyback " in

> the biofilm in the gut, and so are addressed by similar measures.

> She also says, if yeast is an issue, then honey should be reduced

by

> at least 75% in recipes at the beginning (both these are in teh

> book, BTVC).

>

> Some listmates ahve found that using no fruit or honey at the

> beginning (I've read reports of people who did this for 2 weeks to

a

> few months) is what they had to do to deal with yeast. I've also

> read reports that some people needed Rx antifungals and/or natural

> antifungals AS WELL AS SCD to really get the yeast down.

>

> In my son's case, he went on SCD after 2 monhts of Diflucan and a

> couple of weeks of Nystatin. His yeast has gone down on SCD (not

> gone, but within normal ranges) as per OAT tests, MORE than it

went

> down on the antifungals. We used grape juice in gelatin from day

> (half strength), and started cooked applesauce after probably 2

> weeks. We kept all fruits and veg. cooked until just recently,

> and even now I only give raw fruit occasionally (though I plan to

> give him more as summer comes).

>

> SCD is meant to be used pretty much as written. It is meant to be

a

> balanced diet of carbs, proteins, fats. If you/your child ends up

> eating mostly protein, because you take out fruit and honey, and

> child won't eat loads of veggies, that is not a good idea, and not

> as SCD was intended.

>

> I know this really isn't an explantion of the why's. I'm sure

> others will chime in. Good luck!

>

> -- Sue, mom to Adam (6, ASD) and (9, n/t, gut issues)

> SCD 8 months

[Guest guest]

It seems like you mention homeovitics in almost every post you send.

What is it? I have never heard of such a thing.

>

>

> antifungals, diflucan, nystatin never did anything for my son he

was

> so severe. I believe it made things worse. But diet and homeovitics

> grabs hold almost right away. good luck

[Guest guest]

It s a detox method I dont sell it I just use the heck out ofit.

Go to the homeodetox-talk group they are users of this method andmany

other alternatives kim

> >

> >

> > antifungals, diflucan, nystatin never did anything for my son he

> was

> > so severe. I believe it made things worse. But diet and

homeovitics

> > grabs hold almost right away. good luck