test results/interpretation needed

[Guest guest]

I am going to DAN Doc tomorrow to discuss results from a series of tests I

had done on my 8 year old son. Andy suggested having them faxed to me before

hand so I could post them and see if anyone had any suggestions. I really am at

a

standstill, I have not been able to make sense out of any of it. Why would

his thyroid fTSH be severly high? I know his thyroid was tested in the past and

was fine. I tried to apply " counting rules " to hair analysis but its from a

different lab- does this matter? I cant correlate any results to the references

I have but frankly I dont know what Im looking for. I know that his lead

level was high 2.388 and reference range is<1.559. Is this really high or do

alot

of children have levels of lead like this? Any comments are appreciated.

Thanks!

Lori

Here we go.......

Elemental Hair Analysis ( Great Smokies Diag. Lab)

reference range

Aluminum- 10.25 <23.13

Antimony  .08 <0.03 ( circled and star next to it)

Arsenic- .068 <.082

Barium- .20 <3.26

Bismuth- .211 <.244

Cadmium- .046    <.106

lead- 2.3888 <1.559 ( circled - i assume meaning high)

nickel- .309 <.559

tin- .2026 <.1825

uranium- .056 <.056

Ca/Mg outside range 16.6

Ca/P outside range 1.6

nutrient elements in range except:

reference range

chromium .71 .17- .49

molybdenum.061 .015- .048

sulfur 53, 754 43,122 - 51,875

vanadium 0.1377 .0254 - .0574

iron 23.82 13.51 - 18.48

The Great Plains Lab:

High Gliadorphin 1.22

(The casomorphin was normal?) but I took milk out of his diet begore test.

Many pages of organic acid results?? I dont know what Im looking for here.

Except the interpretation states that there is elevated yeast/fungal

overgrowth of the gastrointestinal tract.

Increased citric

elevated HVA

Elevated Kynurenic

increased glutaric acid

Metametrix Lab:

shows low essential elements

chronium.24

magnesium 21

selenium .10

vanadium.09

Rosemed(stool sample):

increased clostridia, increased fat, increased protein, increased fiber,

reduced secretory Immunoglobuline

Conclusion: Low resistance of the intestinal mucosa

Diagnos-Tech, Inc.( saliva test)

( thyroid stimulating hormone)- states " severely abnormal " fTSH  is 300(very

high), however fT4 and fT3 are low-borderline low

Spectra cell Lab:

found the following functionl deficiencies:

Vitamin b12, zinc, cysteine

Total Antioxidant function: Deficient 23.1 percentile

Any sense you can make of this is appreciated.

Thanks,

Lori

[Guest guest]

Lori,

I've interspersed my comments with some your questions.

S

Why would <BR>

his thyroid fTSH be severly high? I know his thyroid was tested in the past and

<BR>

was fine.

* mercury toxicity affects thyroid function.

I tried to apply " counting rules " to hair analysis but its from a <BR>

different lab- does this matter?

*Counting rules are specific to DDI.

I know that his lead <BR>

level was high 2.388 and reference range is<1.559.

*Lead is a problem. Identify and eliminate his source of exposure. DMSA

chelates both lead and mercury.

Lori  <BR>

Antimony  .08               <0.03           ( circled and star next to it)<BR>

*Antimony is used in flame retardant on sleepwear, bedding, uphostered

furniture, etc.

lead-         2.3888         <1.559 ( circled - i assume meaning high)<BR>

>

*Yes, high. Identify and eliminate sources of exposure, then consider chelation

using Andy's protocol if your child has NO mercury amalgam dental fillings.

chromium .71             .17-  .49<BR>

molybdenum.061         .015- .048<BR>

sulfur            53, 754      43,122 - 51,875<BR>

vanadium    0.1377           .0254 - .0574<BR>

iron        23.82           13.51 - 18.48<BR>

*Is your son on supplements? If so, which ones?

The Great Plains Lab:<BR>

<BR>

High Gliadorphin 1.22<BR>

(The casomorphin was normal?) but I took milk out of his diet begore test.<BR>

>

Is he GF?

>

Many pages of organic acid results?? I dont know what Im looking for here.<BR>

Except the interpretation states that there is elevated yeast/fungal <BR>

overgrowth of the gastrointestinal tract. <BR>

>

*Do you use probiotics?

>

Metametrix Lab:<BR>

<BR>

shows low essential elements<BR>

chronium.24<BR>

magnesium 21<BR>

selenium .10<BR>

vanadium.09<BR>

*Using what media? Hair, urine, blood?

Rosemed(stool sample):<BR>

increased fat, increased protein, increased fiber, <BR>

>

Conclusion: Low resistance of the intestinal mucosa<BR>

>

*Sounds like another way of saying dysbiosis/malabsoption/leaky gut?

>

Thanks, <BR>

Lori<BR>

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[Guest guest]

> I know that his lead

> level was high 2.388 and reference range is<1.559.

> Is this really high

No. You would like it lower and it will impair intelligence by 5-10

IQ points more or less, but it isn't " really high. " Lots of people

have this much. It isn't good for them, and it is best to get rid of

it, but it is seldom the cause of serious developmental problems.

> Elemental Hair Analysis ( Great Smokies Diag. Lab)

> reference range

> Aluminum- 10.25 <23.13

Something is wrong with this reference range. It seems too high.

> Antimony  .08 <0.03 ( circled and star next

to it)

This really isn't very high. It just means to get rid of the flame

retardant pyjamas and wash all the bedding several times in hot water

with washing soda to reduce antimony levels. BTW, anything labeled

" pyjamas " has been treated with antimony salts for flame retardancy.

> Arsenic- .068 <.082

> Barium- .20 <3.26

> Bismuth- .211 <.244

> Cadmium- .046    <.106

> lead- 2.3888 <1.559 ( circled - i assume meaning

high)

Not THAT high.

> nickel- .309 <.559

> tin- .2026 <.1825

> uranium- .056 <.056

>

>

> Ca/Mg outside range 16.6

> Ca/P outside range 1.6

>

> nutrient elements in range except:

> reference range

> chromium .71 .17- .49

> molybdenum.061 .015- .048

> sulfur 53, 754 43,122 - 51,875

> vanadium 0.1377 .0254 - .0574

> iron 23.82 13.51 - 18.48

Do these go all the way to the edge? Were sodium and potassium on the

report or not?

You probably need to get the test re-run using Doctor's Data

laboratories (or Great Plains, which does the same test) and get a

hair element profile, don't get the test with " toxic " in the title.

>

> The Great Plains Lab:

>

> High Gliadorphin 1.22

> (The casomorphin was normal?) but I took milk out of his diet begore

test.

I don't know how reliable and indicator this is that he will get

better on a gluten free diet, but you might want to try it for a few

weeks. You don't have to try months and months if that is horribly

difficult since most people do respond in a few weeks if they are

going to.

> Many pages of organic acid results?? I dont know what Im looking for

here.

> Except the interpretation states that there is elevated yeast/fungal

> overgrowth of the gastrointestinal tract.

This is invariably found.

> Increased citric

> elevated HVA

> Elevated Kynurenic

Common. Meaning unclear without seeing it all.

> increased glutaric acid

Don't feed him stuff containing MSG (accent, flavor enhancer).

> Metametrix Lab:

>

> shows low essential elements

> chronium.24

> magnesium 21

> selenium .10

> vanadium.09

Supplement with these. Was zinc NOT low? Zinc and magnesium and

molybdenum are usually low or at least towards the low side in people

with mercury problems.

> Rosemed(stool sample):

> increased clostridia, increased fat, increased protein, increased

fiber,

He needs digestive enzymes with bile, maybe other things.

> reduced secretory Immunoglobuline

He needs adequate amounts of vitamin A. Multiply his weight in pounds

by 500, give him that many IU's of A daily. Make sure it is not " as

carotenes. "

> Conclusion: Low resistance of the intestinal mucosa

Yup.

> Diagnos-Tech, Inc.( saliva test)

> ( thyroid stimulating hormone)- states " severely abnormal " fTSH  is

300(very

> high), however fT4 and fT3 are low-borderline low

If the results are accurate he is hypothyroid. Hypothyroidism causes

brain damage in children. It is very important that children not be

too low in thyroid hormone. There is very little risk from giving

them too much if you don't give them a LOT too much, so I'd suggest

trying some (1/4 to 1/2 grain armour thyroid or biothroid) immediately

following drawing blood for a test of the following:

TSH, T3, T4, free T3, free T4.

Insurance should cover this test if it is coded appropriately.

All of these need to be ordered (no matter what the doctor thinks) and

they aren't replaceable by other things like fTI or T3 uptake.

Anything ELSE the doc wants can also be ordered as long as you get

these.

> Spectra cell Lab:

>

> found the following functionl deficiencies:

> Vitamin b12, zinc, cysteine

I am not sure I believe it. I would not suggest feeding him the

cysteine solely on this basis. If B-12 is deficient, methylmalonate

should be elevated on the organic acid test and MCV and MCH should be

elevated on the CBC (blood count). B-12 doesn't cause lasting

problems in those who don't tolerate it once it is discontinued, and

most people do tolerate it fine so if you want to try it you can. It

is fine to give it orally - he doesn't need shots. Just give

5,000-10 ,000 mcg a day by mouth.

Zinc deficiency is very common in mercury toxic people (and leads to

growth failure, behavioral problems similar to autism and brain damage

if it lasts too long) but it is interesting that it didn't show up in

the blood test. It is safe to supplement him with 15 mg of zinc 3 or

4 times a day for a month or two while you sort things out - if he

needs it you will see good results, and if he doesn't it won't be a

problem if you stop after a month or two.

> Total Antioxidant function: Deficient 23.1 percentile

You can't hurt him by giving him more antioxidants.

> Any sense you can make of this is appreciated.

Unfortunately the doctor didn't choose to order the right tests to be

able to tell if he has a mercury problem or not. these results are

suggestive of a mercury problem though.

You need to verify the thyroid values (VERY IMPORTANT!!!!!!!), get a

doctor's data hair element profile or Great Plains hair test, and see

whether the doctor says silly or sensible stuff based on these results

(by talking about what he says on the list and referring to your

original test results post).

> Thanks,

> Lori

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