Guest guest Posted January 6, 2001 Report Share Posted January 6, 2001 Hi Dawn: Well, I didn't have this problem before the surgery, so I am not sure. I talked with my doc about it, and we decided that I should try having either 1/2 a sandwich with meat and cheese, or 1/2 a protein shake just before bed. I tried the sandwich last night, and it seemed to work. I'm not sure what's causing it, but before the surgery, when I would eat quite a bit of food, I usually ate dinner pretty late, and then snacked until bedtime, so I always went to bed full. That could be it too. Or, I'm not eating enough during the day. Anyway, I will keep playing with it, until I get it fixed. Thanks for your thoughts. Warmly, Dawn wrote: Hey Girlie! First of all, my congrats to you!! Told ya so! (nah, nah, nah, nah, nah! ).I don't wake up starving, however we have heard of people who experienced this prior to surgery, and still are trying coping mechanisms to overcome their addiction to food, but WON'T give in, as it was an old habit that got them into trouble and gaining weight in the first place. I'm sorry I can't help, but exactly what did you eat prior to going to bed? I for one, have massive nightmares for some stupid reason if I eat too much spaghetti sauce before bed, unless I wait it out at least 4-5 hours before going to sleep...DON'T ask me why...just happens...like everything happens for a reason!!! Congrats sweetie!!! Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Waldman Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 4:38 PM To: OSSG-NewEnglandegroups Subject: Hunger Hi there! Me again! I have been spacing out my meals better, and I think the hunger thing is lessening. But now, I have another question: in the middle of the night, I wake up starving, and I can't fall back asleep. After about an hour, I will get up and have something to eat. Anyone else have this problem? Any ideas how to solve it? And just to also share some good news - in my last post I mentioned that I had gained 3 pounds. Well, I lost it and another 2 to boot! So, in 5 weeks, I have lost 30 pounds! Pretty good, eh? <grin> I'm happy. Thanks! Dawn wrote: , NO it is NOT BAD to be hungry, it's NORMAL! LOL! I guess I wrote that wrong, what I meant, is, some days I have little or no appetite, other days, I feel like I can continue like the Energizer bunny!!!! I keep going, and going, and.............If you're anything like most woman sweetie, it's called FLUID RETENTION most likely, and occurs if you're PMSing (I ALWAYS PMS!), high sodium intake, and not enough water to flush you out.....and/or, eating high caloric foods over an extended period of time. May I suggest, tomorrow, eat the protein / healthy b-fast in the a.m., drink water, snack on a piece of fruit, or something light, then protein for lunch (maybe tuna on wheat, with lettuce or tomatoes?), a bit of MAYO on that of course, then maybe some cheese/yogurt for snack, then the whole rigmarole for dinner? Do you see a Nutritionist down there? If not, I HIGHLY recommend you do, they are a HUGE help to me for sure, and I MUST get back to her, as I tend to fall "off the wagon" just a tad too much lately! If you're worried about gaining, try this for a few days...its is NORMAL to go up/down, we're only human sweetie! Unless you're having pain/discomfort, etc., I personally don't think the Dr. call is necessary, however, I am NOT a Dr. to judge that, only you can make that decision. Hang in there!! HUGS! Dawn -----Original Message----- From: Waldman Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 7:44 PM To: OSSG-NewEnglandegroups Subject: Re: Hunger....I had seconds!!!! Okay, Dawn, so is it bad to be hungry? I weighed myself today and I have GAINED 3 pounds since Thurs. Obviously, I am doing something wrong! HELP!! Any advice will be appreciated. I am calling my doctor tomorrow cause now, I'm worried. Dawn wrote: , I'm hungry most of the time too sweetie, trust me, you're NOT alone! The only time I sometimes have problems lacking "hunger" is in the a.m....I'm NOT a morning person by any means, and rarely ate b-fast until after surgery, or if I was TOLD to by some diet authority figure! Today for instance, I was hungry in the a.m., so I had my usual Cin/Raisin English Muffin w/pb...then for lunch (ate late), I couldn't stop eating!!! Usually, when eating the meats, potatos and veggies, I can eat a small portion...today I had SECONDS of a small portion, and made myself stop, cuz I was STILL HUNGRY!!! UGH !! Dawn Re: welcome julie Hi Rayna: I guess I am the weird one, then, because most people I have talked to say the same as you - that they are not hungry. Well, I am! I certainly don't eat much, but I do feel hunger throughout the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 , I too wake up in the middle of the night and want to eat. Now, I'm not saying this is your problem but it is mine and this is what I did, and still do. I feel this is like playing with fire behavior. If I don't get a hold on it right NOW. It is going to lead to old behavior eating. If I eat a good dinner at a normal time, NOTHING after 8PM. I should be able to get through the night without eating. HA!! Not true. I think because I have use food to cope with life for so long and I can't do that now the daily little stresses catch up with me when I'm not looking and that's when I'm sleeping and tired and not very strong to fight the urge. When I do wake up I really feel like I'm hungry. I know I'm not because by the time the morning comes I'm not hungry anymore and I know what I've eaten during the day. I'm not starving myself. I eat plenty of food so this is not hunger. I fight to not eat at this time. If I don't it is going to snowball on me eventually. The problem is not what I need to eat, it is the fact, I need to eat. So I need to get a hold on it now. Because I am putting up such a good fight I am up all night and that is why I think I have started to grind my teeth but this happens now all day long. I am going to try one of those mouth guards for that. BUT I refuse to give in to the eating, Now I'm not saying I am perfect because I too sometimes do give in and end up eating just to make it easier on myself. But all in all, I'm not making it easier. I'm making it harder and gaining control is going to take that much longer. That is why I need to get a hold on this behavior. I don't think there is a cue. I do think I can get control over it though. I really hope I explained this right and hope it helps. Pam On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:50:10 -0500 Waldman writes: > Hi Dawn: > Well, I didn't have this problem before the > surgery, so I am not sure. I talked with my doc > about it, and we decided that I should try having > either 1/2 a sandwich with meat and cheese, or 1/2 > a protein shake just before bed. I tried the > sandwich last night, and it seemed to work. I'm > not sure what's causing it, but before the > surgery, when I would eat quite a bit of food, I > usually ate dinner pretty late, and then snacked > until bedtime, so I always went to bed full. That > could be it too. Or, I'm not eating enough during > the day. Anyway, I will keep playing with it, > until I get it fixed. > Thanks for your thoughts. > Warmly, > > > Dawn wrote: > > > Hey Girlie! First of all, my congrats to you!! > > Told ya so! (nah, nah, nah, nah, nah! ).I > > don't wake up starving, however we have heard of > > people who experienced this prior to surgery, > > and still are trying coping mechanisms to > > overcome their addiction to food, but WON'T give > > in, as it was an old habit that got them into > > trouble and gaining weight in the first > > place. I'm sorry I can't help, but exactly what > > did you eat prior to going to bed? I for one, > > have massive nightmares for some stupid reason > > if I eat too much spaghetti sauce before bed, > > unless I wait it out at least 4-5 hours before > > going to sleep...DON'T ask me why...just > > happens...like everything happens for a > > reason!!! Congrats sweetie!!! Dawn > > > > Re: > > > > welcome > > > > julie > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rayna: > > > > I guess I am the weird > > > > one, then, because most > > > > people I have talked to > > > > say the same as you - > > > > that > > > > they are not hungry. > > > > Well, I am! I certainly > > > > don't eat much, but I do > > > > feel hunger throughout > > > > the day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community email > > > > addresses: > > > > Post message: > > > > OSSG-NewEnglandonelist > > > > > > > > Subscribe: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-subscribeonelist > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-unsubscribeonelist > > > > > > > > List owner: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-owneronelist > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this > > > > page: > > > > > > > > http://www.onelist.com/community/OSSG-NewEngland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community email > > > > addresses: > > > > Post message: > > > > OSSG-NewEnglandonelist > > > > > > > > Subscribe: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-subscribeonelist > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-unsubscribeonelist > > > > > > > > List owner: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-owneronelist > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this > > > > page: > > > > > > > > http://www.onelist.com/community/OSSG-NewEngland > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2001 Report Share Posted January 7, 2001 Thank you for your thoughts Pam. I agree with you about getting control of bad/old behaviors. I have fallen into that trap too. It sounds like you have some good strategies to deal with it, and it sounds like you are on the road to success. In my case, the issue turned out to be a bit simpler. I just wasn't eating enough. When I started keeping a food log, I saw that there were some large gaps and I just added some more calories into the evening meal. That seems to have fixed the problem for me. Again, thanks. Warmly, valiantduffy@... wrote: , I too wake up in the middle of the night and want to eat. Now, I'm not saying this is your problem but it is mine and this is what I did, and still do. I feel this is like playing with fire behavior. If I don't get a hold on it right NOW. It is going to lead to old behavior eating. If I eat a good dinner at a normal time, NOTHING after 8PM. I should be able to get through the night without eating. HA!! Not true. I think because I have use food to cope with life for so long and I can't do that now the daily little stresses catch up with me when I'm not looking and that's when I'm sleeping and tired and not very strong to fight the urge. When I do wake up I really feel like I'm hungry. I know I'm not because by the time the morning comes I'm not hungry anymore and I know what I've eaten during the day. I'm not starving myself. I eat plenty of food so this is not hunger. I fight to not eat at this time. If I don't it is going to snowball on me eventually. The problem is not what I need to eat, it is the fact, I need to eat. So I need to get a hold on it now. Because I am putting up such a good fight I am up all night and that is why I think I have started to grind my teeth but this happens now all day long. I am going to try one of those mouth guards for that. BUT I refuse to give in to the eating, Now I'm not saying I am perfect because I too sometimes do give in and end up eating just to make it easier on myself. But all in all, I'm not making it easier. I'm making it harder and gaining control is going to take that much longer. That is why I need to get a hold on this behavior. I don't think there is a cue. I do think I can get control over it though. I really hope I explained this right and hope it helps. Pam On Sat, 06 Jan 2001 16:50:10 -0500 Waldman writes: > Hi Dawn: > Well, I didn't have this problem before the > surgery, so I am not sure. I talked with my doc > about it, and we decided that I should try having > either 1/2 a sandwich with meat and cheese, or 1/2 > a protein shake just before bed. I tried the > sandwich last night, and it seemed to work. I'm > not sure what's causing it, but before the > surgery, when I would eat quite a bit of food, I > usually ate dinner pretty late, and then snacked > until bedtime, so I always went to bed full. That > could be it too. Or, I'm not eating enough during > the day. Anyway, I will keep playing with it, > until I get it fixed. > Thanks for your thoughts. > Warmly, > > > Dawn wrote: > > > Hey Girlie! First of all, my congrats to you!! > > Told ya so! (nah, nah, nah, nah, nah! ).I > > don't wake up starving, however we have heard of > > people who experienced this prior to surgery, > > and still are trying coping mechanisms to > > overcome their addiction to food, but WON'T give > > in, as it was an old habit that got them into > > trouble and gaining weight in the first > > place. I'm sorry I can't help, but exactly what > > did you eat prior to going to bed? I for one, > > have massive nightmares for some stupid reason > > if I eat too much spaghetti sauce before bed, > > unless I wait it out at least 4-5 hours before > > going to sleep...DON'T ask me why...just > > happens...like everything happens for a > > reason!!! Congrats sweetie!!! Dawn > > > > Re: > > > > welcome > > > > julie > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Rayna: > > > > I guess I am the weird > > > > one, then, because most > > > > people I have talked to > > > > say the same as you - > > > > that > > > > they are not hungry. > > > > Well, I am! I certainly > > > > don't eat much, but I do > > > > feel hunger throughout > > > > the day. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community email > > > > addresses: > > > > Post message: > > > > OSSG-NewEnglandonelist > > > > > > > > Subscribe: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-subscribeonelist > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-unsubscribeonelist > > > > > > > > List owner: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-owneronelist > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this > > > > page: > > > > > > > > http://www.onelist.com/community/OSSG-NewEngland > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Community email > > > > addresses: > > > > Post message: > > > > OSSG-NewEnglandonelist > > > > > > > > Subscribe: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-subscribeonelist > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-unsubscribeonelist > > > > > > > > List owner: > > > > OSSG-NewEngland-owneronelist > > > > > > > > Shortcut URL to this > > > > page: > > > > > > > > http://www.onelist.com/community/OSSG-NewEngland > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 This sounds crazy, but as I was sitting here checking email, I had a knee-jerk response go in the kitchen and eat. I was disappointed to realize that I wasn't hungry and didn't need to eat. It was like, " oh darn, what else can fill this hole? " And what is the hole, anyway? Stress, boredom? Its' funny that all those diet ads in the magazines talk about " Curbing Hunger! " " Foods that Satisfy! " etc. For me its not really hunger at all that's my problem. In fact, I have always thought that if I only ate when I was hungry, I'd be thin. How do I deal with this? Katy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Katy, you are onto a big point of IE - (self) discovering what drives are behind the 'eat' signals that are NOT (body) hunger. Some people journal, others just 'sit' with themselves and quietly ask what is it that I'm feeling (other than hunger). If you think back to what was happening to you just before the 'eat' signal came on you, that could be a clue too. Best wishes - Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > This sounds crazy, but as I was sitting here checking email, I had a knee-jerk response go in the kitchen and eat. I was disappointed to realize that I wasn't hungry and didn't need to eat. It was like, " oh darn, what else can fill this hole? " And what is the hole, anyway? Stress, boredom? Its' funny that all those diet ads in the magazines talk about " Curbing Hunger! " " Foods that Satisfy! " etc. For me its not really hunger at all that's my problem. In fact, I have always thought that if I only ate when I was hungry, I'd be thin. How do I deal with this? > Katy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2009 Report Share Posted March 19, 2009 Katy, You said it perfectly. (1) What are the holes? (2) What else can fill them? (3) How do I deal with this? There are famous sayings about asking the right questions, and I think you're asking all the right questions. And there don't seem to be easy or quick answers to those questions. This week, I am paralyzed by the number of holes in my life, and one let-down after the next, in my attempts to find new ways to fill them. I have Multiple Chemical Sensitivities and acute chronic illness and am mostly housebound and isolated. I am overwhelmed by the number of holes, and the number of let-downs, so that I feel hopeless, to be honest. Best wishes to you, Sue > > This sounds crazy, but as I was sitting here checking email, I had a knee-jerk response go in the kitchen and eat. I was disappointed to realize that I wasn't hungry and didn't need to eat. It was like, " oh darn, what else can fill this hole? " And what is the hole, anyway? Stress, boredom? Its' funny that all those diet ads in the magazines talk about " Curbing Hunger! " " Foods that Satisfy! " etc. For me its not really hunger at all that's my problem. In fact, I have always thought that if I only ate when I was hungry, I'd be thin. How do I deal with this? > Katy > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 it's funny this should come up today. I've had a bit more anxiety than usual about things this lately -- facing a move across the country, maybe some time living without my husband because of work, having to talk to potential employers next year, etc. and also I have really wanted chocolate chip cookies, or something chocolate. Wow, could there be a connection there? believe it or not I probably wouldn't have made that connection much before now. I know that's a craving and not hunger, but I mention it because I haven't actually had a chocolate chip cookie, because when I realized I've actually been hungry I knew it wasn't going to do much to make me less hungry. But I'll probably make some tomorrow. All this to say, I pretty much only eat when I'm hungry, and I'm still not thin. That is frustrating and it's also frustrating to no longer have the thing that once would have made you feel better, at least sort of. thea > > > > This sounds crazy, but as I was sitting here checking email, I had a knee-jerk response go in the kitchen and eat. I was disappointed to realize that I wasn't hungry and didn't need to eat. It was like, " oh darn, what else can fill this hole? " And what is the hole, anyway? Stress, boredom? Its' funny that all those diet ads in the magazines talk about " Curbing Hunger! " " Foods that Satisfy! " etc. For me its not really hunger at all that's my problem. In fact, I have always thought that if I only ate when I was hungry, I'd be thin. How do I deal with this? > > Katy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Thanks to everyone for feedback, I have always been too scared and, well, ok, too technologically impaired to join an on-line group. You all make it easy. I am starting to believe this can help. At this point for me, I'm ok with not having big weight loss. If I can stop the feelings of failure that go along with the completely non-intuitive ways that I have been eating-I will see that as positive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2009 Report Share Posted March 20, 2009 Kim, when I was just getting started with IE, feelings of 'failure' were big stumbling blocks for me. What I learned to do to overcome those were to remind myself of the positive changes I had gotten so far from IE. Those little achievements and successes helped me to switch my focus from 'failure' to a more forward looking success path. I know can't imagine how I ever ate any other way :) Great to have you not only join us here, but expanding your horizons online too - Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > Thanks to everyone for feedback, I have always been too scared and, well, ok, too technologically impaired to join an on-line group. You all make it easy. I am starting to believe this can help. At this point for me, I'm ok with not having big weight loss. If I can stop the feelings of failure that go along with the completely non-intuitive ways that I have been eating-I will see that as positive. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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