Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 Reduces estrogen levels, . I REPEAT am just asking if anybody else has any CLINICAL( AS OPPOSED TO physical/social/moral) observations about the effects on TUMORS of taking up/giving up NICOTINE . Not asking anybody if SMOKING is a good health move......just like I don't need to ask if drinking copious amounts of soda, eating junk food, etc etc, is a good health move..... I know those answers, and I understand also that some people choose to do so, knowing the potential risks, and others are ignorant or choose to remain ignorant, whatever.....it is supposedly a free world. Please try to separate the issues. Last post on digest is your response to mine(haven't got next digest), so don't want to see this thread go into a social/moral/physical debate about smoking... The effects of nicotine ingestion is a separate issue......for eg. nicotine reduces the impact of diabetes type 2(from memory again, so don't trust me!!!) But nobody is saying that diabetics should take up smoking...ok, clear? I hope so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2002 Report Share Posted April 14, 2002 I'm sure you wont get the type of answers you are looking for. My tumors all formed when I was a smoker or before. The took off like wildfire in late teens and I smoked. The tumors I have now are all regrowths of them but supposedly under control. ;-)))))))))))))) Rosemary Lee wrote: > Reduces estrogen levels, . > > > > I REPEAT am just asking if anybody else has any CLINICAL( AS OPPOSED TO > physical/social/moral) observations about the effects on TUMORS of taking > up/giving up NICOTINE . > > Not asking anybody if SMOKING is a good health move......just like I don't > need to ask if drinking copious amounts of soda, eating junk food, etc etc, > is a good health move..... I know those answers, and I understand also that > some people choose to do so, knowing the potential risks, and others are > ignorant or choose to remain ignorant, whatever.....it is supposedly a free > world. > > Please try to separate the issues. Last post on digest is your response to > mine(haven't got next digest), so don't want to see this thread go into a > social/moral/physical debate about smoking... > > The effects of nicotine ingestion is a separate issue......for eg. nicotine > reduces the impact of diabetes type 2(from memory again, so don't trust > me!!!) But nobody is saying that diabetics should take up smoking...ok, > clear? I hope so. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Here's a good question for a poll: How many " 2's " know that one or both parents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? It just seems like a lot of fellow " 2's " have had parents who smoked or still smoke. It could be a coincidence. na (just something I've wondered about) Re: Nicotine effects I'm sure you wont get the type of answers you are looking for. My tumors all formed when I was a smoker or before. The took off like wildfire in late teens and I smoked. The tumors I have now are all regrowths of them but supposedly under control. ;-)))))))))))))) Rosemary Lee wrote: > Reduces estrogen levels, . > > > > I REPEAT am just asking if anybody else has any CLINICAL( AS OPPOSED TO > physical/social/moral) observations about the effects on TUMORS of taking > up/giving up NICOTINE . > > Not asking anybody if SMOKING is a good health move......just like I don't > need to ask if drinking copious amounts of soda, eating junk food, etc etc, > is a good health move..... I know those answers, and I understand also that > some people choose to do so, knowing the potential risks, and others are > ignorant or choose to remain ignorant, whatever.....it is supposedly a free > world. > > Please try to separate the issues. Last post on digest is your response to > mine(haven't got next digest), so don't want to see this thread go into a > social/moral/physical debate about smoking... > > The effects of nicotine ingestion is a separate issue......for eg. nicotine > reduces the impact of diabetes type 2(from memory again, so don't trust > me!!!) But nobody is saying that diabetics should take up smoking...ok, > clear? I hope so. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Of course this would only apply to spontaneous mutations. Re: Nicotine effects I'm sure you wont get the type of answers you are looking for. My tumors all formed when I was a smoker or before. The took off like wildfire in late teens and I smoked. The tumors I have now are all regrowths of them but supposedly under control. ;-)))))))))))))) Rosemary Lee wrote: > Reduces estrogen levels, . > > > > I REPEAT am just asking if anybody else has any CLINICAL( AS OPPOSED TO > physical/social/moral) observations about the effects on TUMORS of taking > up/giving up NICOTINE . > > Not asking anybody if SMOKING is a good health move......just like I don't > need to ask if drinking copious amounts of soda, eating junk food, etc etc, > is a good health move..... I know those answers, and I understand also that > some people choose to do so, knowing the potential risks, and others are > ignorant or choose to remain ignorant, whatever.....it is supposedly a free > world. > > Please try to separate the issues. Last post on digest is your response to > mine(haven't got next digest), so don't want to see this thread go into a > social/moral/physical debate about smoking... > > The effects of nicotine ingestion is a separate issue......for eg. nicotine > reduces the impact of diabetes type 2(from memory again, so don't trust > me!!!) But nobody is saying that diabetics should take up smoking...ok, > clear? I hope so. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 My father did. Carol RE: Nicotine effects Here's a good question for a poll: How many "2's" know that one or both parents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? It just seems like a lot of fellow "2's" have had parents who smoked or still smoke. It could be a coincidence. na (just something I've wondered about) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 It might just be A coincidence BUT!!! I was a smoker when Mike was concaved ... Sooooo HUGS Lois RE: Nicotine effects Here's a good question for a poll: How many "2's" know that one or bothparents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? It justseems like a lot of fellow "2's" have had parents who smoked or still smoke.It could be a coincidence.na (just something I've wondered about)-----Original Message-----From: Henrion Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:45 PMTo: NF2_Crew Subject: Re: Nicotine effectsI'm sure you wont get the type of answers you are looking for. My tumors allformed when I was a smoker or before. The took off like wildfire in lateteensand I smoked. The tumors I have now are all regrowths of them but supposedlyunder control.;-))))))))))))))Rosemary Lee wrote:> Reduces estrogen levels, .>>>> I REPEAT am just asking if anybody else has any CLINICAL( AS OPPOSED TO> physical/social/moral) observations about the effects on TUMORS of taking> up/giving up NICOTINE .>> Not asking anybody if SMOKING is a good health move......just like I don't> need to ask if drinking copious amounts of soda, eating junk food, etcetc,> is a good health move..... I know those answers, and I understand alsothat> some people choose to do so, knowing the potential risks, and others are> ignorant or choose to remain ignorant, whatever.....it is supposedly afree> world.>> Please try to separate the issues. Last post on digest is your response to> mine(haven't got next digest), so don't want to see this thread go into a> social/moral/physical debate about smoking...>> The effects of nicotine ingestion is a separate issue......for eg.nicotine> reduces the impact of diabetes type 2(from memory again, so don't trust> me!!!) But nobody is saying that diabetics should take up smoking...ok,> clear? I hope so.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 when this came back it did not look right I should have said count me as a smoker when Mike was conceived ... sorry sometimes it looks ok till you see it in print huh? hugs Lois RE: Nicotine effects Here's a good question for a poll: How many "2's" know that one or bothparents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? It justseems like a lot of fellow "2's" have had parents who smoked or still smoke.It could be a coincidence.na (just something I've wondered about)-----Original Message-----From: Henrion Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:45 PMTo: NF2_Crew Subject: Re: Nicotine effectsI'm sure you wont get the type of answers you are looking for. My tumors allformed when I was a smoker or before. The took off like wildfire in lateteensand I smoked. The tumors I have now are all regrowths of them but supposedlyunder control.;-))))))))))))))Rosemary Lee wrote:> Reduces estrogen levels, .>>>> I REPEAT am just asking if anybody else has any CLINICAL( AS OPPOSED TO> physical/social/moral) observations about the effects on TUMORS of taking> up/giving up NICOTINE .>> Not asking anybody if SMOKING is a good health move......just like I don't> need to ask if drinking copious amounts of soda, eating junk food, etcetc,> is a good health move..... I know those answers, and I understand alsothat> some people choose to do so, knowing the potential risks, and others are> ignorant or choose to remain ignorant, whatever.....it is supposedly afree> world.>> Please try to separate the issues. Last post on digest is your response to> mine(haven't got next digest), so don't want to see this thread go into a> social/moral/physical debate about smoking...>> The effects of nicotine ingestion is a separate issue......for eg.nicotine> reduces the impact of diabetes type 2(from memory again, so don't trust> me!!!) But nobody is saying that diabetics should take up smoking...ok,> clear? I hope so.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2002 Report Share Posted April 17, 2002 Aye. APF RE: Nicotine effects Here's a good question for a poll: How many "2's" know that one or bothparents smoked around the time you were concieved?? Is this crazy? It justseems like a lot of fellow "2's" have had parents who smoked or still smoke.It could be a coincidence.na (just something I've wondered about)-----Original Message-----From: Henrion Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2002 6:45 PMTo: NF2_Crew Subject: Re: Nicotine effectsI'm sure you wont get the type of answers you are looking for. My tumors allformed when I was a smoker or before. The took off like wildfire in lateteensand I smoked. The tumors I have now are all regrowths of them but supposedlyunder control.;-))))))))))))))Rosemary Lee wrote:> Reduces estrogen levels, .>>>> I REPEAT am just asking if anybody else has any CLINICAL( AS OPPOSED TO> physical/social/moral) observations about the effects on TUMORS of taking> up/giving up NICOTINE .>> Not asking anybody if SMOKING is a good health move......just like I don't> need to ask if drinking copious amounts of soda, eating junk food, etcetc,> is a good health move..... I know those answers, and I understand alsothat> some people choose to do so, knowing the potential risks, and others are> ignorant or choose to remain ignorant, whatever.....it is supposedly afree> world.>> Please try to separate the issues. Last post on digest is your response to> mine(haven't got next digest), so don't want to see this thread go into a> social/moral/physical debate about smoking...>> The effects of nicotine ingestion is a separate issue......for eg.nicotine> reduces the impact of diabetes type 2(from memory again, so don't trust> me!!!) But nobody is saying that diabetics should take up smoking...ok,> clear? I hope so.>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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