Re: 4/20 Prevention.Com Chat with Agatston

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No, there are better dinners out there that have less. SB dinners have something like 1050mg of sodium in it, which is completely rediculous. I wouldn't recommend these to anyone. Carol

Re: 4/20 Prevention.Com Chat with Agatston

My mom won't cook or can't cook. She has a heart condition and has been told to reduce sodium. She is 77 and about 100 lbs. She is not overweight...........never has been and has a ton of energy. However, she eats a frozen dinner every single day. My sister and I get so annoyed because she doesn't even try to follow doctors orders. We have suggested if you don't like to cook can't you at least buy something at the store from the deli where food is already prepared. Out here our stores have everything from Lasagna to salads made every day by cooks in the store. No she rather just buy a repacked frozen dinner because it is cheaper and she can use a coupon!!

Maybe the doctor put is approval on the SB dinners for people like my mom?? Do those foods have the same amount of sodium than regular frozen foods?

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Really, which ones are they? Since my mom isn't planning to change her habits perhaps I need to guide her to the ones that have lower sodium. I know when I was over there last weekend the one she was preparing had 2000 sodium, much higher than the SB version.

Re: 4/20 Prevention.Com Chat with Agatston

My mom won't cook or can't cook. She has a heart condition and has been told to reduce sodium. She is 77 and about 100 lbs. She is not overweight...........never has been and has a ton of energy. However, she eats a frozen dinner every single day. My sister and I get so annoyed because she doesn't even try to follow doctors orders. We have suggested if you don't like to cook can't you at least buy something at the store from the deli where food is already prepared. Out here our stores have everything from Lasagna to salads made every day by cooks in the store. No she rather just buy a repacked frozen dinner because it is cheaper and she can use a coupon!!

Maybe the doctor put is approval on the SB dinners for people like my mom?? Do those foods have the same amount of sodium than regular frozen foods?

Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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> My mom won't cook or can't cook. She has a heart condition

> and has been told to reduce sodium. She is 77 and about 100

> lbs. She is not overweight...........never has been and has

> a ton of energy. However, she eats a frozen dinner every single

> day. My sister and I get so annoyed because she doesn't even try

> to follow doctors orders. We have suggested if you don't like to

> cook can't you at least buy something at the store from the deli

> where food is already prepared. Out here our stores have

> everything from Lasagna to salads made every day by cooks

> in the store. No she rather just buy a repacked frozen dinner

> because it is cheaper and she can use a coupon!!

>

> Maybe the doctor put is approval on the SB dinners for people

> like my mom?? Do those foods have the same amount of sodium

> than regular frozen foods?

Maybe if his goal is to thin-out the heart patients (and I'm not talking

weight loss here).

For those of us who are put on sodium restricted diets there tends to be 2

levels -- under 2,000mg a day and under 4,000mg a day. The former is based

on some measure of common sense -- the US RDA is 2,400mg (Canadian RDA is

2,000mg) so REDUCING sodium would mean at least coming in at or below the

RDA. The latter is what some dietitians recommend and for the life of me I

cannot understand why they would recommend a figure nearly twice the US RDA

for people who need to consume less sodium for health reasons.

Each of the SBD entrees typically contains 1,000mg of sodium. That's half a

day's consumption based on RDAs in a very small meal.

I definitely see a problem there.

Agatston has openly stated he sees no reason to restrict sodium intake

unless the person has something with a measure of sodium sensitivity. How a

cardiologist can put out a " heart healthy diet " (his words) and allow that

much sodium is beyond me.

[Guest guest]

> Really, which ones are they? Since my mom isn't planning

> to change her habits perhaps I need to guide her to the

> ones that have lower sodium. I know when I was over there

> last weekend the one she was preparing had 2000 sodium,

> much higher than the SB version.

Healthy Choice meals typically have 600mg in each.

Have you considered cooking meals for her and putting them in the freezer in

containers? You could make her healthy meals that way, freeze 'em up, then

she could nuke 'em later just like she does with the others.

Just a thought.

[Guest guest]

Now Chuck..

I did love your idea of sending Dr A back to Phase

1 !!! GGG

--- Chuck Kelsey wrote:

> Boy, I'm glad you re-posted that section. I actually

> skipped over that part

> because I just read the header and pre-judged what

> it was about.

>

> Also, money does strange things to a person's

> thought process and speech.

> More money tends to easily confuse a person and then

> they say things that

> make them more money. Does this sound familiar?

> Maybe he needs to go back to

> Phase one marketing to break his cravings for more

> money.

>

> Chuck

>

>

>

> RE: 4/20 Prevention.Com

> Chat with Agatston

>

>

> >

> > My personal favorite was this part:

> >

> >

>

********************************************************************

> > Q: Do you have some advice on how to set a healthy

> weight loss goal?

> >

> > Dr. Agatston: We are much more interested in

> improving blood chemistry and

> > decreasing waistlines than overall weight loss per

> se. If you are

> > overweight

> > and have wonderful blood chemistry and no central

> obesity, then weight

> > loss

> > is less important for your general health and is

> actually more difficult

> > to

> > accomplish. Once blood chemistry is normal and

> waist circumference is

> > down,

> > then further weight loss can only be accomplished

> for the long term with

> > regular exercise.

> >

> > For those who have cravings and do not have

> control over their [food]

> > intake, then by going on the South Beach Diet you

> will lose cravings in

> > Phase 1 and will lose weight slowly in Phase 2

> until you reach a plateau.

> > If, at this point, you desire to lose more weight,

> it is necessary to

> > increase exercise rather than try to further limit

> caloric intake.

> >

>

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> >

> > That was the only really key part of the chat for

> me as it supports what

> > I've said in the past -- this is not a diet for

> weight loss, although we

> > certainly lose weight by eating this way.

> >

> > I was pleased to see he directed pregnant and

> nursing mothers to speak

> > with

> > their physicians before embarking on the SBD.

> I've seen too many women

> > hit

> > the diet path entirely too soon and that's just

> not healthy.

> >

> > I found his whole bit about the Kraft products and

> meal bars particularly

> > disturbing. He's no longer saying they're for

> occasional use and intended

> > as emergency foods -- he's flat out endorsing them

> as SBD compliant. I

> > don't think there's anything on the Kraft line

> that is actually SBD

> > compliant.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb.

> Nor is it low-fat. The

> > South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right

> carbs and the right

> > fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite

> happily without the bad

> > carbs and bad fats.

> >

> > For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The

> South Beach Diet " by

> > Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

> >

[Guest guest]

Maybe he is finding himself over booked nowadays?

--- Noctaire wrote:

> Maybe if his goal is to thin-out the heart patients

> (and I'm not talking

> weight loss here).

D

Presently: 110 lbs and 5 feet 4 inches tall

Current Field Of Study: Medical Treatment for Weight Loss " Bariatrics "

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I do that sometimes with pea soup. But you must remember this is my mother and I too hate to cook. I was raised on TV dinners. But I am trying to make more healthy choices.

RE: 4/20 Prevention.Com Chat with Agatston

> Really, which ones are they? Since my mom isn't planning> to change her habits perhaps I need to guide her to the> ones that have lower sodium. I know when I was over there> last weekend the one she was preparing had 2000 sodium,> much higher than the SB version.Healthy Choice meals typically have 600mg in each.Have you considered cooking meals for her and putting them in the freezer incontainers? You could make her healthy meals that way, freeze 'em up, thenshe could nuke 'em later just like she does with the others. Just a thought.Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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Try the crockpot. I mean I stick in some meat, frozen or fresh veggies, add some water and seasonings, cover and turn it on. I do the same thing with food in the oven, stick it all in a pot and put it in the oven til it's done. Try easy recipes, ones that you throw everything into a pan and cook. I wasn't much of a cook, still not, but I can make pretty healthy meals in easy ways. If it's too complicated, has too many ingredients, takes too long to do, I won't do it. Carol

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I do that sometimes with pea soup. But you must remember this is my mother and I too hate to cook. I was raised on TV dinners. But I am trying to make more healthy choices.

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You know, I have tried crook pots and have never made anything decent in them. Not sure what I do wrong but every recipe I have made in a crookpot tastes blah.

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I do that sometimes with pea soup. But you must remember this is my mother and I too hate to cook. I was raised on TV dinners. But I am trying to make more healthy choices.

Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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