Re: new to group w/ question

June 5, 2004

,

If you just recently tried the rice and soy products, I would

consider going back to the intro diet for a few days to clear out

his gut.

I will say that 1-2 pounds of meat per day compared to 1 1/2

cups vegetables doesn't seem like a very good ratio to me.

That's a lot of protein compared to his vegetable intake.

I would try to mix in more vegetables with the ground meat each

time to try to even out his food intake.

I am a very big person for a woman at 6'1 " and I eat less than 1/2

pound of meat per day.

Try using Fitday.com to determine how many calories he is

getting per day and how many grams of protein/carbs/fat he is

getting. SCD restricts on the types of carbs, not the amount of

carbs and is not intended to be a low carb diet.

The fruits you mentioned, is he tolerating them well? Or do you

see evidence of undigested fruits?

Jody

mom to -5 and -7

SCD 16 months

June 5, 2004

> SOme one said to give yogurt but that scares me because of

> casien. Anyone one the yogurt issue and autism?

My son is 5 years old, started GFCF at 3 1/2 and SCD 6 months later.

I was very concerned about the dairy issue, but became convinced to

try the yogurt after reading Jen Youngs story about how the yogurt

was what actually boosted her son's recovery. I tried it after only

a few weeks of starting SCD.

did very well with it and ate a lot of it - probably too

much. Then, that summer, I started to panic about the whole issue

again. I feel pretty silly about that, actually. The science is

clear - SCD goat yogurt is VERY different than fluid cow's milk.

I started on the yogurt again after several months off of it.

He did remarkably well and continues to do well on it. It finally

firmed up his stools to perfect trophies every time and his

interactions are more and more engaging every day.

He not only answers questions now, he asks them. After being on the

diet for just a few months, 's social issues faded to almost

none. He is friendly, affectionate, and outgoing, but still had

major expressive communication delays. With the addition of the

yogurt, he is blossoming - again. This little guy never ceases to

amaze me, but the yogurt is THE trick. It's the bacteria. It is the

best probiotic around and with the addition of the enzymes and

nutrition of the food itself - I'm so happy to be giving it to him.

Now, here is the deal --- he still, after many weeks on yogurt and

over a year on the diet - he still only eats a couple of tablespoons

a day. I could probably increase it, but I'm just not ready yet.

It's not about the casein - it's about the billions of bacteria.

That's why we encouage people to go so slowly - because of the

probiotic power of the stuff. It will get in there and crowd out the

baddies and if that happens too fast, well... what looks like

regression may actually be massive die-off and not very pretty to

see.

So, slow slow slow, but please please please do try it!!

son - 5yo ASD, SCD 15 months

June 5, 2004

Jody, thanks for reply. I dont notice any undigested food in his

stool. The only think I notice is seeds from the barries he eats. A

few years ago I would see all kinds of things like spinach etc come

through. His stool seem pretty regular and normal thank god. One in a

blue moon the get firm so I give liquid mineral and that solves it.

you said:

" SCD restricts on the types of carbs, not the amount of

carbs and is not intended to be a low carb diet. "

I was told by tristans Dan doctor back when he gave me the SCD diet

book, that children get enough carbs through vetables and fruits

which he eats plenty of fruit and I am currently trying to add more

vegtables as we go. I got to do it slow or else he freaks out over

the change. Whats your take on that? Or anyone else please chime in

here.

thanks

kimberly tristans mom

> ,

>

> If you just recently tried the rice and soy products, I would

> consider going back to the intro diet for a few days to clear out

> his gut.

>

> I will say that 1-2 pounds of meat per day compared to 1 1/2

> cups vegetables doesn't seem like a very good ratio to me.

> That's a lot of protein compared to his vegetable intake.

>

> I would try to mix in more vegetables with the ground meat each

> time to try to even out his food intake.

>

> I am a very big person for a woman at 6'1 " and I eat less than 1/2

> pound of meat per day.

>

> Try using Fitday.com to determine how many calories he is

> getting per day and how many grams of protein/carbs/fat he is

> getting. SCD restricts on the types of carbs, not the amount of

> carbs and is not intended to be a low carb diet.

>

> The fruits you mentioned, is he tolerating them well? Or do you

> see evidence of undigested fruits?

>

> Jody

> mom to -5 and -7

> SCD 16 months

June 5, 2004

,

I stopped giving tristan enzymes but he takes product that has

enzymes and probiotics in it. Green algae call biologic. I always see

regression when I stop green algea. But this last time he had a yeast

overload, I had stopped the extra probiotics I was giving him,then

giving him rice. So maybe I need to start them back up and I will try

the yogurt slowly. I have also used energetic medicine to get the

yeast down. I was looking in the SCD book that I dug back out and

there is a yogurt reciped in there. Should I be using that one?IS

there a yogurt you can get at health food stores?

IS there anyone who is able to let the kids have some or little rice

now and then? He loves it so much. I guess I just have to play around

and see?

>

> > SOme one said to give yogurt but that scares me because of

> > casien. Anyone one the yogurt issue and autism?

>

> My son is 5 years old, started GFCF at 3 1/2 and SCD 6 months

later.

> I was very concerned about the dairy issue, but became convinced to

> try the yogurt after reading Jen Youngs story about how the yogurt

> was what actually boosted her son's recovery. I tried it after only

> a few weeks of starting SCD.

>

> did very well with it and ate a lot of it - probably too

> much. Then, that summer, I started to panic about the whole issue

> again. I feel pretty silly about that, actually. The science is

> clear - SCD goat yogurt is VERY different than fluid cow's milk.

>

> I started on the yogurt again after several months off of

it.

> He did remarkably well and continues to do well on it. It finally

> firmed up his stools to perfect trophies every time and his

> interactions are more and more engaging every day.

>

> He not only answers questions now, he asks them. After being on the

> diet for just a few months, 's social issues faded to almost

> none. He is friendly, affectionate, and outgoing, but still had

> major expressive communication delays. With the addition of the

> yogurt, he is blossoming - again. This little guy never ceases to

> amaze me, but the yogurt is THE trick. It's the bacteria. It is the

> best probiotic around and with the addition of the enzymes and

> nutrition of the food itself - I'm so happy to be giving it to him.

>

> Now, here is the deal --- he still, after many weeks on yogurt and

> over a year on the diet - he still only eats a couple of

tablespoons

> a day. I could probably increase it, but I'm just not ready yet.

> It's not about the casein - it's about the billions of bacteria.

> That's why we encouage people to go so slowly - because of the

> probiotic power of the stuff. It will get in there and crowd out

the

> baddies and if that happens too fast, well... what looks like

> regression may actually be massive die-off and not very pretty to

> see.

>

> So, slow slow slow, but please please please do try it!!

>

> son - 5yo ASD, SCD 15 months

June 5, 2004

Kim,

The green algae supplement would be illegal on SCD.

No, there is no store bought yogurt that can be used on SCD.... we have to make

our own according to the book.

No, you can't use any amount of rice and still be SCD legal. He may " love it "

...... but that does not mean it's good for him. Sometimes it's the very things

that our kids love most that we must realise are almost like addictions.

You mentioned in another post that he drinks a lot of soy milk....... all soy is

illegal on SCD. Homemade nut milks would be the closest alternative.

I would have to say that, so far, it sounds like you haven't really had him on

SCD completely. Did the doctor you go to recommend using rice, soy and green

algae on SCD? If so, he/she is not fully informed about SCD and how it works.

Patti, mom to Katera, SCD 13 months