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In a message dated 3/6/00 2:18:37 PM Pacific Standard Time,

momiam26@... writes:

> feb 29

> I had a baby boy!!!! we thought all along that this was a girl

A leap year baby !!!! Congratulations !!!!!! and what a surprise a boy

instead of a girl !!! I was wishing that with my last one I would have had a

surprise (I wanted a boy but got my fifth girl) Take care of yourself with

that blood pressure get plenty of rest. But I am sure you have been told that

LOL

Rhonda,

Mom to Five girls

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Louise,

WOW! What a story. You had a boy after all, huh? That must have been a

real shock! I am glad things turned out okay after all of the medical issues

you were against. Good for you! and Dakota are very lucky little

guys. I am sure it's a challenge right now. You let us know how we can

support you best. Thanks for letting us in on your leap year surprise!

xo ...STILL waiting

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In a message dated 3/6/00 2:55:13 PM Pacific Standard Time,

mcrocker@... writes:

<< I was actually thinking that Feb. 29th would have been a great day for ME

to have MY baby but it was not to be, I'm still incubating :-) >>

Oh no, no...I thougth I would have mine that day...lol Well, we are still

waiting and over due by 3 days. Wendi is helping me though with homeopathic

ways to get going here. I think she is right...SOON now!

ps Good luck Michele

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Louise-

Congratulations on your new little guy!! Just like everyone else, I

laughed at the " wee girl " on your sig line! I'm so glad that with everything

as scary as it was that you were able to have a healthy, happy baby. Take

care and we hope to hear more soon!

S.

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Louise,

I am so happy for you! Now your life must really feel like a zoo. LOL.

Please get plenty of rest so you can get better faster. Keep us posted.

Amy W.

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Louise,

Congratulations! Here's wishing you normal bp very quickly. It looks like

your sig line hasn't caught up with your reality yet. Glad to hear tandem

nursing is going well. Enjoy that beautiful baby!

Wendi

http://www.lactivist.com

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update

Hi all, just wanted to give a quick update. last time I wrote I was having

problems with my blood pressure. I went to the Dr on the 28th and ended up

being induced on the 29th. I was toxic and the baby was stressed. The

conditions inside were not good either. There was little amniotic fluid, and

the placenta was showing signs of deteroriating (sp?). At 11:48 pm on feb 29

I had a baby boy!!!! we thought all along that this was a girl so we are

shocked and have a ton of girl clothes, girl diapers, and girl material

waiting to be turned into diapers lol. I had to stay in the hospital for 5

days because of my blood pressure, and am still supposed to be on bedrest.

Bp is still running very high :(

Tandem nursing is going rather well. was freaked out the first time he

came up and saw Dakota nursing, but I let him have the other side right away

and he has been happy since. He will pat and rub baby brother while they are

both nursing.

I am soooooooooo in love :)))

Oh yeah, his name is Dakota Lee.

Have to run as he is calling my name lol

Louise

Mommy to

12-87, 7-89,

Connor 10-91, 4-93,

2-18-99, and wee little girl EDD 3-24-2000

Oh what a zoo :)

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In a message dated 03/06/2000 10:30:54 PM Eastern Standard Time,

oestreicher@... writes:

<< Glad to hear tandem nursing is working well, you

go mamma! <g> >>

When I first read this post .. I read " go mammal " !!! LOL LOL LOL Well, you

are a mammal and gave live birth and are now lactating. So, you " GO MAMMAL! "

and congratulations Louise on your " wee little girl --- <correction> boy! "

There certainly is something special to be said about a mother and her son!

:) Best wishes and " Welcome to the world Dakota Lee!!

<3 The House

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Louise,

Congratulations on the birth of your son! I hope you are feeling better

and that any health concerns are under control soon. Just curious....is

your son's name the same name you had picked out for a girl? Sounds

like it could be used for either a boy or girl - beautiful name. What

made you think you were having a girl? I too had a good laugh at your

sig line! Time to change that lol. Good luck to you and your family.

Joan

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Fawn, I know exactly what you are going through, I went through the same

exact thing, I had 3 miscarriages in a row, one December 6th 1998, one

January 16th 1999, and then June 3rd 1999. I finaly gave up, and was gonna

wait for awhile until I had some testing with a specialist before trying

again, but accidentily got pregnant immediatly after the last miscarriage.

all I had to do was take progesterone, and a baby asprin every day to keep

that pregnancy. I had the same feelings as you, i was mad at God too, I

just started praying like crazy, and he answered them, he will for you too,

just be patient I know its hard.

I will keep ypu in my thoughts and prayers

Beckie

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> From: Fawnf12@...

> To: breastfeedingonelist

> Subject: update

> Date: Saturday, March 11, 2000 3:08 AM

>

> From: Fawnf12@...

>

> Hello everyone. I'm so very sad to have to write to say that the

bloodwork

> did not show what we'd hoped for. My hcg level dropped from 36,747 on

Tue.

> to around 30,000 Fri. As most of us know, that means a miscarriage will

> occur. (my 2nd since Dec 30th for those new ones who may not know) I'd

> really tried to prepare myself for this these last few days but it's just

> impossible to do that. Of course I'm very sad, but finding mostly

feelings

> of severe anger right now. I didn't have these feelings the last time so

it

> apparently is going to have a different affect on me. I'm just so angry

that

> so many people are running around out there having little babies they

don't

> even want or leaving them in garbage cans to die and we desperately want

> another and can't seem to achieve it. I hate to say this, as I'm a

Christian

> but I'm even finding myself quite angry at God. I'm a good mom and I

deserve

> to have more babies. How can He love me and put me through this again?

I

> could handle it the first time thinking 'it just wasn't right' or 'I had

> something to learn from it' but now I just cannot find any sense in it.

I

> really am not looking for anyone to answer my questions, I know you

can't.

> I " m just venting and I " m sorry.

> Please just keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

> Fawn

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Anita,

Im sorry to hear about your slow progress and the yuckytube.

OKmySPACEBARisBROKENsoIwillTYPElikeTHIS

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On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:47:18 -0000 robert_armes@... writes:

> Hi guys,

> Haven't posted in awhile though I've communicated with several of

> you

> privately. I've been very down. Here is what's been going on with

> me:

> On Wed of last week I went for my first post-op appt. - the goal of

> this appt was to pull my drainage tube and advance me to the next

> stage of the diet. Unfortunately, the color of the liquid that was

> and is draining into my tube is consistent with a leak in my pouch.

> So, off I was sent to get an upper GI - absolutely disgusting gag-me

>

> stuff I had to drink. Well, the upper GI showed no leak. To be

> cautious they decided to leave the drainage tube as is and I was not

>

> allowed to move to the next stage of the diet meaning I'm still on

> liquids going kind of nuts. I had been planning to return to work

> part-time this coming Monday but that's not going to happen. The

> area

> where the tube enters my body is very irritated and weeping clear

> smelly liquid. Needless to say I don't feel much like being around

> others. I've been depressed, watching way too much tv, and feeling

> very food deprived. I'm not driving yet and they tell me there is a

> good chance they won't pull the tube this Wed. either. They are

> waiting for the leak to heal itself. I'll also probably have to have

>

> another upper GI when I go in on Wed. - yuck. I don't know what I'm

> going to do about work - maybe work from home the week after

> next. Everyday that I see the cloudy output I feel upset. The good

> news is that I'm not putting out very much stuff on a daily basis -

> 10-20 cc's. It's just that I don't get the mystery of how I can not

> have a leak but still be putting out cloudy stuff - it's very

> puzzling. I'm scared they'll have to operate again and I don't think

>

> I could stand that. So that's where I'm at right now. Oh ya and to

> further reck my mood, yesterday I received a gift basket of sweets

> from work - I had complained they hadn't sent me anything and then

> pow - I should have kept my mouth shut - I guess this is one of the

> drawbacks of not telling work the type of surgery you're having. In

> any case, sorry to be such a downer but I'm upset and I feel like I

> can't get traction. Anyway, that's it for now. Hope you all are

> well.

>

> Anita

>

>

>

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Anita,

I'm sorry you're going through a rough time right now sweetie, but I'm

confident the Dr. is only taking precautionary measures.

I had an abscess following a simple appendectomy a while back, and was

similar to your experience. Trust me, as much as it may seem sucky now, you

are SO MUCH better off getting that junk outside of your body, rather than

have it inside. When they discovered my abscess, it was on an emergency

basis after me fighting with my Dr. saying how crappy I felt. He was

determined it was just the " normal " process in healing...WRONG! I almost

died from this abscess, because the stuff was inside, not out. Once they

discovered the abscess (different surgeon), they predict it was about the

size of a volleyball...if that would have let go in my system, I wouldn't

have lived, instead, they made a SMALL incision (I & D), and out it

came....eventually tapering off to a lil wound covered by a band aid.

The rest is history sweetie, but trust me, GET IT OUT OF YA!

Hang in there!!

Dawn HUGS!!!

Update

Hi guys,

Haven't posted in awhile though I've communicated with several of you

privately. I've been very down. Here is what's been going on with me:

On Wed of last week I went for my first post-op appt. - the goal of

this appt was to pull my drainage tube and advance me to the next

stage of the diet. Unfortunately, the color of the liquid that was

and is draining into my tube is consistent with a leak in my pouch.

So, off I was sent to get an upper GI - absolutely disgusting gag-me

stuff I had to drink. Well, the upper GI showed no leak. To be

cautious they decided to leave the drainage tube as is and I was not

allowed to move to the next stage of the diet meaning I'm still on

liquids going kind of nuts. I had been planning to return to work

part-time this coming Monday but that's not going to happen. The area

where the tube enters my body is very irritated and weeping clear

smelly liquid. Needless to say I don't feel much like being around

others. I've been depressed, watching way too much tv, and feeling

very food deprived. I'm not driving yet and they tell me there is a

good chance they won't pull the tube this Wed. either. They are

waiting for the leak to heal itself. I'll also probably have to have

another upper GI when I go in on Wed. - yuck. I don't know what I'm

going to do about work - maybe work from home the week after

next. Everyday that I see the cloudy output I feel upset. The good

news is that I'm not putting out very much stuff on a daily basis -

10-20 cc's. It's just that I don't get the mystery of how I can not

have a leak but still be putting out cloudy stuff - it's very

puzzling. I'm scared they'll have to operate again and I don't think

I could stand that. So that's where I'm at right now. Oh ya and to

further reck my mood, yesterday I received a gift basket of sweets

from work - I had complained they hadn't sent me anything and then

pow - I should have kept my mouth shut - I guess this is one of the

drawbacks of not telling work the type of surgery you're having. In

any case, sorry to be such a downer but I'm upset and I feel like I

can't get traction. Anyway, that's it for now. Hope you all are well.

Anita

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Anita,

As I was trying to say. Im sorry to hear about the yucky tube. Im sure

these things just need some time.

And I was also trying to say that I have a friend who is very underweight

and he would love the sweets to fatten him up.

Cheer up and dont forget we are here.

Beth

On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 19:37:34 -0500 Beth Peluso

writes:

> Anita,

> Im sorry to hear about your slow progress and the yuckytube.

>

> OKmySPACEBARisBROKENsoIwillTYPElikeTHIS

>

IhaveAfriedTHATisREALLYuderWEIGHTadISimTHEhospitalRIGHTmow.SHITmowMYmISaM

> lololololWELLatLEASTiCAM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> On Sat, 17 Mar 2001 15:47:18 -0000 robert_armes@... writes:

> > Hi guys,

> > Haven't posted in awhile though I've communicated with several of

> > you

> > privately. I've been very down. Here is what's been going on with

> > me:

> > On Wed of last week I went for my first post-op appt. - the goal

> of

> > this appt was to pull my drainage tube and advance me to the next

> > stage of the diet. Unfortunately, the color of the liquid that was

>

> > and is draining into my tube is consistent with a leak in my

> pouch.

> > So, off I was sent to get an upper GI - absolutely disgusting

> gag-me

> >

> > stuff I had to drink. Well, the upper GI showed no leak. To be

> > cautious they decided to leave the drainage tube as is and I was

> not

> >

> > allowed to move to the next stage of the diet meaning I'm still on

>

> > liquids going kind of nuts. I had been planning to return to work

> > part-time this coming Monday but that's not going to happen. The

> > area

> > where the tube enters my body is very irritated and weeping clear

> > smelly liquid. Needless to say I don't feel much like being around

>

> > others. I've been depressed, watching way too much tv, and feeling

>

> > very food deprived. I'm not driving yet and they tell me there is

> a

> > good chance they won't pull the tube this Wed. either. They are

> > waiting for the leak to heal itself. I'll also probably have to

> have

> >

> > another upper GI when I go in on Wed. - yuck. I don't know what

> I'm

> > going to do about work - maybe work from home the week after

> > next. Everyday that I see the cloudy output I feel upset. The good

>

> > news is that I'm not putting out very much stuff on a daily basis

> -

> > 10-20 cc's. It's just that I don't get the mystery of how I can

> not

> > have a leak but still be putting out cloudy stuff - it's very

> > puzzling. I'm scared they'll have to operate again and I don't

> think

> >

> > I could stand that. So that's where I'm at right now. Oh ya and to

>

> > further reck my mood, yesterday I received a gift basket of sweets

>

> > from work - I had complained they hadn't sent me anything and then

>

> > pow - I should have kept my mouth shut - I guess this is one of

> the

> > drawbacks of not telling work the type of surgery you're having.

> In

> > any case, sorry to be such a downer but I'm upset and I feel like

> I

> > can't get traction. Anyway, that's it for now. Hope you all are

> > well.

> >

> > Anita

> >

> >

> >

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DEAR ANITA

I HOPE YOU HAVE A WONDERFUL DAY AND I WILL BE THINKING OF YOU. JUST THANK GOD THAT YOU ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE. YOU WILL HEEL AND FEEL GOOD JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. I FOUND THAT EACH DAY WAS BETTER THAN THE DAY BEFORE FOR ME. IT TOOK ME 8 WEEKS TO FEEL MYSELF AND I DID NOT HAVE ANY COMPLICATIONS.

RAYNA

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Anita

I'm sorry to hear things are moving a bit slow at the moment for you.

Hang inthere .. this too shall pass. I hope things clear up quickly

so that you can have that tube removed ... must be hard to

feel " normal " to some extent with that appendage but hang in there,

its early days yet and I believe things will get better for you.

Wishing you all the best .. take the time for yourself, relax have

others help you out to improve how you feel ..

Hugs

Lyssa

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Thanks guys for your words of comfort. I posted to the larger OSSG

because I know that most of you guys have not had lap or a drain tube

so I thought I'd see if anyone had a similar experience to me in the

larger group. I got a number of responses and one in particular was

very helpful. I get so frustrated because I don't believe the

physician's asst at the doctor's office has given me completely

accurate info. She told me for example that the liquid in my tube

should return to a cherry juice color if it were normal - that's not

accurate. Also, I asked her to analyze the liquid in my tube and she

said it wasn't necessary. As it turns out though, that is one sure

fire way for them to determine if I have a leak or not. When I go

back on Wed. I'm going to be insistent that they take a culture of

that fluid. Going through that upper GI is the pits and it's possible

that it won't even show the leak (as it didn't on the one I had last

Wed.). If they culture the liquid they can see if I have a leak and

or an infection of some kind. Much more accurate and much easier for

me. Also I've got to believe that looking at fluid under the

microscope is far less expensive than an upper GI. Sometimes I get so

annoyed with the medical establishment. I hope I'll be tough enough

to stand my ground on Wed. Thanks again for listening.

Anita

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Hello Ladies - I have been a member of this board for a year now,

although have been just lurking lately, as I am just trying to cope

and not be so obsessed about ttc.

A quick update - I had my septum resescted in Feb 03, and did not get

AF after that. I took progesterone a bunch of times to try to jump-

start my cycle, went on the pill for a month, tried Clomid, and

nothing worked. In early Nov my RE said that the next step was

INJ/IUI or IVF and I freaked out and decided that I wasn't ready for

that, and decided to take the rest of the year off. Well, AF arrived

this month, on its own, for the first time since Jan 03, almost a

year ago. I was so exctied! I think that I actually did ovulate, as

I was tracking my temps, and they did rise for what would suggest a

nice 14-day luteral phase, and then AF arrived!

So, I am cautiously, cautiously hopeful that maybe after all this

time my body will decide to cooperate. We'll see...I won't hold my

breath but I will probably take a little more time and see what

happens before going back to the RE in 2004.

I'm sorry that I haven't been as active recently, but I wouldn't have

made it through this year without this board, and all the support and

advice you have provided.

32, 1 m/c, SU resected

ttc #1

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Cori, I'm happy you're back at work. Are they okay with your job for now?

As to foods, even within the same office I get different answers. The

weight clinic gave me the original list which shows 4th week, chicken. I've

been eating it with no problem, but then this week when I saw the doctor,

she said no chicken or turkey yet. I think you just have to try things and

go at your own pace. I feel so bad you're having such a hard time with the

food. What about other sources of protein, like refried beans and cheese.

I started with that the 2nd week and it's been very comfortable. Lots of

beans have good protein and maybe for you this will help transition you into

the more solid foods. Peanut butter too worked for me.

Hate to tell you, but I've tasted many protein drinks in the past. All were

terrible. Then I went on a liquid protein diet through a doctor for 8-1/2

months. It was absolutely wonderful, but also very expensive. I've been

told they have even better ones now. I was told to supplement my food with

protein bars now, and so far they've been yucky, but I eat tiny pieces and

get through them. I have some new ones that were recommended but haven't

tried them yet.

FORTY-FIVE POUNDS GONE!!!! Yippee for you! Just take it slow with food,

and get yourself a protein counter book so you can decide on the best

sources of protein for you. With the milk problems, do I assume you also

have problems with cottage cheese. It's fairly high and easy to eat. Maybe

taking it a little slower in your transition from liquids to solids will

keep you from back-tracking again.

BTW, I had surgery the day after you. Keep us posted to how you're doing,

in between a very demanding job!

Joan

LAP RNY 11/18/03

Dr. Higa, Fresno, CA

282pre-op/275surg/239/140

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hi cori, have u tried lite soy milk? there are decent prot shakes

out there, keep trying. try wlssuccess.com & vitalady for samples.

how about tuna?

wtg on the 45 lbs!

keep up the great work & hats off for your work as a firefighter &

paramedic! u go!

lori h.

> As to eatting... I dont know.... I have been moved back to

liquids 3x

> since my surgery. Everytime i try meats

(chicken,burger,ham,turkey) it doesnt

> matter i get sick.... Spicy foods forget, Milk has become a MAJOR

problem.....

> In the hospital i drank all types No trouble or dumping... Now

Soon as i

> swallow I get sudden chest pain and the runs..... I tried lactose

free milk.. No

> better... Yet I can eat pudding with no problem and add a little

to cream of

> wheat with no problem... ANY SUGGESTIONS?????? Pasta is another

downfall... I

> know some will say not suppose to be eatting that but others on

the group who

> know with my job I kinda have to break the pouch rules a bit when

i am

> working.

> I guess will just take alot longer for me to get meats

down... Right

> now I am happy with soups and the other liquids.... But will

hopefully

> eventually be eatting meats for more protien so i can stop these

god awlful protien

> drinks......

> Cori

> 11-17-03

> open RNY

> 305/260/145

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