Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Hi Debora, I don't know what Remicade is so I can't tell you what you should take with it. Can you check with your doctor to find out if you can take magnesium sulfate (that's epsom salts)? If you can, you can get the empty gel capsules and fill them with magnesium sulfate (I gave 12 size 0 caps to my 58 # son and it softened his hard stools). The only catch to this is that you probably have to get rid of the stuff that is in the rectum first and you probably need to do the glycerin suppository again or the enema. Could you do the enema in the bathtub while you are soaking....sorry, don't mean to be gross, but you've got to do what you've got to do. I hope you can find something that works for you. The other thing I wanted to mention was to try beet juice or beet puree with added Tropicana OJ at every meal to help with the constipation. We tried the boiled down prune juice with Tropicana OJ and it didn't help our son very much but the beet puree gave a bit more relief. He is still constipated but we don't use epsom salts (magnesium sulfate) unless he gets to the same level of constipation that you are currently facing at this time. Oh, I wanted to add, any kind and any form of nuts was and is a huge constipator for our son. Hope this helps and take care, Becky in Chesapeake, VA with 10 yr old son with ASD on SCD 18+ weeks > I was wondering if anyone with experience with their child's > constipation issues could help me. For the last 3 times, after having > an infusion of a CD medication (Remicade), after about a week, I get > constipated. (I usually tend towards the opposite.) I keep meaning to go > back to the intro and drink prune juice as a preventative, but usually I > am feeling so good, that I eat what I've been eating, with a little raw > fruit here and there, and then end up in the situation I'm in. What do > people do when it gets so hard and impacted down towards the bottom? > I've been drinking the prune combo for the last 2 days, and today I'm > going back on the intro. Last night, I tried putting a warm water enema > in, but didn't get in very much, and it pretty much just absorbed in the > night. Then I tried a little more, and a glycerin sapository, and > basically, they just both came out again. I tried soaking in a hot bath, > and that got a little out, but there still feels like it's all just at > the bottom, and I can't get it out. Should I just keep working with the > above protocol, or will the prune juice just kick in? I'm afraid of > eating more to add to the volume. I feel good other than this; it is > very frusterating. Help! > > Debora > SCD 9months > sulfasalazine, Remicade Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2004 Report Share Posted June 8, 2004 Hi Deborah, : > I was wondering if anyone with experience with their child's > constipation issues could help me. For the last 3 times, after having > an infusion of a CD medication (Remicade), after about a week, I get > constipated. (I usually tend towards the opposite.) I keep meaning to go > back to the intro and drink prune juice as a preventative, but usually I > am feeling so good, that I eat what I've been eating, with a little raw > fruit here and there, and then end up in the situation I'm in. You might already know this but it bears repeating (at least for the newbies) Constipation is just the other side of bowel disease and raw vegetables will only compound it. If you can't digest it can and usually does make either diarrhea or constipation worse. Please see http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/constipatio n_continued.htm http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/knowledge_base/kb/constipatio n.htm What do > people do when it gets so hard and impacted down towards the bottom? > I've been drinking the prune combo for the last 2 days, and today I'm > going back on the intro. Last night, I tried putting a warm water enema > in, but didn't get in very much, and it pretty much just absorbed in the > night. Then I tried a little more, and a glycerin sapository, and > basically, they just both came out again. I tried soaking in a hot bath, > and that got a little out, but there still feels like it's all just at > the bottom, and I can't get it out. Should I just keep working with the > above protocol, Making sure all food is well cooked and peeled will help, lots of fluids and the Oj and prune *nectar* combo. Some have had success with beet puree or bet juice. When I was impacted the ER doctor gave me fleet enemas to clear everything out. (It actually took two enemas) You can buy these over the counter here. But it doesn't sound as if you are that far along - I was having cramps (reminiscint of early labour pains) Sheila 40 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC mom of SCD 25 mos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 > > Ever since I started SBD, I keep being constipated. I can't stand how > this feels, like I am bloated and ready to burst. > > I don't get it. I have 5.5 cups of veggies a day, a serving of fruit, > a serving of whole grains, a serving of nuts some days and a serving > of beans some days, plus I'm taking Metamucil. I should be having a > long-term relationship with my bathroom with all the fiber in me. But, > instead, I am constipated. > > I don't normally get constipated when I'm not on SBD. I know someone > whose mom and dad did SBD, but they said it made them too constipated. > > Has anyone else here had this problem? I am baffled. Other than taking > stool softeners, I really don't know what to do about it, either. > > ann ann, I think I have a tendency toward constipation for whatever reason, so now I load up on fiber - about as much as you're taking, I'd say. What I did was to go to a health food place and got a total cleanse thing which took a few weeks but cleans out all the toxins that have built up. When that process was finished I made sure I continued with a lot of fiber and I've been fine since. I know the feeling you're experiencing and it's not pleasant. I'd suggest trying the cleanse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Yep, I know the feeling. Chuck constipation > > > Ever since I started SBD, I keep being constipated. I can't stand how > this feels, like I am bloated and ready to burst. > > I don't get it. I have 5.5 cups of veggies a day, a serving of fruit, > a serving of whole grains, a serving of nuts some days and a serving > of beans some days, plus I'm taking Metamucil. I should be having a > long-term relationship with my bathroom with all the fiber in me. But, > instead, I am constipated. > > I don't normally get constipated when I'm not on SBD. I know someone > whose mom and dad did SBD, but they said it made them too constipated. > > Has anyone else here had this problem? I am baffled. Other than taking > stool softeners, I really don't know what to do about it, either. > > ann > > > > > > > Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The > South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right > fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad > carbs and bad fats. > > For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach Diet " by > Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I just had a colonoscopy in Feb and took that horrible bowel prep 4 X in one day. I went steadily for 16 hours. Wouldn't that cleanse me enough? ann > > ann > > ann, I think I have a tendency toward constipation for whatever > reason, so now I load up on fiber - about as much as you're taking, > I'd say. What I did was to go to a health food place and got a > total cleanse thing which took a few weeks but cleans out all the > toxins that have built up. When that process was finished I made > sure I continued with a lot of fiber and I've been fine since. > I know the feeling you're experiencing and it's not pleasant. I'd > suggest trying the cleanse. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Hi, I'm still on week 3, so that's why I'm only up to one serving of fruit so far. Which fruits have a laxative effect? If I lower my protein, I honestly don't know what to eat instead. Could you post a few days worth of all your meals/snacks so I could see what you are eating in place of protein? ann < > I have two suggestions here.. The first one being to lower your Protein intake.. I can tell you if I ate the 30 gms of protein that once suggested I eat I would not be functioning.. > > Secondly do take two stool softeners per day until you pull you out of this.. Lay off the Metamucil and only intake fiber from natural sources.. > > Eat lots of laxative effect fruits and more than one a day... try 2 or 3.. It really bothers me when I hear this.. You have no idea how much it bothers me.. > > Sadly > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 No, I don't like it. Luckily it goes away most of the time, but returns periodically. This time of year I tend to eat apples and oranges, some bananas. When they are in season, peaches. Probably in a rut with those. Prior to SBD I ate almost no fruit and didn't have the problem. Same with vegetables - they were once in a while, now I eat a lot more (but probably still not enough). Go figure. Chuck Re: constipation You like the feeling? If not than change your dietary balance.. JMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 That's how it is with me, too, Chuck. I hardly ate any fruit before and I ate much less veggies, yet I didn't have this problem. Ever since SBD, with the added veggies and fruit, now I have the problem. I eat less protein now than before. Makes no sense. ann >< > No, I don't like it. Luckily it goes away most of the time, but returns > periodically. > > This time of year I tend to eat apples and oranges, some bananas. When they > are in season, peaches. Probably in a rut with those. Prior to SBD I ate > almost no fruit and didn't have the problem. Same with vegetables - they > were once in a while, now I eat a lot more (but probably still not enough). > Go figure. > > Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 > > I just had a colonoscopy in Feb and took that horrible bowel prep 4 X > in one day. I went steadily for 16 hours. Wouldn't that cleanse me > enough? > > ann > > Yes, I would certainly think it would. Sorry I can't be of more help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I know what constipation is, LOL, that is why we are having this discussion. All cheese, even cottage cheese? Or just hard cheeses? ann < > Constipation is when you have to go but " it " won't come out. There is a harmless procedure that is very quick. Dip a Q-tip into a bottle of mineral oil (this can be found in any drug store). I (Older folks can probably go the entire length of the Q-tip just fine and may want to do this two or three times.) This allows the oil to soften the stool. Older folks should lie down and wait as long as possible. Older kids will probably prefer to do this themselves. > > > Lose the cheese and the peanut butter for now as well.. and drink lots of water.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Hi, Okay, I put prunes on my shopping list for next weekend. I like them in oat bran cereal, but haven't had that in quite a while. So, I will start that. And will get more apples. I also put some sugar- free dried apples on the list, too, to have in hot cereal. Dates are okay to have? I thought I saw either in the good carb book or the regular book that they are too high on the glycemic index. Oh my goodness, I couldn't eat one more bite of vegetables, I eat so many as it is. I think I need a second refrigerator, LOL. ann > > I have two suggestions here.. The first one being to lower your > Protein intake.. I can tell you if I ate the 30 gms of protein that > once suggested I eat I would not be functioning.. > > > > Secondly do take two stool softeners per day until you pull you > out of this.. Lay off the Metamucil and only intake fiber from > natural sources.. > > > > Eat lots of laxative effect fruits and more than one a day... try > 2 or 3.. It really bothers me when I hear this.. You have no idea > how much it bothers me.. > > > > Sadly > > > > > > > > > Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low- fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. > > For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 > > > > --------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 PS, I will probably try this tomorrow or late tonight. I am taking my daughter to a concert this evening for her 13th birthday, and we have backstage passes for her to meet the bands. I could just imagine it kicking in right when we meet the bands if I do it today, ROFL. ann < > Constipation is when you have to go but " it " won't come out. There is a harmless procedure that is very quick. Dip a Q-tip into a bottle of mineral oil (this can be found in any drug store). I (Older folks can probably go the entire length of the Q-tip just fine and may want to do this two or three times.) This allows the oil to soften the stool. Older folks should lie down and wait as long as possible. Older kids will probably prefer to do this themselves. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Hi Chuck... Bananas I believe can be constipating.. Did you eat this much cheese before SB and do you know how many grams of protein you were injesting before? I have very little doubt you did not have a problem before... most people don't.. Chuck Kelsey wrote: No, I don't like it. Luckily it goes away most of the time, but returns periodically.This time of year I tend to eat apples and oranges, some bananas. When they are in season, peaches. Probably in a rut with those. Prior to SBD I ate almost no fruit and didn't have the problem. Same with vegetables - they were once in a while, now I eat a lot more (but probably still not enough). Go figure.Chuck Re: constipationYou like the feeling? If not than change your dietary balance.. JMHOReminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 Presently 5 feet 4 inches tall and 114 Lbs ..·´¨¨)) -:¦:-¸.·´ .·´¨¨))((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:--:¦:- ((¸¸.·´ -:¦:- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 , Do you mean three 2-4 oz servings of protein a day? Since legumes are a protein source, you mean just lower my animal protein, right? Mainly cut/lower my cheeses and meats? But, yogurt is okay? And how many servings of beans should I have a day? They count toward grams of protein on Fitday, so my protein percentage/amount will still look high from the beans. I wish I knew how to make beans so that they didn't taste awful. I don't mind frozen limas with margarine. And lentils, if cooked right, are good. And other beans are okay in soups and stews. But, to heat them up out of a can, yuk. Guess I need to make more soups and stews with beans, plus get more limas, plus make more lentils. ann < > I would like to see you up your bean intake as well as you veggies and your apples.. Feast on apples, beans and vegetables and keep your protein to two four ounce servings a day until you are better.. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 > > , > > Do you mean three 2-4 oz servings of protein a day? Since legumes are > a protein source, you mean just lower my animal protein, right? Mainly > cut/lower my cheeses and meats? But, yogurt is okay? > > And how many servings of beans should I have a day? They count toward > grams of protein on Fitday, so my protein percentage/amount will still > look high from the beans. > > I wish I knew how to make beans so that they didn't taste awful. I > don't mind frozen limas with margarine. And lentils, if cooked right, > are good. And other beans are okay in soups and stews. But, to heat > them up out of a can, yuk. Guess I need to make more soups and stews > with beans, plus get more limas, plus make more lentils. > > ann > > ann, how about making some chili and really loading up the beans instead of meat. *I love chili* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I was the same way. The doctor told me that it was cuz I had all that grease and stuff before and that's what kept me going to the bathroom. Now that I don't have all that garbage, I get constipated too. But I've found if I eat an apple in the morning I go a little bit later. It seems to have helped a ton. I don't think specially in phase one you should lower your protein. I think it's important. Doctor told me did fine with what I had and gave me a list of things to help the constipation, but only the apples seem to help for whatever reason. I do take stool softeners and sometimes suppositories if I need them, not that they are pleasant but only take about 20 minutes and I'm all better. Carol Re: constipation That's how it is with me, too, Chuck. I hardly ate any fruit before and I ate much less veggies, yet I didn't have this problem. Ever since SBD, with the added veggies and fruit, now I have the problem. I eat less protein now than before. Makes no sense.ann Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.7.4 - Release Date: 03/18/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Oh, dear, ann!! This is NOT good! You didn't mention anything about water. Water is a natural laxative. Exercise really helps with elimination too. As far as fruit goes, how about prunes that are flavored with essential oils, like orange, lemon and lime. Those are good. Be sure you drink plenty of water when you eat the dried fruit. I hope you get to feeling back to normal. Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 , I'm allergic to soy. I have an asthma attack if I eat it, even worse than wheat. ann < > ann- > soybeans are good and I eat a bowl of them just for a snack. You only need to boil them about five minutes and then take each pod and pop out the beans into your mouth. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Hi, I drink probably a gallon of water a day, maybe more. I can't get much exercise as I'm a wheelchair user. But, I'm doing range of motion and stretches in the chair and leg lifts in the bed. Never heard of flavored prunes, LOL. Sounds kind of funny. I like them plain okay enough. I will get them on the next shopping order. amm > Oh, dear, ann!! This is NOT good! You didn't mention anything about water. Water is a natural laxative. Exercise really helps with elimination too. As far as fruit goes, how about prunes that are flavored with essential oils, like orange, lemon and lime. Those are good. Be sure you drink plenty of water when you eat the dried fruit. > > I hope you get to feeling back to normal. > Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Soak in a tub? No, can't get in and out of a tub due to disability. ann < > I wish I could eat beans but unfortunately for me I can't even stand the smell of them.. Did you try that soak in a tub full of very warm (not burning hot) water mixed with ½ cut of Epsom Salts? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 Okay, I plan on making that bean and chicken chili. I just had Indian Lentil Stew last night, which I really liked. You'd think it would have helped! We leave in a half hour and I still feel like I'm stuffed to the gills. ann > > > ann, how about making some chili and really loading up the beans > instead of meat. *I love chili* > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 You'd think between the salad dressing and the olive oil in cooking, I'd be " lubed up " enough, but I guess that could be it. Don't have those oily potato chips running through me anymore, LOL. ann < > I was the same way. The doctor told me that it was cuz I had all that grease and stuff before and that's what kept me going to the bathroom. Now that I don't have all that garbage, I get constipated too. But I've found if I eat an apple in the morning I go a little bit later. It seems to have helped a ton. I don't think specially in phase one you should lower your protein. I think it's important. Doctor told me did fine with what I had and gave me a list of things to help the constipation, but only the apples seem to help for whatever reason. I do take stool softeners and sometimes suppositories if I need them, not that they are pleasant but only take about 20 minutes and I'm all better. Carol> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I might as well give it a try and see what happens. It can't get any worse, LOL! What do you find helps you, Carol? ann < > I'd be careful of beans. I mean everyone has to find out what is best for their own system. Just cuz one thing works for someone doesn't mean it's good for someone else. I cannot eat beans very often. They don't help me go, they actually make me very much more constipated and VERY gassy. They make me completely miserable. So yes, take suggestions, but be careful with them and find out slowly what works for your own system. Carol> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I think the main problem is the lack of fruit in our diet during phase 1. Junk food is great from keeping us regular but not a healthy solution. Re: constipation You'd think between the salad dressing and the olive oil in cooking, I'd be "lubed up" enough, but I guess that could be it. Don't have those oily potato chips running through me anymore, LOL.ann<> I was the same way. The doctor told me that it was cuz I had all that grease and stuff before and that's what kept me going to the bathroom. Now that I don't have all that garbage, I get constipated too. But I've found if I eat an apple in the morning I go a little bit later. It seems to have helped a ton. I don't think specially in phase one you should lower your protein. I think it's important. Doctor told me did fine with what I had and gave me a list of things to help the constipation, but only the apples seem to help for whatever reason. I do take stool softeners and sometimes suppositories if I need them, not that they are pleasant but only take about 20 minutes and I'm all better. Carol>Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 4/1/2005 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2005 Report Share Posted April 3, 2005 I'd say the cheese intake would be about the same as before SBD. I'm consuming more ham. Before SBD nothing was in grams -- it was all pounds ;-) I can easily increase my apple consumption. Chuck Re: constipation You like the feeling? If not than change your dietary balance.. JMHO Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 Presently 5 feet 4 inches tall and 114 Lbs ..·´¨¨)) -:¦:- ¸.·´ .·´¨¨)) ((¸¸.·´ ..·´ -:¦:- -:¦:- ((¸¸.·´ -:¦:- Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read " The South Beach Diet " by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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