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I know Andy's stance on PCA-RX (as stated below). And, I can't say Andy is

wrong. However, I've talked to a few people who say its helped them. I

bought a bottle and it HAS been helping me. I don't want to get into a

crossfire with Andy, because I am really not claiming that it works. I'm

definitely in the " researching " phase. I am also using and considering

Andy's protocol to be primary, with PCA-RX as maybe a type of " secondary "

approach. I use PCA-RX between ALA cycles. I'll post some research I've

conducted regarding PCA-RX.

To Andy: I highly respect your point of view and thats why I use your

protocol as the " backbone " of my chelating efforts. However, I'm just trying

PCA-RX because of the stories I've heard.

> Hi!

>

> > Anyone try PCA-RX and have any positive results?

>

> It isn't a chelating agent and is not effective for removing anything

> other than money from your wallet.

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In a message dated 22/4/03 2:26:37 pm, Jacquiec1@... writes:

> I noticed my son gets very aggressive with the AFX.  Have you seen this with

> your son?  Do tell.

> Jacq

>

No, not at all. It doesn't seem to do anything one way or another. But

he's been more squeaky today, and I wonder if it's because I added monolaurin

to his supp list yesterday. Just 2 pellets twice a day. I'll have to post

a question about this.

Are you sure it was the AFX?

M.

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Anyone with using or having tried PCA-Rx please write me on or off list with

your positive or negative experience...thanks in advance, Michele

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I had some hyperactivity at 2 sprays when we first started them, but nothing

like you are describing! You should call Jim at maxam Labs

(www.maxamlabs.com) and tell him what happened! He would want that feedback.

Nicky gets 4 sprays/day and no problem.

We were the ones waiting on the fecal metals test and, yes, we had high lead,

a show of mercury at .036 with a ref range of <.05 and some other metals,

too. Mayeb it was the PCA, maybe not, but those are the results.

marti

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General comprehension, speech, behavior for the most part. I suspect that it has

helped decrease stimming and some of the other autistic tendencies.

Kristy <K@...> wrote:What, if any, improvements have you

seen? Kristy

On Monday, February 23, 2004, at 08:04 PM, Sharissa13 wrote:

> Yes, yes, about 6 months, none so far.

>

> :)

>

> cities4nations <lambs4him-subs4343@...> wrote:

> Has anyone out there heard of the spray PCA-RX? And if so, have you

> used it and for how

> long and are there any side effects? Thanks!

>

> ny and Lamb

> Twin Cities MN

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How long did it take before you noticed changes in the speech? Also,

how long are you supposed to take it? Til you stop seeing changes?

Kristy

On Tuesday, February 24, 2004, at 02:03 PM, Sharissa13 wrote:

> General comprehension, speech, behavior for the most part. I suspect

> that it has helped decrease stimming and some of the other autistic

> tendencies.

>

> Kristy <K@...> wrote:What, if any, improvements

> have you seen? Kristy

> On Monday, February 23, 2004, at 08:04 PM, Sharissa13 wrote:

>

>> Yes, yes, about 6 months, none so far.

>>

>> :)

>>

>> cities4nations <lambs4him-subs4343@...> wrote:

>> Has anyone out there heard of the spray PCA-RX? And if so, have you

>> used it and for how

>> long and are there any side effects? Thanks!

>>

>> ny and Lamb

>> Twin Cities MN

>>

>>

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I hate to be negative but I have yet to meet anyone that has a positive

re-action to PCA-RX spray. My son, who is not aggressive at all, started biting

himself after one spray. I threw that stuff away!!!! Don't waste $125 on it.

There are cheaper and MUCH MUCH better ways (in my opinion).

wy_2040 <wy_2040@...> wrote: Has anyone heard of PCA-RX spray? It's an

alternative to chelation?

Thanks,

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PCA-Rx.....What is this? Is it effective?

Dennise

mprdh2004 <justice9999@...> wrote:

Hi Michele,

I noticed with my boys that when I did 3 days on 4 days off, they do

very well (both on the on and off days). But when I tried one round

of 3 days on and 11 off, they were more whiny and annoyed very

easily on the off days.

So we are definitly going to stick with the 3/4 schedule.

Have you tried the 3/4 schedule? If not, maybe that would be

something you may want to consider.

> My son does pretty well during the chelating days. He's usually a

bit calmer,

> listens better, is in a generally better mood, & sleeps better.

Inbetween

> he's been extremely hyper, very stimmy (sensory issues are out of

control),

> trouble getting to sleep, & irritible. He's well supplemented, on

Andy's protocol

> using DMSA & ALA, & gets Primal Defense for probiotic, as well as

being treated

> with GSE frequently. I don't want to slow down chelation (we do

every other

> week), as he's already going to be 10 in Sept & is severely

autistic, & we're

> only up to round 29. Has anyone else had issues like this

inbetween chelating &

> what can we do if anything? Does it get better?

>

> Thanks, Michele

>

>

>

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> Does anyone have an opinion about chelating with PCA-RX? It seems so

> much easier than the DMSA. This leads me to believe maybe it doesn't

> really work.

A correct supposition.

> Any thoughts about this, or anyone whom has tried it--I

> would love to hear about it!!

>

> Maureen

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I think, in common with LL's clay baths, what this is really good at

chelating is money from wallets, not metals from bodies.

>From: Stöckle <tomstoeckle@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] PCA-RX

>Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 20:27:07 +0200

>

>Yup,

>I've taken 2 bottles without change of symptoms. Diagnosis:MS

>I think,PCA-Rx is a very expensive marketing gag. This is capitalism...

>

>It's a shame...

>

>Tom

>

> [ ] PCA-RX

> >Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:57:48 -0000

> >

> >

> >Does anyone have an opinion about chelating with PCA-RX? It seems so

> >much easier than the DMSA. This leads me to believe maybe it doesn't

> >really work. Any thoughts about this, or anyone whom has tried it--I

> >would love to hear about it!!

> >

> >Maureen

> >

> >

> >

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