Texas Bush or Wayne.

[Guest guest]

Hi all of you from US. (and Pete)

This campaign has been totally hypnotic, so therefore I think people

from other parts of the world have a right to interfere, discuss and

comment this revolutionary serial.

As a child I loved the Westerns with Wayne. To me, he's my image of

a Texan.

Bush is Texan.

Does this mean that Wayne wasn't?

I don't understand.

Bjørn

[Guest guest]

Bush is a transplanted Connecticut preppie, not a real Texan. Actually very

few inhabitants of Texas are real Texans. Most " Texans " are what we used to

call " carpetbaggers. "

otoh, Al Gore is a Tennesseean, like Davy Crockett and me. If he had just

made a few campaign appearances wearing a coonskin cap he would have won his

home state, hence the election, with ease. Unfortunately Gore didn't think

of this because he lost a lot of his Tennessee smarts when his daddy sent

him to prep school.

I hope this makes the situation perfectly clear ;-)

--wally

Texas Bush or Wayne.

> Hi all of you from US. (and Pete)

>

> This campaign has been totally hypnotic, so therefore I think people

> from other parts of the world have a right to interfere, discuss and

> comment this revolutionary serial.

>

> As a child I loved the Westerns with Wayne. To me, he's my image of

> a Texan.

>

> Bush is Texan.

> Does this mean that Wayne wasn't?

>

> I don't understand.

>

> Bjørn

[Guest guest]

well errr emmmm. wasn't a real Texan and he wasn't a real for

that matter either.

http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/

I guess the real question before us is: Was he a real Duke?

I a way far a way.

Keep chuckling it up at our expense Bjorn :0)

> Texas Bush or Wayne.

>

>

>Hi all of you from US. (and Pete)

>

>This campaign has been totally hypnotic, so therefore I think people

>from other parts of the world have a right to interfere, discuss and

>comment this revolutionary serial.

>

>As a child I loved the Westerns with Wayne. To me, he's my image of

>a Texan.

>

>Bush is Texan.

>Does this mean that Wayne wasn't?

>

>I don't understand.

>

>Bjørn

[Guest guest]

> well errr emmmm. wasn't a real Texan and he wasn't a real

for

> that matter either.

But if he had been a real john, then it probably would have come out

in a political campaign (get it? it's a pun based on calling a guy who

is a consumer of a prostitute's services, a " john " ! hahahahaha, I

crack myself up).

> http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/

>

> I guess the real question before us is: Was he a real Duke?

That might have come out in a political campaign too.

judith

[Guest guest]

Just had to second all that:

Like most people in " the Triangle " (NC), I'm from

somewhere else. We even have a city right next to

Raleigh, the state capital, named Cary, which locals

(and even the actual residents there) jokingly refer

to as standing for the " Centralized Area of Relocated

Yankees. " Though certain s/he exists, I've yet to

meet someone " from Cary " who wasn't originally from

somewhere " up North. "

Incidentally, my hometown is on the cultural " cusp, "

Richmond, Virginia, the only place where I've seen

blue hair (punks, not old people), a nose rings

(plural), Birkenstocks with argyle socks, a rugby

shirt, and bib overalls on the same person at the same

time(!) and a redneck, hippie/beatnik (look it up,

kids), yuppie, and biker all trapped in the same

body(!), a body which, in any given case, may be

outwardly African, European, Asian, otherwise, or some

mixture in ancestry! As " southern " as Richmond is,

residents and visitors quickly learn not to stereotype

or, at the very least, to do so jokingly!

Seriously, even without the controversy of

immigration, America IS becoming the extreme kind of

melting pot it has previously only given lipservice

to, although I prefer the admittedly unctously

New-Agey metaphor of the salad, wherein all parts

retain at least some of their individuality. It's

only logical that that fact would be reflected in the

images of our future leaders, as much as they may

otherwise make me flinch, quiver, and, sometimes,

laugh. (I can just see Gore getting in trouble with

the PC-speech police for wearing and making reference

to his " coonskin cap. " ) Aloha, y'all. --Klyphton

--- wally wrote:

> Bush is a transplanted Connecticut preppie, not a

> real Texan. Actually very

> few inhabitants of Texas are real Texans. Most

> " Texans " are what we used to

> call " carpetbaggers. "

>

> otoh, Al Gore is a Tennesseean, like Davy Crockett

> and me. If he had just

> made a few campaign appearances wearing a coonskin

> cap he would have won his

> home state, hence the election, with ease.

> Unfortunately Gore didn't think

> of this because he lost a lot of his Tennessee

> smarts when his daddy sent

> him to prep school.

>

> I hope this makes the situation perfectly clear ;-)

>

> --wally

>

>

>

> Texas Bush or Wayne.

>

>

> > Hi all of you from US. (and Pete)

> >

> > This campaign has been totally hypnotic, so

> therefore I think people

> > from other parts of the world have a right to

> interfere, discuss and

> > comment this revolutionary serial.

> >

> > As a child I loved the Westerns with Wayne.

> To me, he's my image of

> > a Texan.

> >

> > Bush is Texan.

> > Does this mean that Wayne wasn't?

> >

> > I don't understand.

> >

> > Bjørn

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I think you confuse Texan for cowboy. Though the American football Cowboys are from Texas, most cowboys originated elsewhere, including the Duke. But how did we get onto this subject anyway.

Texas Bush or Wayne.

Hi all of you from US. (and Pete)This campaign has been totally hypnotic, so therefore I think peoplefrom other parts of the world have a right to interfere, discuss andcomment this revolutionary serial.As a child I loved the Westerns with Wayne. To me, he's my image ofa Texan.Bush is Texan.Does this mean that Wayne wasn't?I don't understand.Bjørn

[Guest guest]

hi everyone..

bjorn i am very happy that i was able to communicate

using a little bit of danish, even though i know it's

not much. i wanted to wait until i could look up the

other words to reply, and i am going to do it this

weekend, but i didn't want to delay anymore in just

saying hi and " Hvordan har du det? " as for famous

texans, selena the tragically murdered pop star, and

ross perot, that quirky irritable politican who

founded the reform party come to mind.

Farvel sålænge until soon, and

let every vote count :-)

p.s. bill daley's reply to james baker's statement

that the repubs will not seek a recount in iowa:

" we will return the favor by not seeking a recount in

texas. "

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[Guest guest]

I'm only on my second cup of coffee, so I can only think of two male

movie stars who came from Texas: Tommy Lee and Audie . Oh

yeah, Mac-What's-His-Face, maybe.

[Guest guest]

> otoh, Al Gore is a Tennesseean, like Davy Crockett and me.

Hmmm.... Davy Crock It. Wasnt he the guy who drew up the Electoral

College?

P.

[Guest guest]

> well errr emmmm. wasn't a real Texan and he wasn't a real

for that matter either.

>

> http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/

>

> I guess the real question before us is: Was he a real Duke?

No. n was a 'Dook'!

P.

[Guest guest]

You saying The Duke was a dookie?

You know thems fighten words Pete.

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>> well errr emmmm. wasn't a real Texan and he wasn't a real

>for that matter either.

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>> http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/

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>> I guess the real question before us is: Was he a real Duke?

>

>No. n was a 'Dook'!

>

>P.

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[Guest guest]

I think this falls into the DILLIGAF category.

Texas Bush or Wayne.

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> >

> >Hi all of you from US. (and Pete)

> >

> >This campaign has been totally hypnotic, so therefore I think people

> >from other parts of the world have a right to interfere, discuss and

> >comment this revolutionary serial.

> >

> >As a child I loved the Westerns with Wayne. To me, he's my image of

> >a Texan.

> >

> >Bush is Texan.

> >Does this mean that Wayne wasn't?

> >

> >I don't understand.

> >

> >Bjørn

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[Guest guest]

Ok I'll bite what's ------> DILLIGAF ?

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>I think this falls into the DILLIGAF category.

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[Guest guest]

DILLIGAF ---------> Do I Look Like I Give A...Flip?

Here's a clue for you mooney. Place me on your ignore list. Beleive me I

won't mind in the least.

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>I think this falls into the DILLIGAF category.

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>> well errr emmmm. wasn't a real Texan and he wasn't a real for

>> that matter either.

>>

>> http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/

>>

>> I guess the real question before us is: Was he a real Duke?

>>

>> I a way far a way.

>>

>>

>> Keep chuckling it up at our expense Bjorn :0)

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Toth...

Ive lived in Northern Virginia my entire adult life (I'm 51) and had always

considered myself a Virginian, too. Right up until I spent a year as an

intern in the General Assembly while grad school in Richmond two years ago.

It was like moving to a different planet. The racial tension there is

palpable. The real estate industry divides the Henrico-Richmond-Chesterfield

market into " zones " which just happen to overlay the racial distributions

and agents don't take black clients into white areas. I don't know how they

get away with it. Virginia is 47th in the nation in spending on mental

health, mental retardation and substance abuse and the Republican governors

gleefully chop the budgets of local community services boards (I was a

member of one for three years during the -Gilmore admins) while singing

about the 'Faith Community " . The Old Dominion aristocracy bleeds Northern

VA (as well as Tidewater) of cash while whining that the congestion and

overt development are local problems. Simultaneously, the GA refuses to give

localities the authority to curb developers under the rubric of " we're a

property rights state " .

There are a few bohemian areas in Richmond like the Fan and Shockoe Bottom,

but for the most part, Richmond is a throwback to the 50s. As a new MSW with

a liberal bent, I did the only reasonable thing. I moved across the river to

land!

Sorry!

Re: Texas Bush or Wayne.

> Incidentally, my hometown is on the cultural " cusp, "

> Richmond, Virginia, the only place where I've seen

> blue hair (punks, not old people), a nose rings

> (plural), Birkenstocks with argyle socks, a rugby

> shirt, and bib overalls on the same person at the same

> time(!) and a redneck, hippie/beatnik (look it up,

> kids), yuppie, and biker all trapped in the same

> body(!), a body which, in any given case, may be

> outwardly African, European, Asian, otherwise, or some

> mixture in ancestry! As " southern " as Richmond is,

> residents and visitors quickly learn not to stereotype

> or, at the very least, to do so jokingly!

>

[Guest guest]

Do I Look Like I Give A F*ck?

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[Guest guest]

Well, hell.....hope I didn't upset you.

You a vet?

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> >> well errr emmmm. wasn't a real Texan and he wasn't a real

for

> >> that matter either.

> >>

> >> http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/

> >>

> >> I guess the real question before us is: Was he a real Duke?

> >>

> >> I a way far a way.

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> >>

> >> Keep chuckling it up at our expense Bjorn :0)

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[Guest guest]

You sprained my delicate ego.

Marine Corps 1985 - 2000

Lets hope no one DILLIGAF's us over this exchange.

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>Well, hell.....hope I didn't upset you.

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>You a vet?

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[Guest guest]

I dont know if " Dookie " means anything in US slang, but I was

referring to his accent!

P.

> >> well errr emmmm. wasn't a real Texan and he wasn't a real

> >for that matter either.

> >>

> >> http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/

> >>

> >> I guess the real question before us is: Was he a real Duke?

> >

> >No. n was a 'Dook'!

> >

> >P.

> >

[Guest guest]

I am sure Virginia is glad you are gone. No offense, you just don't sound like a Virginian.

Re: Texas Bush or Wayne.> Incidentally, my hometown is on the cultural "cusp,"> Richmond, Virginia, the only place where I've seen> blue hair (punks, not old people), a nose rings> (plural), Birkenstocks with argyle socks, a rugby> shirt, and bib overalls on the same person at the same> time(!) and a redneck, hippie/beatnik (look it up,> kids), yuppie, and biker all trapped in the same> body(!), a body which, in any given case, may be> outwardly African, European, Asian, otherwise, or some> mixture in ancestry! As "southern" as Richmond is,> residents and visitors quickly learn not to stereotype> or, at the very least, to do so jokingly!>

[Guest guest]

Mucho siento.

How come you didn't do the extra nickel, if I may be so bold as to ask. I'm

an appeals rep for the American Legion in DC.

USAF 67-71

Crash Rescue Crew Chief 69-70 Cam Rahn Bay AB RVN

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[Guest guest]

Medical Discharge but the truth is I was ready to go anyway.

It had stopped being fun right around the time Bush Senior started the 20%

reduction.

I was part of the Base Realignment and Closure (BRAC) team for the Marine

Corps Reserves Headquartered in NOLA. Before it became known as BRAC. Talk

about a political nightmare. It was my job to create and maintain

personal/demographic profiles for every senator/rep where the Marine Corps

had a Reserve center. While we didn't lie we definitely skewed the

presentations to appear to favor whoever we happened to be presenting to at

the moment.

There was an incredible amount of high level interest in the team's work and

everyone (who was anyone) attempted to influence the final recommendations.

I learned, during that time, if we could pull out of Joint Reserve Centers

first we could transfer closure costs, in some cases, to the tune of

millions to the remaining service. The Navy taught us that. It became a

foot race to see who could abandon reserve centers fastest.

All of it left a bad taste in my mouth.

I'll stop here and believe me I just cut a long rant out of this message.

> Re: Texas Bush or Wayne.

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>Mucho siento.

>

>How come you didn't do the extra nickel, if I may be so bold as to ask. I'm

>an appeals rep for the American Legion in DC.

>

>USAF 67-71

>Crash Rescue Crew Chief 69-70 Cam Rahn Bay AB RVN

>

[Guest guest]

Re: Texas Bush or Wayne.

I am sure Virginia is glad you are gone. No offense, you just don't sound like a Virginian.

No offense taken. I was a Northern Virginian. I didn't realize the magnitude of the difference until I spent some time observing the state government on it's home turf, as well as the cultural differences in Richmond.

Unfortunately, The General Assembly would have to vote to allow the counties and independent cities of Arlington, Falls Church, Fairfax and andria to leave the Commonwealth and become the 51st state.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like a tough job. I knew a guy in AA in Virginia who is a pentagon

representative to the communities where base closings happen. Basically he

was a lightning rod for all the anger and political flack that ensues. Held

town meetings where he had stuff thrown at him and was spit on, etc.

Are you SC for the medical conds?

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> >Mucho siento.

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> >How come you didn't do the extra nickel, if I may be so bold as to ask.

I'm

> >an appeals rep for the American Legion in DC.

> >

> >USAF 67-71

> >Crash Rescue Crew Chief 69-70 Cam Rahn Bay AB RVN

> >

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[Guest guest]

Zellweger. Farrah Fawcett.

> I'm only on my second cup of coffee, so I can only think of two male

> movie stars who came from Texas: Tommy Lee and Audie .

Oh

> yeah, Mac-What's-His-Face, maybe.