Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Yikes, poor ! How old is she? Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 She's 17 Re: bad periods Yikes, poor ! How old is she? Jill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 is she taking the birth control pill? At her age, it could help level out her hormones and make her periods much lighter and more regular. Jill She's 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 See reply to barbs post Re: bad periods is she taking the birth control pill? At her age, it could help level out her hormones and make her periods much lighter and more regular. Jill She's 17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 Re: bad periods I have heavy periods that are extremely painfun and also make me sick! My condition is called Dysmenorrhea. brief summary, ~~~~~~~ That sounds like me when I was a teen!!! I would lose one day of school each month because I would be in sooo much pain, vomiting, diarrhea, nausea.....heavy periods that lasted 7 days... It wasn't until I was on the pill at age 17 for the bad periods that things settled down, a little... It wasn't until I had my daughter, , that the horrible cramps finally went away but I would still have the diarrhea each month and heavy bleeding. Sorry, guys... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 > She's 17 > - Well when I was that age I had to take prescribed pain meds too. Now I guess I have just gotten used to it. It only lasted a few hours for me. kim Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 > Sorry, guys... > > Bonnie No apologies necessary. Half way through my basic massage school training (I think it was when we got into the dissection videos), I came home and said " I now know more about the human body than I ever wanted to know. " All of you already know how I feel about alternative approaches, particularly Eastern modalities such as Acupressure. I have not had an occasion to personally use the following release techniques on anyone, but I am going to quote the full " Painful Periods " section from " A Complete Guide to Acupressure Revised " by Iona Teeguarden. " The estrogen phase of the menstrual cycle is the two weeks after menstruation, when estrogen causes the uterine lining (endometrium) to proliferate, and the muscles of the pelvic floor to contract in the lower abdominal area. This estrogen period, driven by the anterior lobe of the pituitary, causes the egg cell to ripen and prepares the womb for any fertilized eggs. The egg is encased with a special cell covering (follicle). At ovulation, the follicle splits open. The egg moves down the Fallopian tube, and the follicle cell makes progesterone and causes an increase in the uterine blood supply. If no fertilized egg is embedded in the womb after ovulation, the estrogen and progesterone levels decrease, beginning the two week progesterone phase of the cycle. These declining hormone levels cannot maintain the uterine lining, so the pelvic floor relaxes and menstruation begins. Cramping and clotting occur when estrogen and progesterone continue to be released prior to and during menstruation, giving the body mixed messages to hold on and let go at the same time. Many emotional upsets can cause menstrual pain and cramping, by unsettling the diencephalon's function in the release of hormones. Usually cramping, lower back ache, and headaches ease once the flow is established. In the treatment of menstrual cramps, it is necessary to both address the symptoms of discomfort, and focus on the whole hormonal and energetic balance. The Spleen and Liver Meridian are always involved in painful menstruation. Excessive blood flow can be addressed by tonifying the Spleen, which affects the hormonal balance and the ability to hold blood. Sweet foods tonify the Spleen-Pancreas, and many women have increased cravings for sweets in the progesterone phase. Excessive sugar causes tryptophan to be forced into the brain cells and acts as a precursor for the brain chemical serotonin, which has a beneficial effect, but which in excess stimulates the release of ACTH stress hormone. This causes nervous tension, anxiety, drowsiness and inability to concentrate. The symptoms produced by high blood sugar levels can create an even greater craving for more sugar. Because the Liver provides and controls the blood in the uterus, cramps and spasms can be eased by releasing points on the Liver Meridian. The feeling of energy draining out of the body, which often accompanies menstrual flow, can be addressed by tonifying the Kidney, and by using #42 to bring ascending energy up into the body. " The book then goes on to list a series of a dozen specific points to work. Actually, two dozen, becuase it is 12 on each side of the body. Listing the full sequence is too much for an email, but here are some specific, individual points you can try. Spleen 1: Is a special point to stop bleeding, especially uterine. It is located one " body inch " behind the inside base of the big toenail. A " body inch " is the distance equal to the length of the middle section of the person's first finger. Liver 1: Helps stop excessive uterine bleeding. It is located one " body inch " behind the outside base of the big toenail. On both of the above, the points are on the sides of the toe - not the top. Liver 3: Has a specific calming action on spasms, contractions, and cramps. It is located on the top of the foot, below the junction of the first and second metatarsal bones, and pressing upward toward the ankle. Like I said, the full Jin Shin Do release uses a dozen paired points. These three points, however, are particularly effective ones and fairly easy for anyone to locate and use. If any of you want to know some of the other points, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 I'll probably get on the pill or back on the depo. The depo didn't seem to change her at all. I have a friend who was on it, and she went crazy on it. Really bad. I don't know if was on it long enough to actually have any of those symptoms. 9 months seems like it should be long enough, though. Mon Re: bad periods I have heavy periods that are extremely painfun and also make me sick! My condition is called Dysmenorrhea. brief summary, ~~~~~~~ That sounds like me when I was a teen!!! I would lose one day of school each month because I would be in sooo much pain, vomiting, diarrhea, nausea.....heavy periods that lasted 7 days... It wasn't until I was on the pill at age 17 for the bad periods that things settled down, a little... It wasn't until I had my daughter, , that the horrible cramps finally went away but I would still have the diarrhea each month and heavy bleeding. Sorry, guys... Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 So Mike, what exactly do you do at these points? Is it like pressing, or massaging? Mon Re: bad periods > Sorry, guys... > > Bonnie No apologies necessary. Half way through my basic massage school training (I think it was when we got into the dissection videos), I came home and said " I now know more about the human body than I ever wanted to know. " All of you already know how I feel about alternative approaches, particularly Eastern modalities such as Acupressure. I have not had an occasion to personally use the following release techniques on anyone, but I am going to quote the full " Painful Periods " section from " A Complete Guide to Acupressure Revised " by Iona Teeguarden. " The estrogen phase of the menstrual cycle is the two weeks after menstruation, when estrogen causes the uterine lining (endometrium) to proliferate, and the muscles of the pelvic floor to contract in the lower abdominal area. This estrogen period, driven by the anterior lobe of the pituitary, causes the egg cell to ripen and prepares the womb for any fertilized eggs. The egg is encased with a special cell covering (follicle). At ovulation, the follicle splits open. The egg moves down the Fallopian tube, and the follicle cell makes progesterone and causes an increase in the uterine blood supply. If no fertilized egg is embedded in the womb after ovulation, the estrogen and progesterone levels decrease, beginning the two week progesterone phase of the cycle. These declining hormone levels cannot maintain the uterine lining, so the pelvic floor relaxes and menstruation begins. Cramping and clotting occur when estrogen and progesterone continue to be released prior to and during menstruation, giving the body mixed messages to hold on and let go at the same time. Many emotional upsets can cause menstrual pain and cramping, by unsettling the diencephalon's function in the release of hormones. Usually cramping, lower back ache, and headaches ease once the flow is established. In the treatment of menstrual cramps, it is necessary to both address the symptoms of discomfort, and focus on the whole hormonal and energetic balance. The Spleen and Liver Meridian are always involved in painful menstruation. Excessive blood flow can be addressed by tonifying the Spleen, which affects the hormonal balance and the ability to hold blood. Sweet foods tonify the Spleen-Pancreas, and many women have increased cravings for sweets in the progesterone phase. Excessive sugar causes tryptophan to be forced into the brain cells and acts as a precursor for the brain chemical serotonin, which has a beneficial effect, but which in excess stimulates the release of ACTH stress hormone. This causes nervous tension, anxiety, drowsiness and inability to concentrate. The symptoms produced by high blood sugar levels can create an even greater craving for more sugar. Because the Liver provides and controls the blood in the uterus, cramps and spasms can be eased by releasing points on the Liver Meridian. The feeling of energy draining out of the body, which often accompanies menstrual flow, can be addressed by tonifying the Kidney, and by using #42 to bring ascending energy up into the body. " The book then goes on to list a series of a dozen specific points to work. Actually, two dozen, becuase it is 12 on each side of the body. Listing the full sequence is too much for an email, but here are some specific, individual points you can try. Spleen 1: Is a special point to stop bleeding, especially uterine. It is located one " body inch " behind the inside base of the big toenail. A " body inch " is the distance equal to the length of the middle section of the person's first finger. Liver 1: Helps stop excessive uterine bleeding. It is located one " body inch " behind the outside base of the big toenail. On both of the above, the points are on the sides of the toe - not the top. Liver 3: Has a specific calming action on spasms, contractions, and cramps. It is located on the top of the foot, below the junction of the first and second metatarsal bones, and pressing upward toward the ankle. Like I said, the full Jin Shin Do release uses a dozen paired points. These three points, however, are particularly effective ones and fairly easy for anyone to locate and use. If any of you want to know some of the other points, let me know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 12, 2003 Report Share Posted December 12, 2003 > So Mike, what exactly do you do at these points? Is it like pressing, or massaging? > Mon - It depends on who you read/talk to. Generally, if you are trying to tonify/strengthen a point or meridian, you use medium to firm pressure. You can either simply hold the point (apply direct pressure to the point) or use a circular, massaging, pressure. If you are trying to sedate the point, you use a lighter pressure. General rule of thumb is to hold or apply pressure for 2-3 minutes. In terms of locating points, you feel for a texture difference. It might feel like a lump or dip or " just different " than the texture of the tissue around it. At least these are things that the various texts mention. Personally, I " feel " the energy. For me, it is like a tingling or vibration. Other people I know sense it differently, like temperature or color sensations. One thing I didn't mention in the earlier post is that one of the key principles of Jin Shin Do is holding two points at the same time as opposed to just a single point. You get results either way, but for anyone who can actually sense or feel the energy, holding two points is considerably more effective. The reason is that we hold for an energy balance. We hold the two points until the sense of energy is balanced between our two hands. Because of this, I personally never worry about trying to tonify or sedate when I am working on someone. I just try to restore the balance - whichever direction that balance needs. Also because of this, I don't personally worry about how long I am holding the points. I hold until they balance - whether it is 15 seconds or five minutes. I can't give you any first hand, anecdotal stories about using these particular points because I havn't had any occasion to use them so far. The only thing I can tell you is that I have used points for a lot of different conditions. I have yet to try them on anything specific and not have them work. And this includes things like headaches, sciatica, toothaches, sinus congestion, hiccups, hay fever, TMJ and the list goes on. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: mikeuggen > > Spleen 1: Is a special point to stop bleeding, especially uterine. > It is located one " body inch " behind the inside base of the big > toenail. A " body inch " is the distance equal to the length of the > middle section of the person's first finger. > > Liver 1: Helps stop excessive uterine bleeding. It is located > one " body inch " behind the outside base of the big toenail. > > On both of the above, the points are on the sides of the toe - not > the top. > > Liver 3: Has a specific calming action on spasms, contractions, and > cramps. It is located on the top of the foot, below the junction of > the first and second metatarsal bones, and pressing upward toward > the ankle. > > Like I said, the full Jin Shin Do release uses a dozen paired > points. These three points, however, are particularly effective > ones and fairly easy for anyone to locate and use. If any of you > want to know some of the other points, let me know. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 13, 2003 Report Share Posted December 13, 2003 > So Mike, what exactly do you do at these points? Is it like pressing, or massaging? > Mon - A couple of things I forgot to mention in the earlier posts is the importance of grounding and centering whenever you are doing bodywork, as well as focusing your intention on what you are doing. This includes the power of positive thinking but goes well beyond that. Basically, if you are thinking about what to fix for dinner or paying the monthly bills while you are doing the work, you are not going to get good results. You need to be focused on what you are doing. Essentially, you are trying to get to a meditative state right about the line between beta and theta brain waves (as opposed to walking around alpha state). And you also want to focus on the results you are trying to achieve. It may sound like mumbo-jumbo, but I can assure you, it is anything but. It does make a difference. Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2003 Report Share Posted December 14, 2003 My periods aren't really heavy but they are long (8 days) and close togehter (20 days) and my pain levels get so out of control during my period that my doctors have me using the pill to make it so that I only have 3 periods in a year and this makes a HUGE difference to me. Sharon > Just wondering if any of you girls have trouble with very heavy, > painful periods. > is having her 2nd this month, and bleeding so heavy. She's > shaky and in so much pain. I used to have very painful periods > before my hysterectomy, but not heavy. > Just wondering if EDS can make them worse. > Her bed was a mess this morning! It's just awful. Very distressing > to her. > Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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