Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 I'm crying. I do cry alot however. We know... we all know. Looking back now knowing what I should have someone known then I do resent all the happy mothers who said oh no she's so beautiful it just couldn't be. And yet it was. In the past year I have built up a network of a dozen mothers that I call weekly to check in. How are you I ask? Can I help where are you going what do you need? If I hadn't had you gals I would have given up. Instead I battled back. If it wasn't for the support and knowledge that you girls have given me I don't know if I would have been able to go as far as we have. In the beginning it felt like the end... but now it's just our own version of normal. Hugs to your friend... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 I do not know what to do. Should I call her and make sure she is okay? Email her? I don't want to be pushy, but I don't want her to feel alone either. And I don't know for sure that it is autism although....well, you know. > > Salli How sad is this..... but it sounds like you are friends with her...I would call her to see how she is doing...I wish i would have had a friend like you when jenna was smaller...some one who had a clue to what was going on...and not brushing it off, as just a slow learner... call her...jmo nancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 > I do not know what to do. Should I call her and make sure she is okay? Email her? I don't want to be pushy, but I don't want her to feel alone either. And I don't know for sure that it is autism although....well, you know. > Salli, I would call or email, whichever is more fitting for your relationship with her. I wouldn't push the issue of having him tested, just test the waters and see if she needs a shoulder. Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 Salli, I would call her. She needs someone who can talk her though this. Not someone that is going to just send her to someone else. You would be a friend that she needs now. And then you will always be someone who will be there for her and she will understand that. So I would call. Lori -- The terrible thing that happened yesterday A friend named Grace called. She wanted to come over. I hadn't seen her in nearly three years when I helped her solve some nursing problems with her five week old baby. She had been trying to get pregnant for years and years with no success and so I was very happy for her when she finally conceived. I was happy to help her with her nursing problems. Grace was a colleague of Lou's in the English department and when she heard of Lou's embezzlement problems, she wrote to me offering any kind of help that she could give. I was so touched by her letter. However, it took me some time to answer it, and so, when I did, I wrote her a very long letter, sending her pictures of the kids and a Putter motorcycle. I explained in detail about Putter's autism and how it caused problems with Lou and I. I described how Putter had behaved, the lack of speech and eye contact, etc., and said to her that she could probably look at her own child and see that these behaviors of his were not normal. Oh dear. She wrote back. She said that her son, Joe, did not talk much, but she didn t make it sound too bad. She said that when she added up all his words they were really pretty many. I wrote back again, telling her about normal and abnormal speech development I told her that there should be no loss of either receptive or expressive language. In her next note, I could tell that she was pretty knowledgeable about autism. Yesterday, she called and asked if she could drop by. I was expecting no more than a friendly visit, in fact, I hardly registered that she was bringing little Joe along with her. Well, you all probably know what I saw. Joe came in and immediately led his mother -- by the hand, using her hand to do things -- around to all my light switches. " He always does this, " Grace explained, " He wants all the lights on. I try to explain about electricity bills... " I have given explanations like this too. I laughed and said, " Kids are weird " I couldn't take my eyes off Joe. I kept trying to not see what I was seeing. I did tell her that hand leading was a typical autistic behavior, but I pointed out that it was also a typical non-verbal behavior. We talked about Putter. I told her all about his development and how fun and interesting and intelligent he was. I watched Joe the whole time. While we talked, Joe moved his mother's hand to a railroad crossing signal on our toy train set, and had her pick it up and give it to him. Then he sat and flicked the signal up and down. Over and over and over again. He tried to slide down a small toy slide that we have in that room. But he was awkward going up, seemed to lack a strong sense of where he was. He pulled his mother's hand to help him. Whenever he took her hand, he did not look at her. All I heard him say were repeated syllables, the same over and over again, and " No! " Sophie came home from school and wandered around. Joe pulled his mother's hand over to a helicopter and pushed her hand at it. " You want this? " she asked and gave it to him. He sat and spun the helicopter rotors around. Over and over and over again. I glanced back. Sophie was standing in the doorway watching Joe. Her face looked dreamy and somber. " Mama? " she whispered to me. I went to her. " Is that little boy autistic? " she asked me. Oh, great. An eight year old knows. And the mother does not yet know. Of course, I had to say something. I resent every person who knew and did not tell me. I shut my eyes for a second and said, as gently as I could say the terrible words, " Grace. Sophie just asked if Joe was autistic. " Grace's chin dropped to her chest as if she had been hit. I could tell she was trying not to cry. I added quickly, " You know, I know autism very well. But there are things that mimic autism and I do not know those. I am not qualified to diagnose a child with autism, but I do think you should have him evaluated. " I got her a pamphlet with some phone numbers to call. We talked for a long time about what Joe's life might be like, but she was utterly devastated. She is probably only a year or two younger than me, in her mid-forties and I imagine this will be her only child. I do not know what to do. Should I call her and make sure she is okay? Email her? I don't want to be pushy, but I don't want her to feel alone either. And I don't know for sure that it is autism although....well, you know. Salli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 >In the past year I have built up a network of a dozen mothers that I call weekly to check in. How are you I ask? Can I help where are you going what do you need? If I hadn't had you gals I would have given up. Instead I battled back. If it wasn't for the support and knowledge that you girls have given me I don't know if I would have been able to go as far as we have.< Maybe reaching out to more mothers will help me stop feel so g-ddamn sorry for myself sometimes...That's really what I'm lacking - a network. Glad I found this list. - , Sam and Max's mom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2002 Report Share Posted December 18, 2002 Ironically, a woman I know called today (she has twins a year younger than mine) and asked me if she should jump her pediatrician and bring her twins to the neurologist to be checked out. I knew her twins have just started receiving early intervention services for development delays - but felt wholly unqualified to guide her. We've only had our diagnosis since September - who the hell am I to dispense advice. I told her about CHAT - and where to find a copy online and basically said, if in doubt, GO TO THE NEUROLOGIST. It was funky - i didn't want to scare her, but I sure as hell wished I had someone to call a year ago when I was questioning their behavior. I scared her. I'll work on my tact. - , Sam and Max's mom - way to tired to be tactful today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Oh, Salli, how sad! But you know you did what you needed to do. I still almost hate the people who told me (after dx) that they always thought Brandt was autistic. What the hell? And Never said a word to me? Is that a friend? You owed it to Joe's mom as a friend to tell her your suspicions. She may have a hard time talking to you for a while, but I would e-mail her and make myself available to her. She is going to need someone who has been there to talk to. And chances are, her dh is going to be even more resistant of the idea than she is. Men just don't seem to " know " like we do, maybe they aren't with the kids enough. You would be a excellent source of information for her. And when she needs to talk, some of us here would be glad to tell her about our kids. Louisa's web site is excellent for some information that is personal. ((((Salli)))) Thanks for the Xmas card, by the way. We are trying to make the big move (30 miles, but a full house move nontheless) on Monday, Dec. 23rd, so I haven't been good about sending things out. Happy Holidays to all! Leggs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2002 Report Share Posted December 19, 2002 Salli, I think you should call her up and ask her if she had been suspecting something was up with him. She did ask you about Putter....I think she had a clue. You can also let her know that you are available if she has any questions or needs any support (assuming you have time to do so). You can always reassure her that you could be wrong (even though it doesn't sound like it) if she sounds pretty freaked out. FWIW I think you did the right thing. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 20, 2002 Report Share Posted December 20, 2002 I agree with whoever said to contact her in whatever way you have been corresponding more. I started the process on getting Matt tested because a woman I had just met and had an autistic son was brave enough to ask me if I suspected it. I probably would have just kept telling myself he was speech delayed and a bit, well, odd. Thank goodness she said something, and now he's going to school and getting what he needs. Please let us know what happens. You're a good friend to be concerned about her and her feelings. ellen --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.431 / Virus Database: 242 - Release Date: 12/17/2002 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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