you shouldn't say that

[Guest guest]

It's interesting, in the " 12 step free " thread, that people think we

should not talk so much about *A in this group--or we shouldn't

mention *A at all. What's most interesting is that people feel that

way for different reasons. People who probably don't agree with each

other in a lot of ways, are concurring in that thread. What I'm

seeing

is that some people just don't want to hear about *A because they're

sick to death of the omnipresent cliches and oversimplifications,

while others don't want to talk about *A because they still think *A

is a good organization and it's wrong to criticize a good

organization.

judith