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> Don't shoot me for asking this question because I haven't done

> this ! but has anyone out there done one high dose every other

> weekend versus Andy's standard protocol? Can you pull more with

> single high doses per round than low doses over a short period of

> time? Just curious.

From my experience, giving a higher dose of ALA did create quicker results, but

I gradually worked up to the higher dose, and I

always gave it as part of a " round " , altho my rounds were different than what is

generally recommended on this forum.

Dana

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Hi,

At 15:16 8-1-2004, you wrote:

>weekend versus Andy's standard protocol? Can you pull more with

>single high doses per round than low doses over a short period of

>time? Just curious.

High doses can make you very sick. Taking only one single dose is more

likely to cause redistribution than detox. Andy posted a calculation

somewhere that showed that a higher dose only cause a *little* more mercury

to come out, whereas it caused a *lot* of extra side effects. So the best

and safest course of action seems to be to do rounds with low doses, with

appropriate off-days to recuperate, and do them for as long as necessary.

For myself, I found that longer rounds (with more off-days in between) seem

to work better for me than doing short rounds often. I started with 3 days

on, 4 days off, but have switched to 5 days on and 9 days off, and I found

more improvement with the latter. I do stick to a low dose, though: I tried

to increase it once, and became very, very sick indeed.

I intend to increase the dose only once I barely notice any side-effects

from the current (low) dose at all, and only very, very gradually.

Regards,

de Vries

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I never chelated myself but once I took one 25mg tablet of ALA to see

if I will see any effects. As a result I lost my short-term memory (I

was developing some software application, and I started looking at my

code as if it was written by somebody else - I completely forgot what

I was trying to implement there. I also did not want to make eye

contact, I had a strange feeling, like " I feel like I am drunk and if

I look into people's eyes they will see that I am drunk " . Those bad

effects disappeared after several days.

Margaret

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wrote:

> Don't shoot me for asking this question because I haven't done

> this ! but has anyone out there done one high dose every other

> weekend versus Andy's standard protocol? Can you pull more with

> single high doses per round than low doses over a short period of

> time? Just curious.

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> From my experience, giving a higher dose of ALA did create quicker

results,

I would like to know how did you know there was a quicker results by

giving a higher dose? Testing? By how you felt?

Chan.

> but I gradually worked up to the higher dose, and I

> always gave it as part of a " round " , altho my rounds were different

than what is generally recommended on this forum.

>

> Dana

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> For myself, I found that longer rounds (with more off-days in

between) seem

> to work better for me than doing short rounds often. I started with

3 days

> on, 4 days off, but have switched to 5 days on and 9 days off, and

I found

> more improvement with the latter. I do stick to a low dose, though:

I tried

> to increase it once, and became very, very sick indeed.

>

>

> de Vries

I think I got the same experience. I was on 100mg ALA before and

seemed OK. But once I increased to 150mg, I became very very sick,

till now. It's been about 2 weeks. How did you recover from that bad

experience? I now become timid and fearful again. The body becomes so

weak. Feeling very negatively. And there are so many floaters in my

eyes. Though I am now getting better than few days ago.

I am now on 50mg. It's been 3 days. Seems no side effect this time. I

dare not to increase the dosing any more.

Regards,

Chan.

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> > From my experience, giving a higher dose of ALA did create quicker

> results,

>

> I would like to know how did you know there was a quicker results by

> giving a higher dose? Testing? By how you felt?

I am not chelating myself, this is what I experienced with my kids. I started

at lower doses, and when I saw no measurable

improvement after a round, I increased to a slightly higher dose. Then my kids

would improve again, usually very rapidly, then taper

off, then I would increase the dose, etc.

My kids never showed any negative reaction except they did get yeast overgrowth

occasionally, which I treated with GSE.

Dana

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> Don't shoot me for asking this question because I haven't done

> this ! but has anyone out there done one high dose every other

> weekend versus Andy's standard protocol? Can you pull more with

> single high doses per round than low doses over a short period of

> time? Just curious.

let's start with the idea that higher dose will pull out more

(but only A LITTLE BIT more).

okay, so now let's compare lower dose with MANY doses, compared

to ONE higher dose.

In order to UNREALISTICALLY simplify things, we will completely

ignore the higher risk of mercury redistribution with ONE dose.

MANY smaller doses will chelate more than ONE larger dose, unless

the larger dose......

MANY large doses would chelate more than ONE large dose or many

small doses.

The story is a little more complex though.

a. higher doses also have more side effects.

b. it is important to take many doses close together to lower

the chances (and amount) of mercury redistribution. This is

the MAIN consideration here.

good wishes,

Moria

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> The story is a little more complex though.

> a. higher doses also have more side effects.

Higher doses caused me severe side effects. I am 160lbs, and in the

last round, I tried 150mg ALA per dose. After that round till now (2

weeks), I think very negatively and become very excitable. Also, very

weak and ill. Muscle and eye tics are severe too. What should I do?

Simply take a long long resting period, or I have to take some

supplements to get well again?

Thanks,

Chan.

> b. it is important to take many doses close together to lower

> the chances (and amount) of mercury redistribution. This is

> the MAIN consideration here.

>

> good wishes,

> Moria

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Lots of Vit C will help. Maybe minerals too?

Barb

[ ] Re: High dose once vs. andy's protocol

> > The story is a little more complex though.

> > a. higher doses also have more side effects.

>

> Higher doses caused me severe side effects. I am 160lbs, and in the

> last round, I tried 150mg ALA per dose. After that round till now (2

> weeks), I think very negatively and become very excitable. Also, very

> weak and ill. Muscle and eye tics are severe too. What should I do?

> Simply take a long long resting period, or I have to take some

> supplements to get well again?

>

> Thanks,

> Chan.

>

> > b. it is important to take many doses close together to lower

> > the chances (and amount) of mercury redistribution. This is

> > the MAIN consideration here.

> >

> > good wishes,

> > Moria

>

>

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