Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Hi Jen, Have you tried a warm bath or warm milk? I personally can't stand warm milk, or milk of any kind, but I will drink hot chocolate. I also try to do some body relaxation and visualization when I go to bed. I also have some music that is very relaxing, that's supposed to beat at the rate close to one's heart beat. I think if you search under meditation and relaxation music, you would come up with some ideas and places you could order this type of music or guided body relaxation that you could play at bedtime. I try to relax my body from toes to head, naming each body part in my mind. Sometimes I'm too keyed up to do it, but if I'm not, I hardly ever make it to my head! LOL! Can you take something like Tylenol PM or Benadryl to help? There are also some natural herbs to help with sleep. Melatonin and Valerian are a couple I think. Good luck! Love Lana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2003 Report Share Posted December 4, 2003 Hi Jen, Have you tried a warm bath or warm milk? I personally can't stand warm milk, or milk of any kind, but I will drink hot chocolate. I also try to do some body relaxation and visualization when I go to bed. I also have some music that is very relaxing, that's supposed to beat at the rate close to one's heart beat. I think if you search under meditation and relaxation music, you would come up with some ideas and places you could order this type of music or guided body relaxation that you could play at bedtime. I try to relax my body from toes to head, naming each body part in my mind. Sometimes I'm too keyed up to do it, but if I'm not, I hardly ever make it to my head! LOL! Can you take something like Tylenol PM or Benadryl to help? There are also some natural herbs to help with sleep. Melatonin and Valerian are a couple I think. Good luck! Love Lana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 I keep finding myself up into early morning hours, because I know that if I try to relax I'll hurt a lot more. Doing less may be the best treatment. > Hi all, > > it seems that around this time of year, I have problems sleeping. I > become an insomniac in some sense. i just am not able to fall > asleep or if i do i can't seem to stay asleep. i was wondering if > this happens to anyone else. any are there any suggestions on how > to get quality sleep. when i dont get much sleep, last nigth was 3 > hours, i really hurt much worse. like now, my pain is at 7.5 at > going up and i am trying to make it through the work day. any help > would be appreciated! > > you all take care of yourselves and your loved ones. i send happy > wished for you all!! > hugs > Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2003 Report Share Posted December 6, 2003 I'm sure you have lots of company, I use a very bright light in the morning and morning exercise when I can but it's tough. > Hi all, > > it seems that around this time of year, I have problems sleeping. I > become an insomniac in some sense. i just am not able to fall > asleep or if i do i can't seem to stay asleep. i was wondering if > this happens to anyone else. any are there any suggestions on how > to get quality sleep. when i dont get much sleep, last nigth was 3 > hours, i really hurt much worse. like now, my pain is at 7.5 at > going up and i am trying to make it through the work day. any help > would be appreciated! > > you all take care of yourselves and your loved ones. i send happy > wished for you all!! > hugs > Jen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Helen: how is the sleep coming along? There have been quite a few notices lately in my health newsletters about apnea causing poorer dm control. Vicki is your adjustment complete now? cappie Greater Boston Area T-2 10/02 5/05 A1c: 5.3 = 111 mean glu 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin ALA/EPO, B12, ALC, Vit C, Cac/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, Policosanol, fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, Lovastatin 20 mg/coQ10 100mg, Enalapril 10 mg 5/05:140 lbs (highest weight 309) 5' tall /age 67, cappie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Yes, I think so. I ended up with 2 masks but I've been using the nose-only one more than the nose pillows one, it seems more comfortable, though it's bulkier than the nose pillows. I'm falling asleep right away -- the CPAP makes a quite pleasant white noise - and I'm sleeping through the night, which is wonderful. As far as apnea's effect on my BGs -- well, as a type 1 my BGs are so volatile there's really no way to compare before and after CPAP. Much more is dependent on how much insulin I take. And there's absolutely no way to guarantee that, either. I keep 2 months' worth of records on my Palm and refer to that for a guide on how much insulin to take for same/similar meals (not too hard to do with breakfast and lunch at least) but the variation is wide. And there are other mysterious factors too. As an example, comparing my bedtime BG with my FBG the next morning...on 4 occasions in the last 2 months my bedtime BG was 125, usually a good, safe number to go to bed with. However, the wake-up numbers were, variously, 60, 144, 101 and 187. Go figure. And even though my basal UL insulin doses are absolutely correct (as tested by fasting), my bedtime BGs have varied from 105 to 183 in the last 2 months. Ah the challenges of maintaining good diabetic control! Vicki Re: Sleep > Helen: how is the sleep coming along? There have been quite a few > notices lately in my health newsletters about apnea causing poorer dm > control. Vicki is your adjustment complete now? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 I give all of those with such volatile bg's a whole lot of credit for not going nuts--such instability would drive me up a wall! Of course I do have mysterious differences occasionally but not to such wide a degree. As a T2 mostly my numbers stick to a quite small arc of change -- thank goodness. Glad that you are at least sleeping better & can tolerate the mask now! cappie Greater Boston Area T-2 10/02 5/05 A1c: 5.3 = 111 mean glu 50-100 carb diet, walking, Metformin ALA/EPO, B12, ALC, Vit C, Cac/mag, low dose Biotin, full spectrum E, Policosanol, fish oil cap, fresh flax seed, multi vitamin, Lovastatin 20 mg/coQ10 100mg, Enalapril 10 mg 5/05:140 lbs (highest weight 309) 5' tall /age 67, cappie@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 > Helen: how is the sleep coming along? Aaarggghhh! I cannot get past about six hours with the mask on. Then it loses its adjustment and starts to give me raspberries. Wakes me up and I start fiddling with the position, the straps, to no avail. So I pull it off. Part of the problem is that I am a side sleeper and used to burrowing my head into the pillow or the cat. Can't do that now, and I have to say the cat has acclimated a lot better than I. Plus I think the mask does not fit quite right. Too long. I don't have a small nose, but my features are close together and my nose tilts upwards which decreases length too. The bridge is too close to my eyes, which are too close to each other because my own bridge is narrow. FYI list, I have sleep hypopnea which they think might be due to a partial obstruction when the muscles relax during sleep. This lowers my oxygen saturation level from 90% to, sometimes, as low as 83%. Since I know very little about this condition, and my doctor knows even less, I have joined a sleep apnea group that Sally told me about and Vicki belongs to. When I dropped the spironolactone (haven't told my doctor yet) I noticed a nice decrease in my numbers and insulin usage. While I was gone recently there was a great drop, but I did not hold on to that. BooHoo. As of using this thing, I have yet to see a change. Thanks for asking. Helen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 --- Helen Mueller wrote: > Aaarggghhh! I cannot get past about six hours with > the mask on. Then > it loses its adjustment and starts to give me > raspberries. Wakes me up > and I start fiddling with the position, the straps, > to no avail. So I > pull it off. > > Part of the problem is that I am a side sleeper and > used to burrowing my > head into the pillow or the cat. Can't do that now, > and I have to say > the cat has acclimated a lot better than I. Plus I > think the mask does > not fit quite right. Helen, I didn't even TRY the mask...I opted straight for the surgery and it worked. Liz Type II, dx'ed Dec 1998, insulin since 6/02(my choice), pumping since 8/03. On glucophage, and other meds. Have neuropathy, PCOS, RLS, ET, Fibro, and asthma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Hi, Helen..well, everyone's different but six hours' sleep is generally enough for me. I'm just happy I can get through the night without waking up a couple of times a night from drymouth, thanks to my new cpap machine! I was a stomach sleeper until I started on CPAP...I now find I can sleep on my side with the nose pillow type mask and also (if I'm careful) the nose-only mask too. I've gotten used to not sleeping on my stomach, I guess. Despite doing it for 60+ years before I got the CPAP machine. Oh, and I did have the UPPP surgery about 10 years ago and it didn't help one bit. Well, maybe a tiny bit, smile. But not enough to stop the apnea. (And I'm not even overweight!) Vicki Re: Re: Sleep > --- Helen Mueller wrote: >> Aaarggghhh! I cannot get past about six hours with >> the mask on. Then >> it loses its adjustment and starts to give me >> raspberries. Wakes me up >> and I start fiddling with the position, the straps, >> to no avail. So I >> pull it off. >> >> Part of the problem is that I am a side sleeper and >> used to burrowing my >> head into the pillow or the cat. Can't do that now, >> and I have to say >> the cat has acclimated a lot better than I. Plus I >> think the mask does >> not fit quite right. > > Helen, I didn't even TRY the mask...I opted straight > for the surgery and it worked. Liz > > Type II, dx'ed Dec 1998, insulin since 6/02(my choice), pumping since > 8/03. On glucophage, and other meds. Have neuropathy, PCOS, RLS, ET, > Fibro, and asthma. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2005 Report Share Posted May 20, 2005 Straight surgery on what? ml Ramsey wrote: > > --- Helen Mueller wrote: > > Aaarggghhh! I cannot get past about six hours with > > the mask on. Then > > it loses its adjustment and starts to give me > > raspberries. Wakes me up > > and I start fiddling with the position, the straps, > > to no avail. So I > > pull it off. > > > > Part of the problem is that I am a side sleeper and > > used to burrowing my > > head into the pillow or the cat. Can't do that now, > > and I have to say > > the cat has acclimated a lot better than I. Plus I > > think the mask does > > not fit quite right. > > Helen, I didn't even TRY the mask...I opted straight > for the surgery and it worked. Liz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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