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My only concern with that would be that nipple stimulation can cause

contractions. You should be careful about that. should have more

information on this subject. I think that Brent would definitely do well

with breastmilk. Wait for 's reply. I just don't feel knowledgable

about this.

Wendi

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I have a question. I am seriously thinking about starting to stimulate my

breasts by pumping now. I know that nothing may or may not come out, but I

was just wondering if it is possible. Brent could always drink it instead

of the regular milk and who knows it may give him a lot more(I know it

will)

then what he is getting now. I am also thinking that by the time the new

baby is born I would have the milk ready for her/him. I just had such a

hard time getting it to come with Brent I am willing to do anything. Any

ideas or thoughts?

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>My only concern with that would be that nipple stimulation can cause

>contractions. You should be careful about that. should have more

>information on this subject. I think that Brent would definitely do well

>with breastmilk. Wait for 's reply. I just don't feel knowledgable

>about this.

>

>-----Original Message-----

>

>

>I have a question. I am seriously thinking about starting to stimulate my

>breasts by pumping now. I know that nothing may or may not come out, but I

>was just wondering if it is possible. Brent could always drink it instead

>of the regular milk and who knows it may give him a lot more(I know it

>will)

>then what he is getting now. I am also thinking that by the time the new

>baby is born I would have the milk ready for her/him. I just had such a

>hard time getting it to come with Brent I am willing to do anything. Any

>ideas or thoughts?

>

Pressure`s on! :)

You can try relactating with pumping, but by this time, Brent will have

forgotten how to nurse, so you will rely on pumping. It would be more than

a challenge to do for an otherwise healthy child though, and probably not

worth the results you would have. You might be surprised to find that even

though it has been awhile since you nursed, there is still a little milk

there though, but probably not much.

However, even if you built up a huge supply of breastmilk now, found your

self pregnant two months later, at some point during your pregnancy, your

milk would convert to colostrum again, and not in large quantities.

When you have your next baby, the best way to get your milk supply started

is to nurse early and often. Look for early signs of hunger... like

wakefulness, turning the head side to side, mouthing fists or fingers,

rooting, and lastly, crying. Start nursing as often as your baby is

willing and put something over your clock; it`s not important what time you

start, or how long you nursed from which side -- its important that in one

24 hour period, your baby get enough milk to have lots of wet and poopy

diapers...

However, if you do find yourself pregnant and you have been working on your

supply, or you would like to start pumping after you notice colostrum in

your breasts... as long as your OB has not restricted you from having sex

or orgasm, nipple stimulation isnt likely to cause any problems for your

pregnancy. Many mothers have nursed an older baby through their entire

pregnancy with no bad effects to the unborn baby.

If you do want to try relactating now, let me know. There is a schedule of

sorts that adoptive moms use to kick-start their milk supply before a new

baby arrives. Its grueling.

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I would be interested. However Brent won't nurse. To top it off he is 15

1/2 months with some pretty sharp teeth. I have notice some dried white

substance on both of my breasts within the passed few days. I will ask my

OB about getting my milk stimulated when I see him/her for my next apt.

However, if you have some excursuses or things I can do to help stimulate it

now that would help. I am roughly 13 weeks pregnant now. I would be

interested

> Pressure`s on! :)

>

> You can try relactating with pumping, but by this time, Brent will have

> forgotten how to nurse, so you will rely on pumping. It would be more

than

> a challenge to do for an otherwise healthy child though, and probably not

> worth the results you would have. You might be surprised to find that

even

> though it has been awhile since you nursed, there is still a little milk

> there though, but probably not much.

>

> However, even if you built up a huge supply of breastmilk now, found your

> self pregnant two months later, at some point during your pregnancy, your

> milk would convert to colostrum again, and not in large quantities.

>

> When you have your next baby, the best way to get your milk supply started

> is to nurse early and often. Look for early signs of hunger... like

> wakefulness, turning the head side to side, mouthing fists or fingers,

> rooting, and lastly, crying. Start nursing as often as your baby is

> willing and put something over your clock; it`s not important what time

you

> start, or how long you nursed from which side -- its important that in one

> 24 hour period, your baby get enough milk to have lots of wet and poopy

> diapers...

>

> However, if you do find yourself pregnant and you have been working on

your

> supply, or you would like to start pumping after you notice colostrum in

> your breasts... as long as your OB has not restricted you from having sex

> or orgasm, nipple stimulation isnt likely to cause any problems for your

> pregnancy. Many mothers have nursed an older baby through their entire

> pregnancy with no bad effects to the unborn baby.

>

> If you do want to try relactating now, let me know. There is a schedule

of

> sorts that adoptive moms use to kick-start their milk supply before a new

> baby arrives. Its grueling.

>

>

>

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Could you please send that schedule to me at my personal email. My friend

is thinking about adopting and would really like to breastfeed. She isn't

working so a gruelling schedule she could probably do. She is very

committed so any help would be appreciated.

Wendi

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>My only concern with that would be that nipple stimulation can cause

>contractions. You should be careful about that. should have more

>information on this subject. I think that Brent would definitely do well

>with breastmilk. Wait for 's reply. I just don't feel knowledgable

>about this.

>

>-----Original Message-----

>

>

>I have a question. I am seriously thinking about starting to stimulate my

>breasts by pumping now. I know that nothing may or may not come out, but

I

>was just wondering if it is possible. Brent could always drink it instead

>of the regular milk and who knows it may give him a lot more(I know it

>will)

>then what he is getting now. I am also thinking that by the time the new

>baby is born I would have the milk ready for her/him. I just had such a

>hard time getting it to come with Brent I am willing to do anything. Any

>ideas or thoughts?

>

Pressure`s on! :)

You can try relactating with pumping, but by this time, Brent will have

forgotten how to nurse, so you will rely on pumping. It would be more than

a challenge to do for an otherwise healthy child though, and probably not

worth the results you would have. You might be surprised to find that even

though it has been awhile since you nursed, there is still a little milk

there though, but probably not much.

However, even if you built up a huge supply of breastmilk now, found your

self pregnant two months later, at some point during your pregnancy, your

milk would convert to colostrum again, and not in large quantities.

When you have your next baby, the best way to get your milk supply started

is to nurse early and often. Look for early signs of hunger... like

wakefulness, turning the head side to side, mouthing fists or fingers,

rooting, and lastly, crying. Start nursing as often as your baby is

willing and put something over your clock; it`s not important what time you

start, or how long you nursed from which side -- its important that in one

24 hour period, your baby get enough milk to have lots of wet and poopy

diapers...

However, if you do find yourself pregnant and you have been working on your

supply, or you would like to start pumping after you notice colostrum in

your breasts... as long as your OB has not restricted you from having sex

or orgasm, nipple stimulation isnt likely to cause any problems for your

pregnancy. Many mothers have nursed an older baby through their entire

pregnancy with no bad effects to the unborn baby.

If you do want to try relactating now, let me know. There is a schedule of

sorts that adoptive moms use to kick-start their milk supply before a new

baby arrives. Its grueling.

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I have heard that breast stimulation during pregnancy can lead to

contractions that can lead to early labor. Yet at the same time in my head

I am thinking.. but there are a bunch of tandem nursers in the group:) so

maybe I am wrong. Some imput for those of you who are tandem nursing would

be great! I am interested to hear about you nursing during pregnancy.

I do remember reading breast stimulation for getting yourself to go into

labor. I would be VERY careful. I think the key is for you to get off to

a really good start right after you give birth to this baby. Are you

giving birth at Kaiser on Morse? That is where I had Paige, and they were

very supportive and helped me get her latched on and everything:) Jenn:)

At 01:21 PM 5/30/99 -0700, you wrote:

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>

>

>,

>

>I would be interested. However Brent won't nurse. To top it off he is 15

>1/2 months with some pretty sharp teeth. I have notice some dried white

>substance on both of my breasts within the passed few days. I will ask my

>OB about getting my milk stimulated when I see him/her for my next apt.

>However, if you have some excursuses or things I can do to help stimulate it

>now that would help. I am roughly 13 weeks pregnant now. I would be

>interested

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  • 3 years later...

Jackie has never burst a blood vessel, and she has been seizure free for

about 3 weeks again (whenever we start a kepra reduction, things get wiggly

here). The mystery continues.

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Sorry part two (got distracted).

Jackie has been on kepra for 2 years, and this is her second bout of

depakote. She was on it once but shook so badly that seizure control was not

an option (she could barely walk). She has been on depakote since June 2002,

and when we finish the kepra wean (probably in October at the rate we're

going) we'll tackle depakote. The more we all " speak " the better we all are

(or at least the more informed and can make intelligent decisions).

For those who wonder if any of the stuff we discuss gets back to the medical

community (sorry Chris), I have two cousins who are physicians in New York

one who is a pulmanologist the other in infectous disease specialist. The

one who is the pulmanologist has been seeing some patients who also have

epilepsy and he has been picking my brain over some of the side effects of

the meds. Anyway, we continue onward.

mother of Jackie

age7

kepra and depakote

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Funny you say that, I've noticed that Jake has been getting a bloodshot eye,

one at a time, never both together, almost weekly for maybe the past month

or so. He's been on depakote almost 2 years, but just started Keppra in the

fall. Hmmm....

I was thinking it was a burst blood vessel from seizing....but he's never

done that before. Does Jackie get this also? How long has she been on the

meds?

Barb Swoyer, Jake's mom

a question

> For those people whose kids who are either depakote or a combination, I

have

> a question. Have any of you noticed that the kids seem to get a blood

shot

> eye? If they do, is this because of toxicity? Have been searching the

web,

> but haven't seen anything in official papers on it. Heard from a couple

of

> mother's and am trying to chase this down.

>

> THanks

>

>

> mother of Jackie

> age 7

> kepra and depakote

>

>

>

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Jackie -- I never saw this. But we did have increased nosebleeds and slower

clotting from the reduction in platelets which Depakote can definitely

cause. I wonder if the blood in the eye is from the platelet reduction?

Jane

mom to Leo, 7

9 -months on keto diet

a question

For those people whose kids who are either depakote or a combination, I

have

a question. Have any of you noticed that the kids seem to get a blood

shot

eye? If they do, is this because of toxicity? Have been searching the

web,

but haven't seen anything in official papers on it. Heard from a couple

of

mother's and am trying to chase this down.

THanks

mother of Jackie

age 7

kepra and depakote

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Jackie, others -- We just finished our Depakote wean 5 days ago. It took 8

months! But with every reduction --- even the last quarter -- we saw more

return of the kid! More alertness, more personality, increased sharpness,

etc. Night seizures are still with us -- but, after the initial withdrawal,

they really aren't any worse than they were when he was taking 3 and half

Depakote capsules a night!

Our next move, after we're sure all the Depakote is out of his system, will

be to up the Carnosine to 1000 at night (2000 total).

From what I read, Chez seems to feel that taking up to 3000 is fine. I ran

this by my neuro, who actually did a Medline and Google search on carnosine

toxicity and found nothing, so I guess its worth a try. He also said some

small pilot studies showed that kids on the keto diet may be lacking in

carnitine, so we may start that up again, at a small dose, as well.

At this point, it will be trial-and-error with a lot of supplements --

Coromega (omega-3 fish oil), vitamin E are still on board. We've never had a

night without a seizure immediately after falling asleep, so if one of these

things works, we'll know it!.

Best,

Jane

mom to Leo

ketokid for 9 months

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Sorry part two (got distracted).

Jackie has been on kepra for 2 years, and this is her second bout of

depakote. She was on it once but shook so badly that seizure control was

not

an option (she could barely walk). She has been on depakote since June

2002,

and when we finish the kepra wean (probably in October at the rate we're

going) we'll tackle depakote. The more we all " speak " the better we all

are

(or at least the more informed and can make intelligent decisions).

For those who wonder if any of the stuff we discuss gets back to the

medical

community (sorry Chris), I have two cousins who are physicians in New York

one who is a pulmanologist the other in infectous disease specialist. The

one who is the pulmanologist has been seeing some patients who also have

epilepsy and he has been picking my brain over some of the side effects of

the meds. Anyway, we continue onward.

mother of Jackie

age7

kepra and depakote

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Luke is on 750mg/day of Depakote and his eyes are bloodshot occasionally.

Not sure if Depakote is the cause.

-Al

a question

For those people whose kids who are either depakote or a combination, I have

a question. Have any of you noticed that the kids seem to get a blood shot

eye? If they do, is this because of toxicity? Have been searching the web,

but haven't seen anything in official papers on it. Heard from a couple of

mother's and am trying to chase this down.

THanks

mother of Jackie

age 7

kepra and depakote

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