Photoderm

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Hello,

I lost the email that asked the questions about photoderm....anyway here is

my experience...I have done 7 full face TX's...85% reduction in overall

redness/pinkness. I had extreme redness and flushing...I looked like Dr.

Nase but add my forehead in too! I tried so many cremes, scripts and every

other concoction known to man and nothing would get rid of the redness. I

felt hopeless and couldn't imagine living the rest of my life with my face

blood red and burning pain constantly. Photoderm has been the only TX that I

can honestly say has improved my condition...I still flush if I get really

overheated or super stressed so I am careful to avoid these two triggers and

all is fine. I would encourage anyone that has rosacea this bad to get

photoderm done by a good doctor. This is the hard part...my doc was not so

experienced like Dr. Bitter but open to all my suggestions and since I

couldn't afford (money or time) to fly or drive great distances to be treated

I took my chances and I have no regrets. Also, yes all doc's have you sign

that scar disclaimer prior to TX...I was also upset by this at the time...but

rosacea and it's progressing deforming nature propelled me into taking a

chance...fear of PD or living with the fear of progressing rosacea...each of

us must make our decisions based on what is good for us...PD was a God send

right from the Throne of Glory!

Darlene

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> Has anyone had photoderm in Dallas and can recomend a

> dermatologist ? I have had several Versapulse treatments with

> moderate improvement. Any info appreciated.

I can recommend a good doctor, trained by Dr. Bitter, in Wichita Falls which

is about 2.5 hours drive from Dallas. He is in the process of treating me, I

have had 3 tx so far, and I consider him well worth the drive:

Bert Avery M.D.

Phone:

Address: 4506 Kemp Blvd, Wichita Falls TX

Jim Clary, Dallas TX

photoderm

[Guest guest]

I was also wondering if there is Photoderm in Alabama? I live in Huntsville.

[Guest guest]

Dear Gloria,

I can sympathize with you - and I know exactly how you feel! When I had my

consult with Dr. Jay, he told me to get checked for a systemic disease first

(after I told him I had digestive problems and Reynaud's). I was startled

because he seemed to think this was not common with rosacea (I told him

there are others in this group with the same symptoms). Also he told me

several times " I have done people who's faces were purple and your's is not

that bad. " He thought the rosacea was only a part of a bigger picture. I

was devastated Gloria - I thought for sure I was going to get relief! Mine

might only look like a sunburn, but it sure makes me feel sick! And the

derm I saw before Dr. Jay, who did photoderm, said she mostly did leg veins.

I don't get red on my neck or chest, but I know there have been posts from

others who do. I was really down for days after my appt. with Dr. Jay, but

I am much better now. You will be too. Now I am having lots of tests and

then, if nothing else is found, I will really pursue the photoderm or laser.

I think a number of us are so limited in terms of our lives right now, we

need to do something. I have a consult with a laser surgeon tomorrow. I

think what many of us are finding so frustrating is we are unable to find a

doctor who understands what we are going through and it gives one a hopeless

feeling almost. We are used to having conditions that doctors are able to

fix - and now we seem to have a condition that really stumps them. And no

matter what a doctor tells you, we still don't know the cause or the cure

for this condition. So hang in there, Gloria. By the way, when I told my

psychiatrist about my puzzlement over laser vs. photoderm, he said " did you

hear, they have just come up with a blue laser? " He said a blue laser would

be able to target things much more specifically. It might take some time,

but somehow we will get some help.

All best to you,

Patty

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In a message dated 6-14-00 3:26:04 PM Eastern Daylight Time, mlane63@...

writes:

<< HAVE ANY OF YOU HAD PHOTODERM IF SO PLEASE WRITE ME WHETHER

YOU HAD GOOD RESULTS ALSO PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK YOUR

TOTAL COST WAS

THANKYOU ,MARION

>>

I have had 8 full face TX's with great success...I too can turn my head

up-side down and not flush up!

I have spent about $3000 and also have done several spot TX's included.

Darlene

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Oh n, if you can do this, do it! It's really

helped to give me back my life! I've had 6 full-face

treatments and 1 touch-up (cheeks and nose--those

cheeks are so stubborn), and I'd say my flushing has

been cut down by about 90%. That's not to say I never

flush, but when I do, it's incredibly mild and fades

very quickly. And it's more like " pinking up " than a

full-on red-face flush. The tone of my skin is much

more even now as well--peachy with a little marble of

light pink on my cheeks. Not perfect, but a vast

improvement. I'm about a month out from my last

touch-up, and I continue to improve. I'm going to wait

another 6 weeks and decide whether or not to go ahead

with one more. Knowing myself the way I do, I'm

betting I'll go for one more.

Now, it hasn't done much for the " orange-peel " look of

my cheeks (which, on a more objective day, I know is

pretty mild, comparatively speaking). And photoderm

probably won't do much for the inflammatory papules

(those bumps), though the less you flush, the less

they should appear. For me, PD in combo with Dr. Sy's

Zinc-O have totally given me back my freedom. The

zinc-oxide helps to eradicate thos pesky little bumps

for many of us. If you can use her cream (and I

probably couldn't have before I had a few PD

treatments done), you should try it. She's more than

happy to send out samples. It's a sunscreen, too, and

cover-up. It's nice to be able to do some on-stop

shopping for my skin for a change!

Oh, the most important part: Yes, it is quite pricey.

I paid per treatment, $450 per (but I got a free

touch-up). That's $2700 total. I guess it'll cost me a

little over $3000 by the time I'm done. It's so worth

it, though. Think of it as an investment in your

health and sanity!

Good luck--let us know what you decide to do...

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> WHAT YOU THINK YOUR

> TOTAL COST WAS

> THANKYOU ,MARION

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Hi n,

I've also been having photoderm treatments and they have helped my intense

flushing redness and swelling very much. Best thing I could have done! My

treatments will probably total around $1200cdn. I hope you get the chance

to do it if you can!

Jen

>HAVE ANY OF YOU HAD PHOTODERM IF SO PLEASE WRITE ME WHETHER

>YOU HAD GOOD RESULTS ALSO PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK YOUR

>TOTAL COST WAS

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Judy,

Don't worry too much about the blister post Photoderm. While it may not

happen to all, it certainly has occured with my treatments several times.

Just try to keep the area dry and clean and if it's not healing up as you

think it should, go in and have your doctor check it. I had a huge one on

my chin with treatment #6, and it took a while to heal but did so nicely

(even with Amazing Base on!)

Good Luck with your treatments,

Beth

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I'm a new member to this group. All the information I've been learning is

amazing. My derm just writes a prescription that doesn't help me at all.

I'm really interested in having photoderm done. My face is just red all the

time. No other problems. How do I go about finding a dr that knows what he

is doing? Are there any Drs that have been trained by Dr Bitter in the

Columbus Ohio area? Any help would be greatley appreciated.

Thanks

Pam

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Maybe you could give Dr. Bitter's office a call and ask for some

Bitter

trained derms in your area and then check each one to see who's the

most reasonable. His # is: . Dr. Bitter (sr.) is the

Doctor that first came up with the Photofacial and trains derms all

over. I know what you mean about the cost. I think I'm gonna put it

off 'cause I can't afford it right now. I wish it was a little

more reasonable. Dr. Bitter charges $500 bucks a pop with $200 off a

package of 5 treatments. His son, Dr. Bitter Jr. is EVEN MORE. $550

a

pop and no discount for 5 treatments. I've been hearing from the

girls

at the office that you need to do 5 to get good results and then have

one a year to maintain results. They sure get the big bucks eh? And

one guy posted that it didn't improve his rosacea. Poor guy.That

sucked big time for him. Money, time, hope all down the drain. Most

people at this sight, however, seem to be happy with their results.

Good luck finding somebody affordable. I hope it all works out

beautifully for you. Especially, I hope you're very happy with your

results.

julie