Re: Day 14 Need Encouragement

[Guest guest]

,

There can be weeks of die-off....... and it can also come in cycles. He may

get better for a time, then have more rounds of die-off, off and on. It really

does depend on the individual, though. Depends on the state the gut was in to

start with. The color changes are good signs, according to what Elaine has said

about this in the past...... it means the balance of power is changing down

there! That's an awful lot of muffins..... it would certainly be a good idea to

get some variety, though I understand how hard it can be to introduce new

things. Are you baking them with nut flour? Or nut butters? Are you adding the

veggies and meat to the muffins? Or is it separate? Are you giving some

acidophilus supplements? This is essential ..... as the bad guys die off, you

must have good guys to replace them! Epsom salts baths can help with the

die-off symptoms. I hope you'll not be tempted to go back to the potatoes and

rice any time soon. Just remember that the toxins the bad bacteria were

producing all along are being given off in much bigger quantities as those

organisms bite the dust. Some parents have reported that activated charcoal

supplements (available at health food stores) can also help with the detoxing,

if you could get him to take them (must also have no illegals.... so read

labels). Hang in there!

Patti, mom to Katera

Day 14 Need Encouragement

About a month ago, I put Liam on SCD. He had die-off that included

vomitting for a several days. We even had a " trophy " .

Unfortunately, a couple of days after that I took my DAN!

practitioner's advice and took him off, adding only potatoes and

rice. No more " trophy's " .

We are back on the diet, day 14. On our second day we had

a " trophy " . We have not had one since. We have seen many colours

and it has been four. His behaviour has been really bad and he has

quite a few rashes all over him. He is stimming like I haven't seen

in a LONG time. I don't know if I should try going back to the

intro-diet or just continue the way I am going. He will only eat

muffins with some kind of meat, bananas and squash. We are at about

dozen or two muffins a day.

Does anyone have any advice or encouragement? I feel like I'm going

to lose my mind. Is it going to get better soon? (I know it's a

roller coaster ride, but when does it do up?)

, Mom to Liam age 34 months, ASD, SCD 14 days.

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com

[Guest guest]

Hang in there, friend. There are so many ups and downs, but it is

really worth it to stick to the diet. I believe doing the intro

would probably be good. He might be struggling with yeast, as my son

gets rashy with yeast overgrowth. But, intro would probably be good,

then slowly starting on yogurt. Just my guess...

It does seem to get worse before it gets better.

Love,

Tina

>

> About a month ago, I put Liam on SCD. He had die-off that included

> vomitting for a several days. We even had a " trophy " .

> Unfortunately, a couple of days after that I took my DAN!

> practitioner's advice and took him off, adding only potatoes and

> rice. No more " trophy's " .

>

> We are back on the diet, day 14. On our second day we had

> a " trophy " . We have not had one since. We have seen many colours

> and it has been four. His behaviour has been really bad and he has

> quite a few rashes all over him. He is stimming like I haven't

seen

> in a LONG time. I don't know if I should try going back to the

> intro-diet or just continue the way I am going. He will only eat

> muffins with some kind of meat, bananas and squash. We are at

about

> dozen or two muffins a day.

>

> Does anyone have any advice or encouragement? I feel like I'm

going

> to lose my mind. Is it going to get better soon? (I know it's a

> roller coaster ride, but when does it do up?)

>

> , Mom to Liam age 34 months, ASD, SCD 14 days.

[Guest guest]

" We are at about dozen or two muffins a day. "

What are these muffins made out of exactly and what size

muffins are you referring to? Regular ones or mini-sized ones?

One to two dozen regular sized muffins per day made from nut

butter/ nut flour is way too many.

Jody

mom to -5 and -8

SCD 21 months

[Guest guest]

>Hi Patti,

The muffins are only meat, banana, squash and egg. I have not been

adding any flours. The muffings would consist of two cups of meat,

two bananas and a cup of squash (I have often changed the bananas to

applesauce and zucchini), a teaspoon of baking soda and possibly two

eggs.

I have him on the UDO probiotics. Now that I think of it, is

microcrystalline cellulose legal? I am giving him an epsom salts

bath every night (one to two cups of salts).

The other problem, of course, is getting his supplements into him.

It's hard to hide them in the muffins.

Thank you for your input. I'm feeling better already this morning.

,

> There can be weeks of die-off....... and it can also come in

cycles. He may get better for a time, then have more rounds of die-

off, off and on. It really does depend on the individual, though.

Depends on the state the gut was in to start with. The color changes

are good signs, according to what Elaine has said about this in the

past...... it means the balance of power is changing down there!

That's an awful lot of muffins..... it would certainly be a good

idea to get some variety, though I understand how hard it can be to

introduce new things. Are you baking them with nut flour? Or nut

butters? Are you adding the veggies and meat to the muffins? Or is

it separate? Are you giving some acidophilus supplements? This is

essential ..... as the bad guys die off, you must have good guys to

replace them! Epsom salts baths can help with the die-off symptoms.

I hope you'll not be tempted to go back to the potatoes and rice any

time soon. Just remember that the toxins the bad bacteria were

producing all along are being given off in much bigger quantities as

those organisms bite the dust. Some parents have reported that

activated charcoal supplements (available at health food stores) can

also help with the detoxing, if you could get him to take them (must

also have no illegals.... so read labels). Hang in there!

>

> Patti, mom to Katera

> Day 14 Need Encouragement

>

>

>

> About a month ago, I put Liam on SCD. He had die-off that

included

> vomitting for a several days. We even had a " trophy " .

> Unfortunately, a couple of days after that I took my DAN!

> practitioner's advice and took him off, adding only potatoes and

> rice. No more " trophy's " .

>

> We are back on the diet, day 14. On our second day we had

> a " trophy " . We have not had one since. We have seen many

colours

> and it has been four. His behaviour has been really bad and he

has

> quite a few rashes all over him. He is stimming like I haven't

seen

> in a LONG time. I don't know if I should try going back to the

> intro-diet or just continue the way I am going. He will only

eat

> muffins with some kind of meat, bananas and squash. We are at

about

> dozen or two muffins a day.

>

> Does anyone have any advice or encouragement? I feel like I'm

going

> to lose my mind. Is it going to get better soon? (I know it's

a

> roller coaster ride, but when does it do up?)

>

> , Mom to Liam age 34 months, ASD, SCD 14 days.

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read

the book _Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read

the following websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Does your son like popcicles? I have found that Jaden will eat

ALMOST anything frozen like a popcicle. I have done carrots, acorn

squash, butternut squash, applesauce, and pearsauce so far. I just

cook, puree, and add a bit of honey to the veggies. At least it adds

some variety. We are only at day 11, so I'm not too experienced with

anything else. Good luck! We're right there with you!

Mom to Jaden 2years 10months, SCD 11 days

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

> I have him on the UDO probiotics. Now that I think of it, is

> microcrystalline cellulose legal? I am giving him an epsom salts

> bath every night (one to two cups of salts).

When I went to the UDO webpage

http://www.florahealth.com/flora/home/international/products/tg8.asp

the probiotics listed all contained some illegal bacterial strains.

Elaine only suggests using Lactobacillus acidophilus in a probiotic

supplement. Bifidum bacteria tend to overgrowth when supplemented.

Some legal probiotics can be found at

http://pecanbread.com/probiotics.html#brands

The microcrystalline cellulose is legal.

Sheila 45 mos SCD, 20 yrs UC

mom of SCD 30 mos

[Guest guest]

> >Hi Patti,

>

> The muffins are only meat, banana, squash and egg. I have not

been

> adding any flours. The muffings would consist of two cups of

meat,

> two bananas and a cup of squash (I have often changed the

bananas to

> applesauce and zucchini), a teaspoon of baking soda and possibly

two

> eggs.

>

> I have him on the UDO probiotics. Now that I think of it, is

> microcrystalline cellulose legal? I am giving him an epsom salts

> bath every night (one to two cups of salts).

>

> The other problem, of course, is getting his supplements into

him.

> It's hard to hide them in the muffins.

>

> Thank you for your input. I'm feeling better already this

morning.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> >Hi Patti,

>

> The muffins are only meat, banana, squash and egg. I have not

been

> adding any flours. The muffings would consist of two cups of

meat,

> two bananas and a cup of squash (I have often changed the

bananas to

> applesauce and zucchini), a teaspoon of baking soda and possibly

two

> eggs.

>

> I have him on the UDO probiotics. Now that I think of it, is

> microcrystalline cellulose legal? I am giving him an epsom salts

> bath every night (one to two cups of salts).

>

> The other problem, of course, is getting his supplements into

him.

> It's hard to hide them in the muffins.

>

> Thank you for your input. I'm feeling better already this

morning.

>

>

>

>

>

>