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thanks...yeah doesn't take much to plan ahead actually...I did tell him italian was out luckily he hate that out...he only likes mine and my moms...lol

Licienne

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It's great that you're planning ahead, Licienne! It sounds like you'll have a great dinner and a nice celebration tonight. Donna> OK we are going out for my son's 18th birthday tonight...and he wants to do that japanese steak house thing....so I figure that's fairly easy if I get...> > the chicken or steak they always give you a shrimp appetizer(everything is grilled persay) and tell them instead of rice I want extra veggies I figure the soup is ok it's basically broth and the salad I'll ask w/out dressing and bring my own....> > OK so does that sound like phase 1 enough ?> > LicienneReminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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I would not suggest going off. That would mean drinks, starches, fried

appetizers and dessert.

I don't think there are very many places to go out to dinner where you know

EVERYTHING that goes into your food. I think that whatever eating plan

people are on, it needs to be workable for their life styles. I bet there

will be salt and sugars in this meal but I doubt I would want to stay home

for my sons 18 b day. That would make me want to spend lots of time on the

beach. JMO

-Beth

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> > OK we are going out for my son's 18th birthday tonight...and

> > he wants to do that japanese steak house thing....so I figure

> > that's fairly easy if I get...

> >

> > the chicken or steak they always give you a shrimp appetizer

> > (everything is grilled persay) and tell them instead of rice I

> > want extra veggies I figure the soup is ok it's basically broth

> > and the salad I'll ask w/out dressing and bring my own....

> >

> > OK so does that sound like phase 1 enough ?

>

> You'd probably be better off either not going or going off the diet for

> dinner. ;)

>

> 1) Find out if the meat has been

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we have been to this place before and they use lite soy and the meats are not marinaded and the veggies are all SB ok....I won't be using the dipping sauces and I mentioned i was bringing my own dressing for the salad...and they use canola oil for the stir frying....and it's not an onion soup only a clear broth that wasn't at all salty if anything it sure needed it...lol

Licienne

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> OK we are going out for my son's 18th birthday tonight...and> he wants to do that japanese steak house thing....so I figure > that's fairly easy if I get...> > the chicken or steak they always give you a shrimp appetizer> (everything is grilled persay) and tell them instead of rice I> want extra veggies I figure the soup is ok it's basically broth> and the salad I'll ask w/out dressing and bring my own....>> OK so does that sound like phase 1 enough ?You'd probably be better off either not going or going off the diet fordinner. ;)1) Find out if the meat has been marinaded before being brought out.2) Find out what kind of soy sauce they're using -- many add sugar. 3) According to the official guidelines, you're only supposed to get 1/2tbsp of soy sauce in a meal during phase 1 -- you'll definitely get morethan that at a Japanese steakhouse. :4) Watch out for any terriyaki sauce (also has added sugar).5) These meals typicaly have a bunch of salt -- LOTS.6) The salad will have a sauce on it that has sugar added.7) The soup may have added sugar and, if it's an onion soup, will likelyhave something breaded or starchy in it.8) The dinner sauces will have added sugar and/or ketchup (which has sugar).9) You'll need to look at the veggies to determine if they're all phase 1friendly.10) Many Japanese steakhouses use butter in the cooking process -- this isnot phase 1 friendly.11) These meals are prepared with ample oil (usually sesame oil). While theselection of oil is ok, the amount will not be so.You'll need to tell the restaurant that you have special dietary needs andask that your meal be prepared separately from the other folks at yourtable, so much so that it's off on the side and away from your tablemates'foods (otherwise, some of the sauces and such from their meal will end up inyour meal).FWIW....Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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Regarding my post below:

The last sentence should read... " that would make me NOT want to spend to

much time on the beach!

(sorry)

-Berth

-Beth

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>

> >

> > > OK we are going out for my son's 18th birthday tonight...and

> > > he wants to do that japanese steak house thing....so I figure

> > > that's fairly easy if I get...

> > >

> > > the chicken or steak they always give you a shrimp appetizer

> > > (everything is grilled persay) and tell them instead of rice I

> > > want extra veggies I figure the soup is ok it's basically broth

> > > and the salad I'll ask w/out dressing and bring my own....

> > >

> > > OK so does that sound like phase 1 enough ?

> >

> > You'd probably be better off either not going or going off the diet for

> > dinner. ;)

> >

> > 1) Find out if the meat has been

>

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I never said I was going off the diet and eating fried that's for sure...it's a steak house not chinese food where it's really smoothered with sauces usually....bascially only having lite soy on my things and that's it...I don't drink anything but water anyway and rarely eat dessert to begin with...that's one good habit...lol......

Licienne

RE: little question>> > OK we are going out for my son's 18th birthday tonight...and> > he wants to do that japanese steak house thing....so I figure> > that's fairly easy if I get...> >> > the chicken or steak they always give you a shrimp appetizer> > (everything is grilled persay) and tell them instead of rice I> > want extra veggies I figure the soup is ok it's basically broth> > and the salad I'll ask w/out dressing and bring my own....> >> > OK so does that sound like phase 1 enough ?>> You'd probably be better off either not going or going off the diet for> dinner. ;)>> 1) Find out if the meat has beenReminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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> I would not suggest going off. That would mean drinks,

> starches, fried appetizers and dessert.

That's why I put the ;) at the end of the line. Thing is though, if she

DOES stay true to the diet she'll have one heck of a time eating at a

Japanese steakhouse.

> I don't think there are very many places to go out to dinner

> where you know EVERYTHING that goes into your food.

You can if you're persistent about it.

> I think

> that whatever eating plan people are on, it needs to be

> workable for their life styles. I bet there will be salt and

> sugars in this meal but I doubt I would want to stay home for

> my sons 18 b day. That would make me want to spend lots of

> time on the beach.

Licienne is on phase 1 -- that's not the time to look for this kind of

flexibility. Is it inconvenient? Well sure -- but it's only for 2 weeks

and then things loosen up a bit. I'd wager her son would understand if she

asked him to pick some place that has a good salad bar. If not, she could

always do what my wife did -- dump the diet and start over. We just went

through 3 days of birthdays for my little girl (ours, maternal grandparents,

paternal grandparents) and she couldn't wrap her mind around not eating cake

at the party. So, she stopped the diet after 3 days and will be restarting

it this weekend. I was on phase 2 by that point so I just cheated and had a

small piece of cake at each party.

Phase 3 offers the kind of flexibility that allows folks to eat in a way

that works for their lifestyle but one must go through the earlier stages to

get there.

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No way! Eating a Japanese Steak house is the easiest place to eat at!!! They

cook the food right infront of you-how can it get any easier? Just let them know

how you want it prepared-I've eaten out many times since being on SBD at Hibachi

houses and have never had a problem.

You'll watch them cook the food right in front of you-so don't worry about a

thing. Just mentally prepare yourself to stay away from the rice and fried ice

cream.

Have fun tonight!!

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I was not addressing that to you...there was another post that did suggest you go off the diet and that was my response to THAT post, NOT yours.

-Beth

RE: little question>> > OK we are going out for my son's 18th birthday tonight...and> > he wants to do that japanese steak house thing....so I figure> > that's fairly easy if I get...> >> > the chicken or steak they always give you a shrimp appetizer> > (everything is grilled persay) and tell them instead of rice I> > want extra veggies I figure the soup is ok it's basically broth> > and the salad I'll ask w/out dressing and bring my own....> >> > OK so does that sound like phase 1 enough ?>> You'd probably be better off either not going or going off the diet for> dinner. ;)>> 1) Find out if the meat has beenReminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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ahhhhhhhhhhhhh ok...cause it was on the same thread that's why I responded I had asked the question that started it...lol

Licienne

RE: little question>> > OK we are going out for my son's 18th birthday tonight...and> > he wants to do that japanese steak house thing....so I figure> > that's fairly easy if I get...> >> > the chicken or steak they always give you a shrimp appetizer> > (everything is grilled persay) and tell them instead of rice I> > want extra veggies I figure the soup is ok it's basically broth> > and the salad I'll ask w/out dressing and bring my own....> >> > OK so does that sound like phase 1 enough ?>> You'd probably be better off either not going or going off the diet for> dinner. ;)>> 1) Find out if the meat has beenReminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8 Reminder: The South Beach Diet is not low-carb. Nor is it low-fat. The South Beach Diet teaches you to rely on the right carbs and the right fats-the good ones - and enables you to live quite happily without the bad carbs and bad fats. For more on this Way Of Eating please read "The South Beach Diet" by Arthur Agatston, MD. ISBN 1-57954-814-8

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