: SU & dble cervix (preg, m/c ment)

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Hi again, !

I just wanted to say thank you for your response. I hope I didn't

sound insensitive...asking questions about m/c when you have had to

suffer through them yourself. I am so sorry for your loss, but am

also so happy for your blessing...little Sol-!

No, you didn't freak me out really, I was just curious. I figured it

was usually a first trimester thing due to lack of blood

supply/septum. I just wasn't sure. Thank you for answering my

question! From what I remember in my early stages of the first

pregnancy, implantation appeared to be near the top of the septum in

the right uterus. So, maybe it IS UD since there shoul be more blood

supply in a UD septum, right? ISn't it supposedly more vascular

since it is more like a " normal " uterine wall...just fused back to

back with the other uterus?? Wow, I am so technical with my

terminology...hahaha! You know what I mean, though. Anyway, in one

sense, I guess it DOESN " T matter what 'category' I am in, SU or UD or

BU or whatever, since I HAVE been lucky enough to have one baby and

one on the way. I just feel like I have to know sometimes for my own

knowledge.

By the way, what does it mean when you say that " both cervices

communicate with both sides of my uterus " ? I have been meaning to

ask that question for a while.

As for my OB, yes, he is pretty set in his ways, so to speak. I

think he is one of those with a complex, you know, he is always right

and therefore closes his mind to new findings. I WAS in Ontario back

in 2001 before Peyton was born. However, we moved that September to

Memphis, TN (my husband is the Canadian one, he plays hockey and he

had signed with a team here).

Anyway, , I really do appreciate your help and hope all is

well with you and the baby. This site has helped me stay sane over

the past several years, even though my OB dreads when I say " well, I

know a girl from my group who has..... " haha

Neal

fused UD?

edd 11-28-03

mom to Peyton, 11-26-03

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> > Hi, . I just was reading your post about SU bicollis and

> >surgery where you talked about how common it is to m/c with SU. Do

> >you know the stats as far as when in the pregnancy it USUALLY

> >happens? I mean, is it a first trimester or second trimester

> >occurrence?>

>

> Hi ,

> Miscarraige with SU usually occurs in the first trimester. Once

you are out

> of the 1st trimester in a pregnancy with unresected SU things are

generally

> fine - we have had several members here with uneventful pregnancies

and full

> septums ( being one of the most recent, and there are

others). It's

> the implantation on the non-vascular septum that causes the high

incidence

> of m/c in the early weeks. My losses were at 12 weeks (but the

pregnancy

> had not developed past 10 weeks) and 8 weeks (again, development

had been

> lagging).

>

> <? What if implantation occurs

> >on the outer uterine wall? >

>

> In this case, m/c is not a risk.

>

> I hope I didn't freak you out becasue you are uncertain as to

whether you

> are UD or SU bicollis? Please try not to be worried (which is

hard, I know)

> - you have a proven history of live birth and are already doing

great with

> this pregnancy. I looked at your US pics from your first

pregnancy, and I

> would say it looks similar to the fused UD that both and

have

> been dx with. But that's just my personal, non-medical opinion!

My uterine

> septum was 3/4 the length of my uterus, and " both cervices

communicate with

> both sides of my uterus " (before and after surgery). In 's

case,

> another member here with SU bicollis, her uterine septum was full

length.

> I don't know if you remember Gabi, she is a (non-active) member

who gave

> birth last year. She has either fused UD or SU bicollis also - she

is not

> 100% sure either.

> I also read your message about your ignorant OB. That is too bad -

he sure

> sounds like he has no clue. Unfortunately this is common with many

OB's who

> have only learned ancient text book examples of MA's that are not

up to

> date.

> I saw a RE at Women's Health Centre in Vancouver, B.C. Canada (you

are in

> Ontario, aren't you?) at the Recurrent Pregnancy Loss Clinic - I

was

> referred by my OB who admitted I was well beyond her scope of

knowledge.

> This RE discovered my dx of SU bicollis and told me I was the only

case out

> there - but my research and this group has proven her otherwise.

> Anyways, I think anything is possible - but try not to worry too

much. You

> are doing really wonderful! And no question is stupid on this

list ;O - you

> answered lots of questions for me when I first joined this group a

couple of

> years ago.

> Take care,

>

> SU resected, bicollis, mom to Sol- 4/14/03

>

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Hi -

I figured it

> was usually a first trimester thing due to lack of blood

> supply/septum. I just wasn't sure. Thank you for answering my

> question!

Just wanted to chime in....my septum caused a late second trimester

loss (23 weeks) due to PTL. Since none of us knew I had the septum

at the time, I can't say what specific aspect of it caused the

labor. I honestly think that the baby just got too big for that one

side and the septum was so large that it prevented him from reaching

the other side. The placenta was attached on the outside wall and

not on/near the septum.

There are only a few of us who experienced this late loss (3 that I

know of) but PTL is definitely a risk with unresected septums.

Earlier losses are more common.

Good luck with your pregnancy and as you seek a definitive

diagnosis. Feel free to ask any other questions you may have!

Cyn, 37

SU resected x2

ttc