Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Hey I dont know if we have done a sun damage survey but........... count me in on the sun damage I had gotten sun poison at least 5 times since i was 10 years old ,vacations with family, and even on purpose laying out in the sun with baby oil !!!! oh the 80's how could we not know )-: KAREN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Angie-- I just had to pipe in here, because my own rosacea (don't you just hate calling somthing like this your own?!) first appeared after a particularly bad sunburn when I was 16. I'd had a history of not protecting my skin well in the sun, though, prior to that initial episode, so I'm sure that my skin was thus primed for a condition like rosacea. Unfortunately, because I was a teen-ager, I was told it was just some acne and I'd " grow out of it. " That's it--no warnings about sun overexposure (in fact, I was told sun exposure was GOOD for my alleged acne). So I didn't really change my sun protection practices much. My skin did clear after about a year and it didn't seem to be much of a problem until I moved out here to California. The sun seems to be much stronger out here, and my rosacea kicked in again full-force. I still figured it was adult acne, though I didn't really get pimples, just lots of bumps and discomfort. Eventually, I noticed that flare-ups coincided with sun exposure, but by this time, by skin was so compromised that I couldn't wear sunscreens comfortably. I went to my doctor because I was convinced that I had some sort of sun-induced allergy--that was the only other thing I could think of. Didn't really know about rosacea then. So while there are certainly many factors that may be at the root of any one person's rosacea, sun exposure must be in there for most people. It was very much directly related to mine. And for someone with fair skin and freckles, I should've known better! I'm hoping now that I can at least arrest--if not reverse--the years of photodamage I've allowed to happen, and not just on my face. By the way: I just read about a study that was examining the effect of free-radical fighters such as beta carotene and Vitamin E in decreasing sun-induced erythema (sunburn) in fair-skinned patients. The results appear promising. I'll post more on the article later--don't have it in front of me at the moment. __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Hi Angie! That is EXACTLY the way my rosacea seemed to start! And although I was a prime candidate in terms of complexion and ancestry, I wasn't in terms of age - I was only 20. When I was 19 I started sun tanning for the first time in my life, because it was kind of expected of you if you wanted to be one of the " cool " people. Otherwise you were a pale geek! I got a lot of bad burns, largely because I thought that was what you had to do to really tan. Then in my 2nd year of solar abuse I noticed something didn't look quite right with my complexion. My eye area seemed to not be tanning. And then after one final sun burn, my face stayed definitely red and unevenly colored forever. Other members of my family have very mild traces of the typical rosacea pattern, and they also have had a history of sun exposure. Since then after learning a bit about the damage that UV light can do to the skin's collagen, I wondered - couldn't it also damage blood vessels? After all, the blood vessels themselves are partially composed of collagen. At 02:05 PM 7/28/00 -0600, you wrote: >Dear Everyone, > I must be in a writing mood, today. .... Actually, it is one thing >that I love to do.....and being in the privacy of my home....(although I >loved writing before).....I have no-one staring at my face! I use to >work for a Dairy Queen for about four years in Washington State....and >my boss was so unintelligent & damn rude about the redness of my face -- >which came from the heat filtering from the kitchen. > It took me about five miles to drive to work & I had the a/c going full >blast....but that coolness & paleness of my face - once I had walked in >the door - only lasted a very, very short time! Then, I was ridiculed >by such a useless man! He use to smoke about 30 cigarettes per day. He >claimed to of been to Europe with the Armed Forces - but I doubted that >- or else he would of had some slight knowledge of cea back >then......so many people have it now - that it is actually so common to >see - that the majority of people take this for granted & donot know >that they even have it. > > Something that came to light this morning, or was jarred by cea >sufferer, Rory, jogged my memory of something that I had meant to >mention.....regarding the " onset " of " my " cea....... > > I read an article, recently published by Dr. J. Leffell, a >dermatologist, professor of dermatology & plastic surgery, and >researcher at Yale University in New Haven, Conn. He said and I quote, > " In fact, some say exposure to the sun may be at the root of this skin >disorder. We think this is a sun-related disorder because we almost > " never " see it in patients " without " skin-damage to their skin " . >Hyperion will publish his new book: Total Skin, " in spring 2000. > >How is that:- for being, finally, on the right track(for >some)......plus, I note, that he is a reseatcher at Yale - making him >much more up-to-date?? This is " exactly " how my own cea >began.....and continued! >I feel & think that some dermatologists need to go back to school for >this mysterious complaint.....because so many times I have been handed >the standard line...... " that is is your heritage & age.....You were a >prime candidate.! " I still know plenty of people in the U.K. with my >colouring (but without the continual sun burn) that " do not " have >cea. > > Enough said, I rest my case.....Good Luck to All. Angie. > > > >----------------------------------------------------------------- >Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole >group. See http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html > >When replying, please delete all text at the end of your email that isn't >necessary for your message. > >To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 Oh yeah. I have been tanning religiously since; well, ever. My mom was always sunbathing, so I as well, even as a very young child was amazed at how my skin would get darker and darker and darker. I have used accelerators and that oh-so-popular iodine and baby oil for several years. My skin tans very easily and I was always the darkest of all my friends. Used to enjoy that first good sunburn, as this would help me tan better throughout the year! How crazy. Yes, I am a suntan abuser. Ironic that my best friend who absolutely hated the sun because her skin was so fair still has that beautiful fair skin and my darkened and weathered skin bares the red marks that will live forever as a " suntan legacy " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 I too have to pipe up here, just to throw some conflict into the situation. I developed rosacea at about 22/23. I live in northern Australia where the sun is really really strong. I have always protected my skin from the sun. Never sunbaked and only ever went into the sun with sunscreen, make-up and a hat. I can only remember once having a sun-burn - on my back but definately never on my face. In Australia we are really sun conscious because of the incidence of cancer here - the highest rate of skin cancer in the world!!! So I guess for me my rosacea isn't sun related. My skin definately isn't sun damaged. In face on areas not affected by roascea it is really beautiful skin!! I also am fair but have italian ancestory so have a olvish tint to my skin. Once again, rosacea is proving to be so individual. Cheers Tracey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 I am now haunted by the memory of being at a beach house in Delaware when I was about 16. I was just back from a day with my friend at the beach and we were all burnt and happy and thinking about the lifeguards we'd met. In the living room sat my mom's very pale friend (who I didn't like anyway) who liked to dish out advice and told me in no uncertain terms that I was ruining my great skin...and now here I am! As depressing as it is, it's funny too. This crotchety woman was, of course, right, as they too often are. Anyway, this would be another Yes response on the sun damage survey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2000 Report Share Posted July 28, 2000 I hate going in the sun and never had had a sunburn in my life. My skin is thick and olive toned. I have rosacea and probably have had it since I was a teenager, so I don't think that sun damage enters into the picture for me. It may be true for others, but I think my rosacea started out due to other factors for me. Other possible causes of rosacea, including overexposure to UV light, are laid out in one of Dr. Nase's messages in the archives. Matija Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 Well the alarm bells are certainly clanging in my head - and to think I was blaming the chickenpox for starting my rosacea off. I spent my first 24 years on the beaches in Australia. Hours upon hours in the surf as a competitive surf swimmer. Although I was very aware of sun damage leading to skin cancer, etc, I resisted suncream as much as possible as a teen because I thought it was uncool (what a moron I was!!). Too late, I started slathering it on at around 19 but now at age 31 it is very clear that the damage is going to be severe. I now live in the Australian Snowy Mountains and my poor face is SO sensitive to sunlight at altitude. I'm just thankful that the rosacea has only decided to plague my face and eyes and not my entire body. Though sometimes I think that nothing could be worse than the pain in my eyes. e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 Yes I too have skin damage! I grew up in S.F. We lived on those beaches. I know S.F. is famous for its fog but you can get burned just as easily with the salt water and filtered sun. I too used the iodine and baby oil. We didnt have sunscreens in those days either. I also got sun stroke when I was a teen ager. I tanned beautifully all over except my face. It always burned and peeled. I sure wish I had known better then. Bobbye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2000 Report Share Posted July 29, 2000 me too, i look at my mother who is a sun worshiper and her skin, though she does not have rosacea, its like leather. i now never leave the house without a hat. the best thing we all can do is keep taking to each other sharing ideas adn encourgagement. i look forward to the emails every morning. > Oh yeah. I have been tanning religiously since; well, ever. My mom was > always sunbathing, so I as well, even as a very young child was amazed at how > my skin would get darker and darker and darker. I have used accelerators and > that oh-so-popular iodine and baby oil for several years. My skin tans very > easily and I was always the darkest of all my friends. Used to enjoy that > first good sunburn, as this would help me tan better throughout the year! > How crazy. Yes, I am a suntan abuser. Ironic that my best friend who > absolutely hated the sun because her skin was so fair still has that > beautiful fair skin and my darkened and weathered skin bares the red marks > that will live forever as a " suntan legacy " > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Please read the list highlights thoroughly before posting to the whole group. See http://rosacea.ii.net/toc.html > > When replying, please delete all text at the end of your email that isn't necessary for your message. > > To leave the list send an email to rosacea-support-unsubscribeegroups Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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