Alzheimer's surge predicted

[Guest guest]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3161523.stm

Alzheimers is becoming epidemic according to a BBC Online article...

flu shots maybe?

[Guest guest]

I had read that flu shots are now the only vaccines that are still

being manufactured with mercury. I would think they are definately a

contributing factor.

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> > flu shots maybe?

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[Guest guest]

It's hard to know what else still contains thimerosal-- the CDC

website says that there are a few that have trace amounts and the

package inserts still say that some have thimerosal, although the

manufacturer says the insert is outdated and up for revising... if

anyone finds out more as to whether or not any of the HepB's, Hib's

or Dtap's still contain even a teensy tinsy amount of thimerosal, let

us know...

W

> I had read that flu shots are now the only vaccines that are still

> being manufactured with mercury. I would think they are definately

a

> contributing factor.

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[Guest guest]

Tetanus /Diptheria (TD) shots have ONLY mercury in them.

Re: Alzheimer's surge predicted

> I had read that flu shots are now the only vaccines that are still

> being manufactured with mercury. I would think they are definately a

> contributing factor.

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> > > Alzheimers is becoming epidemic according to a BBC Online

> article...

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> > > flu shots maybe?

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[Guest guest]

, and OC,

Regarding the costs the article mentioned, most people who haven't had

personal experience with Alzheimers just think the issue is loss of memory,

but these people become very difficult to care for. (My father dislocated

a nurse's shoulder once, for instance.) I would estimate that his

physical care cost us (non-reimbursable not covered by Medicare or

insurance) somewhere between $45- $60,000 a year (and not counting my

travel costs, or time, which were considerable). I had heard that figure

before on the Alzheimers list, but I didn't want to believe it and didn't

believe it until I had to pay the bills! Multiply that by 16 million

people, and think about how many years it takes for the condition to kill

you, and you can see the potential for crisis in America in this regards!

OC--I just read your reply that spoke about the financial devastation to

your friends...I'm so sorry. I also had the retirement center call Adult

Protective Services on us, but let me tell why and how this happened, and

how it resolved.

The life-care community where my father lived had spent a lot of their

capital building a new assisted living wing, but they were not offering

anywhere near sufficient services for anyone who was not completely

self-sufficient, so of course, nobody was willing to move into this wing.

(The fee you paid for the apartment monthly was the same as for a tiny one

bedroom efficiency in the assisted living wing.) The retirement community

needed to get capital by reselling the apartments where the residents lived

to new clients, so they figured out a tactic to force people to move by

refusing to honor ANY special diets in the apartment wing: that included

heart-healthy diets, diabetic diets, and yes, the g/f c/f diet that kept my

father cogent.

We didn't know about this change until suddenly, we lost my father

entirely, for they started to put gravy on his meat and that sort of

thing. He ended up being found in the middle of the night, stark naked,

wandering six floors down from his apartment with no idea who he was or

where he belonged. This prompted the managers to call Adult Protective

Services and get them to force us into providing 24-hour care in his

apartment until we could get him moved into the nursing home. (At least

then he could be g/f c/f!) In four days back on the diet, he woke up, just

like he had been in a dream. At that point, after seeing this rapid

decline in my father on just losing the g/f c/f diet, I would have put my

father in front of a firing squad before I would have let him live in the

nursing home without benefit of the diet and epsom salts!.

Daddy's doctor for many years had seen the improvements with her own two

eyes and was terribly sympathetic with our dilemma, but her hands were

tied, because she could not continue to be his doctor if he moved into the

nursing home. Her practice was too busy for her to make nursing home

visits. So, while we were being forced to pay $250 a day for nursing costs

in his apartment, we searched for a doctor who would read the literature I

had collected and be willing to write up doctors orders for both diet and

epsom salts. It took us a month, and we found a wonderful doctor, but

after that point, I became powerless in being SURE this procedure was

implemented correctly by the nurse's aides and staff, and it often

wasn't. But, after it all shook out, Adult Protective Services was on our

side of assessing blame in this situation to the management! But, he was

still having to live in something that looked like a hospital...totally

inappropriate care.

By the way, I don't think we can blame flu shots in his case for his

dementia. He spent years downing huge quantities of aluminum in the form

of Maalox, because he had GI issues for a great part of his middle

years. He also had B12 deficiency...something that should have been

supplemented after he had two stomach resections due to ulcers, but this

obvious need was completely overlooked by his former doctors who actively

scorned nutritional issues and approaches. That's why I " fired " his old

doctors and found the woman doctor who was willing to read the literature,

and act accordingly.

At 08:48 AM 8/19/2003 +0200, you wrote:

>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3161523.stm

>

>Alzheimers is becoming epidemic according to a BBC Online article...

>

>flu shots maybe?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Also check out the University of Calgary web site

http://movies.commons.ucalgary.ca/mercury/

This web site specifically shows how mercury effects the brain. Can you say

mercury amalgams?

Autopsy studies available for 15 years now show there is a direct

scientifically accepted and proven correlation between the amount of mercury

in the brain at autopsy and the number of silver/mercury amalgam surfaces on

the teeth.

Everyone should have their amalgams out, but slowly and intelligently.

And then everyone should be chelated for mercury and other heavy metals.

Flu shots(thimerosal) can play a role in alzheimers, so can pesticides,so

can aluminum, so can

replacement of older amalgam fillings with new amalgam fillings.

From: Owens <lwo@...>

>Reply-

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>Subject: Re: [ ] Alzheimer's surge predicted

>Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2003 12:22:08 -0500

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>, and OC,

>

>Regarding the costs the article mentioned, most people who haven't had

>personal experience with Alzheimers just think the issue is loss of memory,

>but these people become very difficult to care for. (My father dislocated

>a nurse's shoulder once, for instance.) I would estimate that his

>physical care cost us (non-reimbursable not covered by Medicare or

>insurance) somewhere between $45- $60,000 a year (and not counting my

>travel costs, or time, which were considerable). I had heard that figure

>before on the Alzheimers list, but I didn't want to believe it and didn't

>believe it until I had to pay the bills! Multiply that by 16 million

>people, and think about how many years it takes for the condition to kill

>you, and you can see the potential for crisis in America in this regards!

>

>OC--I just read your reply that spoke about the financial devastation to

>your friends...I'm so sorry. I also had the retirement center call Adult

>Protective Services on us, but let me tell why and how this happened, and

>how it resolved.

>

>The life-care community where my father lived had spent a lot of their

>capital building a new assisted living wing, but they were not offering

>anywhere near sufficient services for anyone who was not completely

>self-sufficient, so of course, nobody was willing to move into this wing.

>(The fee you paid for the apartment monthly was the same as for a tiny one

>bedroom efficiency in the assisted living wing.) The retirement community

>needed to get capital by reselling the apartments where the residents lived

>to new clients, so they figured out a tactic to force people to move by

>refusing to honor ANY special diets in the apartment wing: that included

>heart-healthy diets, diabetic diets, and yes, the g/f c/f diet that kept my

>father cogent.

>

>We didn't know about this change until suddenly, we lost my father

>entirely, for they started to put gravy on his meat and that sort of

>thing. He ended up being found in the middle of the night, stark naked,

>wandering six floors down from his apartment with no idea who he was or

>where he belonged. This prompted the managers to call Adult Protective

>Services and get them to force us into providing 24-hour care in his

>apartment until we could get him moved into the nursing home. (At least

>then he could be g/f c/f!) In four days back on the diet, he woke up, just

>like he had been in a dream. At that point, after seeing this rapid

>decline in my father on just losing the g/f c/f diet, I would have put my

>father in front of a firing squad before I would have let him live in the

>nursing home without benefit of the diet and epsom salts!.

>

>Daddy's doctor for many years had seen the improvements with her own two

>eyes and was terribly sympathetic with our dilemma, but her hands were

>tied, because she could not continue to be his doctor if he moved into the

>nursing home. Her practice was too busy for her to make nursing home

>visits. So, while we were being forced to pay $250 a day for nursing costs

>in his apartment, we searched for a doctor who would read the literature I

>had collected and be willing to write up doctors orders for both diet and

>epsom salts. It took us a month, and we found a wonderful doctor, but

>after that point, I became powerless in being SURE this procedure was

>implemented correctly by the nurse's aides and staff, and it often

>wasn't. But, after it all shook out, Adult Protective Services was on our

>side of assessing blame in this situation to the management! But, he was

>still having to live in something that looked like a hospital...totally

>inappropriate care.

>

>By the way, I don't think we can blame flu shots in his case for his

>dementia. He spent years downing huge quantities of aluminum in the form

>of Maalox, because he had GI issues for a great part of his middle

>years. He also had B12 deficiency...something that should have been

>supplemented after he had two stomach resections due to ulcers, but this

>obvious need was completely overlooked by his former doctors who actively

>scorned nutritional issues and approaches. That's why I " fired " his old

>doctors and found the woman doctor who was willing to read the literature,

>and act accordingly.

>

>

>

>At 08:48 AM 8/19/2003 +0200, you wrote:

> >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3161523.stm

> >

> >Alzheimers is becoming epidemic according to a BBC Online article...

> >

> >flu shots maybe?

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Yes, I think the flu vaccines provide a whopping 25 micrograms per

adult dose. Put that in an elderly body where the immune system is

already starting to change, toss in a little genetic vulnerability,

and you may have a wonderful mix that results in Alzheimer's.

W

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> >

> > i don't think flu shots are that bad provided u

[Guest guest]

Oh surely they jest-- we all know it's just " better diagnostics and

not an actual rise in cases " right??

(wink wink)

W

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3161523.stm

>

> Alzheimers is becoming epidemic according to a BBC Online article...

>

[Guest guest]

Which is one potential reason why we are seeing so many more cases of

what they are calling " early-onset " Alzheimers or Parkinsons--

because they have been pushing flu shots on younger middle-aged

people for a while now whereas before, the big focus was on the

elderly.

W

> Yes, I think the flu vaccines provide a whopping 25 micrograms per

> adult dose.

[Guest guest]

> I had read that flu shots are now the only vaccines that are still

> being manufactured with mercury. I would think they are definately

a

> contributing factor.

Per the list of current production, flu shots and tetanus shots ALL

still contain thimerosal. Other vax are available without thimerosal,

but you have to check because not all of them are thimerosal-free.

http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

>>Think how much mercury has accummulated in someone who has gotten a

flu shot every year for the past 10 or more years.

My MIL has had a flu shot for about that long. Several years ago she

started having TIs, which progressed into mini-strokes. She fell and

broke her ankle 2 years ago. When my husband and I visited her in the

nursing facility before she went home, she spoke to me like I also

lived there. Last weekend, her family moved her into assisted living.

She is 64 years old.

Dana

[Guest guest]

The TD ( tet/dip) is definately not without mercury as I just checked

sources in U.S. and Canada.

Re: Alzheimer's surge predicted

>

> > I had read that flu shots are now the only vaccines that are still

> > being manufactured with mercury. I would think they are definately

> a

> > contributing factor.

>

>

> Per the list of current production, flu shots and tetanus shots ALL

> still contain thimerosal. Other vax are available without thimerosal,

> but you have to check because not all of them are thimerosal-free.

>

>

> http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm

>

>

> >>Think how much mercury has accummulated in someone who has gotten a

> flu shot every year for the past 10 or more years.

>

>

> My MIL has had a flu shot for about that long. Several years ago she

> started having TIs, which progressed into mini-strokes. She fell and

> broke her ankle 2 years ago. When my husband and I visited her in the

> nursing facility before she went home, she spoke to me like I also

> lived there. Last weekend, her family moved her into assisted living.

> She is 64 years old.

>

> Dana

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[Guest guest]

is 25 micrograms a lot for a typical adult ????

Re: Alzheimer's surge predicted

Yes, I think the flu vaccines provide a whopping 25 micrograms per

adult dose. Put that in an elderly body where the immune system is

already starting to change, toss in a little genetic vulnerability,

and you may have a wonderful mix that results in Alzheimer's.

W

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> > i don't think flu shots are that bad provided u