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I recommend anyone looking for a doctor or information on Growth

Hormone visit the website www.cenegenics.com. They are located in

Las Vegas and have given me the best advice on this subject of

anyone. If anyone knows how to add it to our Bookmarks, I think it

would be useful. I don't know how to add a Bookmark.

My primary care has been treating me off the information

Cenegenics prescribed when I went to their clinic. It's pricey, but

you will get about three hours 1:1 with a very well educated MD.

Alot of us have had trouble finding a primary care, endocrinologist,

or urologist who is educated on hypogonadism. I think you will find

from the Cenegenics website that almost every male will eventually

experince hypogonadism as they age (at least relative to the levels

they had as youth). The Cenegenics doctors are specialists in aging

and hormone " modulation " which includes testosterone replacement (or

HCG), growth hormone, etc. I will be going back for another visit to

discuss Growth Hormone now that my T is regulated better with HCG.

It will cost you about $1,000 - $2,000 for a visit, plus expenses,

but Las Vegas is a pretty good place to visit and the cost of hotel

rooms is reasonable. They may also treat some patients over the

phone if travel expenses are a big issue. Or, you can keep hunting

for an MD. I couldn't wait any longer and I wasn't getting anywhere

until I went to Cenegenics. This was before I found this website in

March of this year.

Sorry for being so long winded about this. Let me know what you

think of the Cenegenics website. Seren.

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Great information. I had heard about this from one of the TV magazines.

Re: Growth Hormone

I recommend anyone looking for a doctor or information on Growth

Hormone visit the website www.cenegenics.com. They are located in

Las Vegas and have given me the best advice on this subject of

anyone. If anyone knows how to add it to our Bookmarks, I think it

would be useful. I don't know how to add a Bookmark.

My primary care has been treating me off the information

Cenegenics prescribed when I went to their clinic. It's pricey, but

you will get about three hours 1:1 with a very well educated MD.

Alot of us have had trouble finding a primary care, endocrinologist,

or urologist who is educated on hypogonadism. I think you will find

from the Cenegenics website that almost every male will eventually

experince hypogonadism as they age (at least relative to the levels

they had as youth). The Cenegenics doctors are specialists in aging

and hormone " modulation " which includes testosterone replacement (or

HCG), growth hormone, etc. I will be going back for another visit to

discuss Growth Hormone now that my T is regulated better with HCG.

It will cost you about $1,000 - $2,000 for a visit, plus expenses,

but Las Vegas is a pretty good place to visit and the cost of hotel

rooms is reasonable. They may also treat some patients over the

phone if travel expenses are a big issue. Or, you can keep hunting

for an MD. I couldn't wait any longer and I wasn't getting anywhere

until I went to Cenegenics. This was before I found this website in

March of this year.

Sorry for being so long winded about this. Let me know what you

think of the Cenegenics website. Seren.

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Hi,

Personally I'd hold off on the growth hormone until you do a lot of

independent digging. We were in a similar situation for about 10 years.

Our son was way underneath the growth chart for that long until he hit

puberty. I almost dreaded every birthday because people will invariably

ask how old he was, and there was always that shocked look when I

answered. I read all the literature and found that growth hormone is

indicated mostly when there has been a complete or near complete halt to

growth. There is an organization called Magic(?) that sent me a lot of

material along with a growth chart and it was clear that the foundation

was financed by the manufacturer of growth hormone. Finally it became

clear that there was some underlying problem that needed to be found. I

mean, something serious enough to make a child stop growing shouldn't be

left undiscovered.

An 8 week study is not long enough to discover any long term problems

associated with giving a powerful hormone to a small child. There were

long term problems with the earliest administration to children. That

only came to light after hearing a scientist speak at a seminar that was

not about autism. There are a lot of reasons why a child might stop

growing.

>Message: 15

> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 02:48:39 -0000

> From: " lizfiordalisi " <cfiordalisi@...>

>Subject: Andy- where can I find info on mercury affecting growth?

>

>Andy-

>I have a 3 3/4 year old son with autism who also is a candidate for

>growth hormone supplementation (a bone age x-ray at 3 years old

>revealed the bones of a 1 1/2 year old). I am very interested in any

>info on growth being affected by mercury if you could point me in the

>right direction. I am especially curious because we have done 10

>rounds of DMSA and urine tests show only small amounts of mercury and

>other metals coming out however a baseline pre-chelation urine test

>without any chelators just supplements and IV glutathiaone showed

>mercury coming out in the very elevated range (with no recent mercury

>exposure)- so that makes no sense to me. He does however have all

>the signs of mercury poisoning (flapping, permanently dialated pupils

>in any light, light sensitivity, colitis etc...).

>Our pediatrician and endocrinologist want us to use growth hormone

>which we have been reluctant to use until yesterday I finally tracked

>down a study done in 1992 by Buitelaar et al. in which growth hormone

>showed significant benefits in an eight week trial with autistic

>children. This new point about mercury stunting growth is very

>interesting to me because possibly we should hold off and continue

>chelation in an effort to help his growth? Any info or leads would be

>greatly appreciated. Thanks,

>Liz

>

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Zinc deficiency is frequently a problem.

Supplementation with chelated zinc can produce some very positive

results.

Dolphi

Andy- where can I find info on mercury affecting growth?

>

>Andy-

>I have a 3 3/4 year old son with autism who also is a candidate for

>growth hormone supplementation (a bone age x-ray at 3 years old

>revealed the bones of a 1 1/2 year old). I am very interested in any

>info on growth being affected by mercury if you could point me in the

>right direction. I am especially curious because we have done 10

>rounds of DMSA and urine tests show only small amounts of mercury and

>other metals coming out however a baseline pre-chelation urine test

>without any chelators just supplements and IV glutathiaone showed

>mercury coming out in the very elevated range (with no recent mercury

>exposure)- so that makes no sense to me. He does however have all

>the signs of mercury poisoning (flapping, permanently dialated pupils

>in any light, light sensitivity, colitis etc...).

>Our pediatrician and endocrinologist want us to use growth hormone

>which we have been reluctant to use until yesterday I finally tracked

>down a study done in 1992 by Buitelaar et al. in which growth hormone

>showed significant benefits in an eight week trial with autistic

>children. This new point about mercury stunting growth is very

>interesting to me because possibly we should hold off and continue

>chelation in an effort to help his growth? Any info or leads would be

>greatly appreciated. Thanks,

>Liz

>

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