Re: Thoth and freedom of speech

[Guest guest]

Hi Dave

Tx for this support. I didnt think I was going to get *any* kind of

endorsement! Thoth was certainly a pain but there is principle at

stake. Im not suggsting that ppl should agree with me or that Thoth

should be invited back, I just thought *somebody* ough to raise the

issue.

P.

> > > Whether we're glad doesn't affect the free speech issue.

> Whether

> > > this is a public or private list does.

[Guest guest]

>Hey , isnt it reassuring your friendly neighbourhood flatfoot

might be like this guy? Dont call 911, call 666...

P.>

" I am not a Christian "

---Thoth

;-)

My old phone number began with 666- (seriously).

If memory serves he was a security guard at factories and more recently a

hospital--not a cop. I think he may have wanted to go into another health

related field such as paramedic but I'm not sure. Which isn't to say there

aren't plenty of cops who are satanists. I thought he was very honest about

where he was coming from and what he believed in. Someone once compared him

and his beliefs as being equivilent

to christianity. This evidently offended Thoth. I know it offended me. I

find the agument that he was an " offender " as spurious as

" he scared me. " Typical feminine excuses to justify their own actions or

lack of principles. But this OK in our double-standard culture and I'll let

it go as a pet peeve. If T was booted for uncivil behavior I really don't

have a problem with it. He certainly crossed every civil line when in

" murder-fantasy curse

mode. "

Jim

[Guest guest]

> I find the agument that he was an " offender " as spurious as

> " he scared me. " Typical feminine excuses to justify their own

> actions or lack of principles. But this OK in our double-standard

> culture and I'll let it go as a pet peeve.

Nowya gonnun dunnit, Jim.

Inta the twister cellar everyone.

[Guest guest]

> culture and I'll let it go as a pet peeve.

Nowya gonnun dunnit, Jim.

Inta the twister cellar everyone.

---

I was jus tryin' to take the heat off you, bro!

Why you don't think I really *believe* this I hope...

Sheet, I could lose me job for thinkin such thoughts!

;-)

Jim

[Guest guest]

Thoth was as thoroughly distasteful as most people who identify themselves

as Satanists seem to be -- very low grade stuff. Case of " Sympathy for the

Devil " with me in siding with his evidently virulent anti-XA

opinions/experience. The strange case of Thoth . . . I'm behind Ken when

the chips are down

.

>

>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

>To: <12-step-freeegroups>

>Subject: Re: Re: Thoth and freedom of speech

>Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2000 15:05:25 -0600

>

> >Hey , isnt it reassuring your friendly neighbourhood flatfoot

>might be like this guy? Dont call 911, call 666...

>

>P.>

>

> " I am not a Christian "

> ---Thoth

>;-)

>

>My old phone number began with 666- (seriously).

>If memory serves he was a security guard at factories and more recently a

>hospital--not a cop. I think he may have wanted to go into another health

>related field such as paramedic but I'm not sure. Which isn't to say there

>aren't plenty of cops who are satanists. I thought he was very honest

>about

>where he was coming from and what he believed in. Someone once compared him

>and his beliefs as being equivilent

>to christianity. This evidently offended Thoth. I know it offended me. I

>find the agument that he was an " offender " as spurious as

> " he scared me. " Typical feminine excuses to justify their own actions or

>lack of principles. But this OK in our double-standard culture and I'll let

>it go as a pet peeve. If T was booted for uncivil behavior I really don't

>have a problem with it. He certainly crossed every civil line when in

> " murder-fantasy curse

>mode. "

>Jim

>

>

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[Guest guest]

You don't invite people to your house who are going to bitch you out.

Why do you have a problem with that?

He was a campus cop. Usually those people are real cops.

> >Hey , isnt it reassuring your friendly neighbourhood flatfoot

> might be like this guy? Dont call 911, call 666...

>

> P.>

>

> " I am not a Christian "

> ---Thoth

> ;-)

>

> My old phone number began with 666- (seriously).

> If memory serves he was a security guard at factories and more

recently a

> hospital--not a cop. I think he may have wanted to go into another

health

> related field such as paramedic but I'm not sure. Which isn't to

say

there

> aren't plenty of cops who are satanists. I thought he was very

honest about

> where he was coming from and what he believed in. Someone once

compared him

> and his beliefs as being equivilent

> to christianity. This evidently offended Thoth. I know it offended

me. I

> find the agument that he was an " offender " as spurious as

> " he scared me. " Typical feminine excuses to justify their own

actions or

> lack of principles. But this OK in our double-standard culture and

I'll let

> it go as a pet peeve. If T was booted for uncivil behavior I really

don't

> have a problem with it. He certainly crossed every civil line when

in

> " murder-fantasy curse

> mode. "

> Jim

[Guest guest]

> You don't invite people to your house who are going to bitch you

out.

> Why do you have a problem with that?

Well, this isnt anyone's house for a start, and the other thing is I

dont actually recall Thoth actually bitching at anyone on the list -

he just said some pretty grisly stuff that wasnt aimed at anyone here.

and of course, personal feuds are extremely common on lists. ly,

I think this is probably the least troubled list I've ever

participated in. I think that actually says something about us. You

ahould have seen what went on on the OA list I used to belong to.

Another thing worth noting is that the number of ppl who've got into

big scrapes with drink or drugs is pretty small too - I bet an AA or

NA list would have had far more episodes. Mutual pat on the back

everyone.

P.