Re: HPV VACCINE RANT**** *OFF TOPIC* sorry

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Hi Dee:

My daughter is getting her second HPV vaccine on Monday. It is given in a series of three shots. She had absolutely no side effects with the first one and as you know she has some major health issues.

She is 17. She had friends who at 14 were having sex...............with no condoms. According to the studies the vaccine is 100% effective for strains 16 and 18 which are responsible for 70% of the cancer caused by HPV and also strains 6 and 11 which is responsible for 90% of the HPV warts. I think this is an important vaccine.

In about 7 months Glaxo Kline is coming out with Cerverix which is their HPV vaccine so that should cut into Mercks market.

How do they expect people who can't afford these shots ( and they are expensive) to pay for them??

Sherri

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HI all.... *sigh*

I am really upset that Texas is now going to 'require' that all girls entering the 6th grade must have the HPV Vaccine?????? Making it mandatory? arghhhhh

Esp. after I just read about some of the side effects with that vaccine too, (and previously was for it) *sigh* let alone an 11 or 12 yr old? Besides it only protecting against 2 of the riskier strains of HPV for cervical cancer and yes they are the most prevalent strains but there are others as well and it's no guarantee a woman won't get cervical cancer at all, besides which, it often reverts on it's own? To be 'forced' to get that??? *sigh* Unbelieveable to me.

Sorry I just had to rant here.. but even moreso it's about our civil rights... *sigh* Talk about MERCK pulling a coup de gras on this one !! and the big buck$ spent on lobbyists, etc., but even more to be put in pocket no doubt about that. !!!!

Dee (really upset about this, sorry)

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Unfortunately, TX isn't the only State considering this kind of

legislation.

I was reading something about this in the paper the other day in

the business section that Merck is getting on the band wagon to

try and make it mandatory. And this just absolutely disgusts

me. Like one of the sources for parental rights stated, that if

this was made mandatory the only thing it would do is make it

easier for these young girls to go and try sex when they aren't

even young enough to consider the possibility of marriage.

I'm 35 years old and even if this vaccine were meant for women

like me I would not do it. And I had someone ask me if I was

going to take this medication once we knew it was approved for

useage.

I was even more shocked at the amount of money for the series of

3 shots.

So yes, I'm miffed about this and I don't have any children nor

in a position period to be able to take the shot even if I had

wanted to (which I don't for health reasons and the fact that

I've already had HPV).

Kristy

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Okay, they want to " REQUIRE " girls have the vaccine but their parents can " opt

out " if they want to. I guess that means that all girls whose parents do not

bother to " opt out " or don't know that they can do so, will get the vaccine. I

wonder if getting the vaccine will make it no longer necessary to have " pap "

tests.

Ora

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I never saw anything about opting out of this vaccine when it

comes to young girls but that's good that they might be able to

opt out.

As for the issue of pap tests, and it eliminating the need for

it I wouldn't think so.

The reason is b/c as Dee said this vaccine only treats two kinds

of cervical cancer, not the other kinds.

My question is why when they were studying this vaccine to see

what it could do didn't they check for the other strains?

Kristy

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I was told that the Vaccine will protect against only certain strains of the HPV, but there is still a risk of getting cervical cancer and that pap tests still should be done regularly. Jen taurusrc@... wrote: Okay, they want to "REQUIRE" girls have the vaccine but their parents can "optout" if they want to. I guess that means that all girls whose parents do notbother to "opt out" or don't know that they can do so, will get the vaccine. Iwonder if getting the vaccine will make it no longer necessary to have "pap"tests. Ora

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Hi. Also, Lets face it, Even if they make the shot "mandatory", not everyone is going to follow this rule. I mean I was talking to my dad a while back and found out his dad never allowed him or my unlce to get all the mandatory childhood vaccines. He just plain out and out said No. Another reason I dont think they will make it mandatory is that can you imagine if some girls come down with severe side effects from having this shot, the lawsuits would be ))))HUGE((((!!! I think it should up to the parent to decide what they want to do. Even this is going to be hard on the parent though. I mean this is a big decision. Lets say you decide not to have your child get it, and then she comes down with HPV later on. Or it could go the

other way around, your child may have a bad reaction to the vaccine if she does get it. But either way, I think that the decision should be made by the parent, not by a state law. Jen Kristy Sokoloski wrote: Unfortunately, TX isn't the only State considering this kind oflegislation.I was reading something about this in the paper the other day inthe business section that Merck is getting on the band wagon totry and make it mandatory. And this just absolutely disgustsme. Like one of the sources for parental rights stated, that ifthis was made mandatory the only thing it would do is make iteasier for these young girls to go and try sex when they aren'teven young enough to consider the possibility of marriage.I'm 35 years old and even if this vaccine were meant for womenlike me I would not do it. And I had someone ask me if I

wasgoing to take this medication once we knew it was approved foruseage.I was even more shocked at the amount of money for the series of3 shots.So yes, I'm miffed about this and I don't have any children norin a position period to be able to take the shot even if I hadwanted to (which I don't for health reasons and the fact thatI've already had HPV).Kristy __________________________________________________________Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta.http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/features_spam.html

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Sorry I just had to rant here.. but even moreso it's about our civil rights... *sigh* Talk about MERCK pulling a coup de gras on this one !! and the big buck$ spent on lobbyists, etc., but even more to be put in pocket no doubt about that. !!!! Dee (really upset about this, sorry)

I know, Dee. When i read the article this morning i felt sick and angry.

Whatever happened to control over one's own body -- or being the

decision-maker for one's own children? A very scary and frightening

commentary on the serious and ever-escalating erosion of privacy

and civil rights in this country in the last several years. . . . I hope

the people in Texas who understand the dangers of this -- from both

a medical AND a civil rights point of view -- get good and angry. . .

and vocal.

Hollis

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Hi Dee, I have 2 daughters - 1 in 4th grade and the other in 6th grade. Both have their physicals coming up in March. I want to decline the vaccine. I don't like tampering with the immune systerm. Some people think that vaccines have caused the increase in autism and allergies and such. I know that there is no proof to this but it seems funny to me that people hardly ever were allergic to nuts and such and now we can't even bring a PBJ to school b/c a kid could die from the smell of peanut butter. Its either the pesticides, antibiotics, vaccines, or something else that has made our kids sicker. Our pediatrician says that kids today aren't sicker, it's just that we can diagnose better. Well, I don't believe her. When I was growing up only one or 2 kids had asthma in our school and now the percentage is so much higher. Autism is on the rise too. And even look at v

pain - it wasn't even a known problem until about 20 years ago - except for that one case in the 1800s. I think we are a sicker population due to our weaker immune systems. A PT I went to a while back refused to have her kids vaccinated against anything. ( My kids have all their vaccines except the HPV). Her kids went to public school. I think you can get a waiver if you say it is based on religious principles or something like that. I certainly hope they don't make it mandatory in CT. I'd have to learn all about the concientious objector policy! I would never trust a vaccine that hasn't been out there that long. I don't want my girls to be guinea pigs. The government doesn't have the right to tamper with our immune systems. I hope Texas repeals that law. It makes me so angry. Sandi

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Hi:

From the research I've read before I decided to give my daughter the shot, the pap tests are still necessary, because the shot only covers two strains of HPV.

Sherri

-------------- Original message -------------- From: taurusrc@... > Okay, they want to "REQUIRE" girls have the vaccine but their parents can "opt > out" if they want to. I guess that means that all girls whose parents do not > bother to "opt out" or don't know that they can do so, will get the vaccine. I > wonder if getting the vaccine will make it no longer necessary to have "pap" > tests. > > Ora > > > > > > **IF REPLYING TO THIS POST, PLEASE REMOVE ORIGINAL POST, THANKS** > > Our HOME page is http://groups.yahoo.com/group/VulvarDisorders > to search our archives, files, articles, etc. > > ***