Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 hi i had my sutistic son right after getting married. at 12 months i had no idea he was autistic first timemom i guess i was a little dumb lol. but anyway i ended up pregnant again. my 3 year old is so smart and perfect and fine except he is legally blind but if i could have 10 of him i would . and i am not pregant again 3 months i am a bit scared now that i know how bad my son is and where it came from but i have to leave all of that up to god. i am excited but i think about it alot. i dont knwo if this helped but i hope so joey AUTISM Ten years ago one in 10,000 Five years ago one in 500 Today one in 150 SCARED YET? www.momsonamissionforautism.org http://www.mercola.com/2001/sep/15/vaccines.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 do you have any amalgams? a hair test would also be very informative. adequate iodine and efas are important during pregnancy was your son vaccinated? > Hi, everyone! My husband and I are struggling with the decision to have > another child or not. Our 5.5 yo daughter is NT and our 3 yo son has > autism. We were wondering how other parents made this decision. If you did > decide to have another baby, was there anything you did differently while > pregnant (diet, supplements or whatever) to try to fend off ASD so to speak? > My pregnancy was picture perfect with my daughter; however, w/my son I was > on bedrest for 8 weeks due to pre-term labor and then I developed > pre-eclampsia and had to be induced at 36.5 weeks. So, ASD aside, I am > worried that I may have complications with another pregnancy. > > Since this is OT, feel free to email me directly. Any thoughts would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Greetings, all. Our ASD child (now almost 7!) was our last " planned " child. The Lord saw fit to bless us with 2 others in the next 32 months. Yikes. Or so we thought. was repeatedly declared " fine " and " normal " and I was told, " You're just a worrier " until her (YOUNGER) sisters started outpacing her on developmental milestones. It wasn't until her sisters were talking, potty training, and learning social cues that we were able to persuade the docs to have her evaluated more thoroughly...We couldn't get an Autism diagnosis until she was 6! God Bless! Our family has surely been helped by having the two " extras " around to balance things out. Saffle <bananamom@...> wrote: Hi, everyone! My husband and I are struggling with the decision to have another child or not. Our 5.5 yo daughter is NT and our 3 yo son has autism. We were wondering how other parents made this decision. If you did decide to have another baby, was there anything you did differently while pregnant (diet, supplements or whatever) to try to fend off ASD so to speak? My pregnancy was picture perfect with my daughter; however, w/my son I was on bedrest for 8 weeks due to pre-term labor and then I developed pre-eclampsia and had to be induced at 36.5 weeks. So, ASD aside, I am worried that I may have complications with another pregnancy. Since this is OT, feel free to email me directly. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, ======================================================= Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 If I was to have another child there would be no vaccinations.The child s father would go with the child for bath/what ever they do while your delivering placenta[like sneak in a hep-b]Did both children get vacced? and in what year? These are things to concider.I dont blame you for being concerned.Dont forget poly-vi-sol from day one....... --- Stamps <creativememorieslisa@...> wrote: > Greetings, all. > Our ASD child (now almost 7!) was our last " planned " > child. The Lord saw fit to bless us with 2 others in > the next 32 months. Yikes. Or so we thought. > was repeatedly declared " fine " and " normal " and I > was told, " You're just a worrier " until her > (YOUNGER) sisters started outpacing her on > developmental milestones. It wasn't until her > sisters were talking, potty training, and learning > social cues that we were able to persuade the docs > to have her evaluated more thoroughly...We couldn't > get an Autism diagnosis until she was 6! > > God Bless! Our family has surely been helped by > having the two " extras " around to balance things > out. > > Saffle <bananamom@...> wrote: > Hi, everyone! My husband and I are struggling with > the decision to have > another child or not. Our 5.5 yo daughter is NT and > our 3 yo son has > autism. We were wondering how other parents made > this decision. If you did > decide to have another baby, was there anything you > did differently while > pregnant (diet, supplements or whatever) to try to > fend off ASD so to speak? > My pregnancy was picture perfect with my daughter; > however, w/my son I was > on bedrest for 8 weeks due to pre-term labor and > then I developed > pre-eclampsia and had to be induced at 36.5 weeks. > So, ASD aside, I am > worried that I may have complications with another > pregnancy. > > Since this is OT, feel free to email me directly. > Any thoughts would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > > > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 In a message dated 1/8/04 9:33:11 AM, dhooten@... writes: << Maybe the reasone she was spared is because she is a GIRL... boys are more at risk. >> Yes, my 2nd, NT child is a girl. She had the same vaxes and Rhogam......but seems fine at 3 yo. I do wonder what might be going on that's not apparent. Nell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 My boys are in the milder end of the spectrum compared to many here (but still bad enough for it to cause problems and them to need educational special needs help, and for the enzymes to help!) but when we had our last I didn't do much different during the pregnancy - the one thing we did do was insist on single injections over 6 months apart instead of the mmr - and she's fine! Good luck. I think these days the basics would be organic diet, no dental work during pregnancy.I know the media say folic acid but I don't know much about this - it was after my time. Julea ) All things are possible until proved impossible - and even the impossible may only be so, as of now. http://www.Emagforall.netfirms.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 genetic construction with girls is interleaved from both parents and more fault tolerant whereas boys are more completey homogenised genetically so boys being on spectrum and girls not or less so is a biological trend. the number of amalgams in the mouth is very signficant and you really are talking years forom the removal of the last one before a reasonable margin of safety can be assumed. girls can have very latent degrees of disorder to show as anorexia, excessive alchohol or drug use or similar past puberty. given your sons being on spectrum its really many years before you can be sure your daughter was vaccinated without excessive harm. the measles variant used in the single shot is the same over viralent strain used as mmr and the nature of measles immunity is a suppressed but ongoing viral infection so personally i don't think there is a kid undamaged by it and the ABSOLUTELY exponential rate of self injury and the like among female teenagers is a hidden river of vaccine damage and metals toxicty. however getting the vaccines seperated is a huge step forward. > My boys are in the milder end of the spectrum compared to many here (but > still bad enough for it to cause problems and them to need educational > special needs help, and for the enzymes to help!) but when we had our last I > didn't do much different during the pregnancy - the one thing we did do was > insist on single injections over 6 months apart instead of the mmr - and > she's fine! > Good luck. > I think these days the basics would be organic diet, no dental work during > pregnancy.I know the media say folic acid but I don't know much about this - > it was after my time. > > Julea ) > All things are possible until proved impossible - and even the impossible > may only be so, as of now. > > http://www.Emagforall.netfirms.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 > Yes, my 2nd, NT child is a girl. She had the same vaxes and Rhogam......but > seems fine at 3 yo. I do wonder what might be going on that's not apparent. My #4 is a girl. My #2 and #3 never regressed, they had language and other issues " from birth " . My #4 is NT, but she had the same food intolerances as #2 and #3. I did not give her the MMR vax, I believe she would have regressed. Chelation and anti-viral and certain other things have all helped her, but her issues were much different [except the food issues] from #2 and #3. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 > If you did decide to have another baby, was there anything you did differently > while > pregnant (diet, supplements or whatever) to try to fend off ASD so to speak? > > With #2 I stopped vaccinating, had no dental work, and ate less fish. Also, I > had a C-section with no pitocin or prolonged labor & delivery. I had a > naturopath suggest that I may have had high copper with #1. > > For both my daughters I believe vaccine injury was the main culprit. My older > daughter still has not recovered from her MMR booster at age 5. At that point > I stopped vaccinating my younger daughter. #2 has mild sensory issues compared > to her older sister with Aspergers. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Maybe the reasone she was spared is because she is a GIRL... boys are more at risk. Re: OT - Pregnancy After Having A Child w/ASD > My boys are in the milder end of the spectrum compared to many here (but > still bad enough for it to cause problems and them to need educational > special needs help, and for the enzymes to help!) but when we had our last I > didn't do much different during the pregnancy - the one thing we did do was > insist on single injections over 6 months apart instead of the mmr - and > she's fine! > Good luck. > I think these days the basics would be organic diet, no dental work during > pregnancy.I know the media say folic acid but I don't know much about this - > it was after my time. > > Julea ) > All things are possible until proved impossible - and even the impossible > may only be so, as of now. > > http://www.Emagforall.netfirms.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 > If you have a reasonable doctor, can you see if he/she will request a simultaneous plasma zinc and serum copper or send blood for red cell minerals? If you can't find an MD that will do it then I am sure directlabs.com will be able to do most, if not all the testing detailed above. I too am struggling with this decision as my son is 3.5 years old and I think it would be nice to have another child around. Just trying to weight the pros and cons here to see if my family can handle it if the next one has autism too. I think of it as I am already going to have to deal with this the rest of my life weather I have one or two children on the spectrum. My husband on the other hand is having a difficult time with it all. Good luck in your decision. Dena Mother of Hayden (3.5 Years) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 This didn't happen in my family. It skipped over my first born son and affected my daughter. Re: OT - Pregnancy After Having A Child w/ASD > > > > My boys are in the milder end of the spectrum compared to many here (but > > still bad enough for it to cause problems and them to need educational > > special needs help, and for the enzymes to help!) but when we had our last > I > > didn't do much different during the pregnancy - the one thing we did do > was > > insist on single injections over 6 months apart instead of the mmr - and > > she's fine! > > Good luck. > > I think these days the basics would be organic diet, no dental work during > > pregnancy.I know the media say folic acid but I don't know much about > this - > > it was after my time. > > > > Julea ) > > All things are possible until proved impossible - and even the impossible > > may only be so, as of now. > > > > http://www.Emagforall.netfirms.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 We felt led to follow natural family planning after Allie, my second child, was born. When she developed autism, her team of professionals told me I should have genetic testing to rule out this issue. I felt strongly through several circumstances that The Lord was telling me to continue our method of family planning and to trust in Him. Roughly 8 mos later I became pregnant with our now 15 mo old daughter, Dinah Grace, which means " vindicated by Grace " . She is typical with just a mild speech delay which we are having checked my early intervention. She has all other characteristics which are missing in autism, such as pretend play, eye contact, appropriate babble, receptive understanding, etc. As far as different during pregnancy, I suffered the most complications with Dinah. I was on 150+ units of insulin per day by 10 wks, gestational diabetes. I also had to take hormones during first trimester because of abnormally low hormone levels. I also suffered several other issues which required induction 2 wks early. I took lots of CLO while preg, and avoided dairy and wheat, but still consumed some. I followed the same route while nursing, did not give Dinah dairy/wheat until almost one year old, then realized she has a milk allergy, so back to dairy free. I have not allowed her to receive any vaccines to this point and am still breastfeeding several times per day. All this said, however, I realize that there is still a chance of her developing autism. I had to pray on this issue for some time and give my feelings to The Lord. My basic feeling on having another child was acceptance of the possibility of her being autistic, love for her regardless, and acceptance of God's plan for our lives. HTH, Debi > Hi, everyone! My husband and I are struggling with the decision to have > another child or not. Our 5.5 yo daughter is NT and our 3 yo son has > autism. We were wondering how other parents made this decision. If you did > decide to have another baby, was there anything you did differently while > pregnant (diet, supplements or whatever) to try to fend off ASD so to speak? > My pregnancy was picture perfect with my daughter; however, w/my son I was > on bedrest for 8 weeks due to pre-term labor and then I developed > pre-eclampsia and had to be induced at 36.5 weeks. So, ASD aside, I am > worried that I may have complications with another pregnancy. > > Since this is OT, feel free to email me directly. Any thoughts would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 >Maybe the reasone she was spared is because she is a GIRL... boys are more at risk.< Dr. Mark Geier who did a study on connections with vaccines and autism, believes he knows the reason for this. He said that estrogen minimizes damage from mercury, and tetesterone heightens it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 Hi , I am the mother of 5 children ages 12 to 21. The older 4 kids, 2 boys and 2 girls, are NT (most of the time ), my youngest is autistic. But one thing I noticed is that boy #4 who was born in 1988 didn't talk until after 3 yrs old and we had a hard time understanding him, also he was a lot more hyper than his brother and sisters. One thing I read (I am not sure if it is true) is that thimerosal was added to vaccines around that time. Also the amount of vaccinations have increased since then. I am not sure vaccines injured my son, but I am very suspicious about it. I personally wouldn't have it any other way and sometimes regret I didn't have baby #6 to be a companion for my #5. Needless to say I wouldn't be able to cope without the siblings. Good Luck, Vilma > Hi, everyone! My husband and I are struggling with the decision to have > another child or not. Our 5.5 yo daughter is NT and our 3 yo son has > autism. We were wondering how other parents made this decision. If you did > decide to have another baby, was there anything you did differently while > pregnant (diet, supplements or whatever) to try to fend off ASD so to speak? > My pregnancy was picture perfect with my daughter; however, w/my son I was > on bedrest for 8 weeks due to pre-term labor and then I developed > pre-eclampsia and had to be induced at 36.5 weeks. So, ASD aside, I am > worried that I may have complications with another pregnancy. > > Since this is OT, feel free to email me directly. Any thoughts would be > greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2004 Report Share Posted January 8, 2004 We too had issues of pre-eclampsia and an induced labor. Believe you me, between the untreated gestational diabetes, the pitocen, vaccines, there's a whole host of things I'd do differently. My son still needs me too much to have another at the moment, but I've been grateful to the wonderful women that responded to my question ( similar to yours) a short while back. Mothering and Fit Pregnancy are decent magazines with regards to a more natural approach to pregnancy, and delivery. Funny how doctors and hospitals seem to amp things up when we don't " perform " on command. Good luck to you. OT - Pregnancy After Having A Child w/ASD Hi, everyone! My husband and I are struggling with the decision to have another child or not. Our 5.5 yo daughter is NT and our 3 yo son has autism. We were wondering how other parents made this decision. If you did decide to have another baby, was there anything you did differently while pregnant (diet, supplements or whatever) to try to fend off ASD so to speak? My pregnancy was picture perfect with my daughter; however, w/my son I was on bedrest for 8 weeks due to pre-term labor and then I developed pre-eclampsia and had to be induced at 36.5 weeks. So, ASD aside, I am worried that I may have complications with another pregnancy. Since this is OT, feel free to email me directly. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 The site that has info is 's site at www.childscreen.com but it is down at the moment as its being updated. If anybody is interested they could contact her via WIllis Langfords list Williss/ MAndi in UK > I have been following this chain with great interest and just now > realized I may have something to contribute. Maybe you can do some > searches on the net like " autism and early cord clamping " for more > info as I don't remember where I saw the studies (if they were indeed > real studies), but apparently the time between the baby being born > and the cord being clamped has reduced dramatically in the past so > many years. I think I remember something like in the last > minutes/seconds that the cord is attached after birth, the baby is > receiving something from mom that directly affects brain > development? Sorry to be so hazy, but it's something I would > definitely talk to my midwife about if we do this again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 I have been following this chain with great interest and just now realized I may have something to contribute. Maybe you can do some searches on the net like " autism and early cord clamping " for more info as I don't remember where I saw the studies (if they were indeed real studies), but apparently the time between the baby being born and the cord being clamped has reduced dramatically in the past so many years. I think I remember something like in the last minutes/seconds that the cord is attached after birth, the baby is receiving something from mom that directly affects brain development? Sorry to be so hazy, but it's something I would definitely talk to my midwife about if we do this again. I don't think there's any harm at all to the baby in waiting an extra minute to cut the cord if it was a healthy birth, so why not just do it? I know this struck me because 's birth was so traumatic to both of us that my midwife cut the cord like practically before he was out and practically air bombed him over to the pediatric team that was waiting for him. So I've always wondered... Anyway, just another random thought. > Hi, everyone! My husband and I are struggling with the decision to have > another child or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2004 Report Share Posted January 9, 2004 Not a parent myself, but have a nephew with vaccine-induced autism who has two younger NT siblings. Also have a healthy un-vaccinated nephew. Do you have mercury amalgam dental fillings? Did you vaccinate your other chiildren, would you plan to vaccinate any future children? How's your diet, avoid pesticides, etc? How's your exposure to pollution? Have you had a DDI hair analysis done on yourself and applied counting rules? S > Hi, everyone! My husband and I are struggling with the decision to have<BR> another child or not. Our 5.5 yo daughter is NT and our 3 yo son has<BR> autism. We were wondering how other parents made this decision. If you did<BR> decide to have another baby, was there anything you did differently while<BR> pregnant (diet, supplements or whatever) to try to fend off ASD so to speak?<BR> My pregnancy was picture perfect with my daughter; however, w/my son I was<BR> on bedrest for 8 weeks due to pre-term labor and then I developed<BR> pre-eclampsia and had to be induced at 36.5 weeks. So, ASD aside, I am<BR> worried that I may have complications with another pregnancy.<BR> <BR> Since this is OT, feel free to email me directly. Any thoughts would be<BR> greatly appreciated.<BR> <BR> Thanks,<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br><br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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