Re: Eye Stims & Vitamin A

[Guest guest]

> My autistic son's eye stims have been at their worst recently. He keeps one

> eye closed most of the time (this is definitely a stim), & just this week has

> been rubbing it a lot (we're not sure if stim or injury).

My son would rub his eyes when he had yeast.

> He cannot tolerate CLO at all as I've tried many different kinds. I was going

> to try Twinlabs Allergy A but Twinlab vits are fazing out from what I am told

Who told you this? I will ask at my local source also.

Maybe go to a few places and buy all their stock?

I don't need TwinLabs any more, but it was sure very helpful when I did.

Dana

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I wonder if your child is NOT seeing in binocular vision and so he just uses

one eye. My friend's child was tested by a Developmental Optometrist and the

doctor found that her 9 year old had NEVER seen in binocular vision. It was

just heart breaking. Now, after vision training, he reads quite well and he is

much better in so many ways. He HAD been tested by a pediatric

ophthalmologist every year and that person said his eyes were fine. The moral

of the story

is to NOT TRUST the ophthalmologist if you think he is having an issue that

may be related to eye tracking and eye muscles.

By the way, my daughter had eye tracking problems, too. Once we got her

inner ear stabilized and then did eye training with a Developmental Optometrist,

she jumped a couple of grade levels in reading right away. She now reads VERY

WELL and lots. Her pediatric ophthalmologist said she had better than perfect

vision and said he saw no issues with eye tracking. He was SO wrong and have

a kid who made big leaps in progress right away to prove it.

Just a thought from someone who had been through it.

in Salt Lake City

[Guest guest]

Important note.

Pediatric ophthalmologists as a rule don't konw anything about vision.

They don't test the kid with both eyes open at the same time, nor do

they test him before paralyzing the muscle that focuses the eye using

the eye drops.

Ophthalmologists are SURGEONS, they study EYESIGNT, and they are

concerned with doing tests that identify something wrong with the

eyeball that has a surgical solution.

Some ophthalmologists understand this, most don't. Most believe there

are no problems they don't know how to identify and treat even though

there are vast numbers of problems for which there is no surgical

solution (just as in most areas of medicine).

Optometrists are eye physicians. They don't cut. They prescribe

lenses, some eye medicines, and some of them - behavioral optometrists

- do vision therapy which is properly characterized as physical therapy

for the eyes.

As in all areas of medicine, some problems have a surgical solution,

some a medical solution (a drug or supplement to prescribe), some

require physical therapy, and some require a device - lenses in this

case - to correct for physical impairment.

When you go to one kind of doctor you tend to get offered the solutions

they are familiar with and problems that require other solutions tend

to get ignored.

Essentially all developmentally impaired children really need to start

with a behavioral optometric exam. The optometrist will send you to an

ophthalmologist if surgery really does seem to be the right solution.

Ophthalmologists seldom refer the other way for many reasons, the

simplest being that it takes about an hour to do the exxam that the

OD's do to identify the problems treatable with vision therapy or

properly prescribed lenses, while the MD's do a 5-10 minute exam since

it is simpler to find the surgical problems so they don't pick up the

other stuff.

Another reason that you might not find very socially acceptable but

which is very real is that missing a surgical problem creates

incredible liability, while (due to MD lobbying) missing a behavioral

vision problem creates no liability. So the OD's are very careful to

check EVERYTHING, the MD's really have no downside to ignoring the

stuff not relevant to the therapy they offer.

Some ophthalmologists really do know this stuff, but as with any kind

of doctoring, it is very hard for you to tell who is who beforehand and

they and their colleagues will always assure you they know it all. So

unless you have personal knowledge that an MD has been referring some

kids to a behavioral OD I'd suggest trying the OD even if the MD said

the eyes are fine.

Generally, the vision exam itself is a covered insurance benefit.

Andy . . . .. . . . .

>

> I wonder if your child is NOT seeing in binocular vision and so he just uses

> one eye. My friend's child was tested by a Developmental Optometrist and the

> doctor found that her 9 year old had NEVER seen in binocular vision. It was

> just heart breaking. Now, after vision training, he reads quite well and he

is

> much better in so many ways. He HAD been tested by a pediatric

> ophthalmologist every year and that person said his eyes were fine. The moral

of the story

> is to NOT TRUST the ophthalmologist if you think he is having an issue that

> may be related to eye tracking and eye muscles.

>

> By the way, my daughter had eye tracking problems, too. Once we got her

> inner ear stabilized and then did eye training with a Developmental

Optometrist,

> she jumped a couple of grade levels in reading right away. She now reads VERY

> WELL and lots. Her pediatric ophthalmologist said she had better than perfect

> vision and said he saw no issues with eye tracking. He was SO wrong and have

> a kid who made big leaps in progress right away to prove it.

>

> Just a thought from someone who had been through it.

>

> in Salt Lake City

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