Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 , I know some other parents who have said that yeast comes back like CRAZY after Nystatin. Some have had better luck using natural antifungals plus SCD with acidophilus..... either via nut yogurt or supplements. Have you read about the carrot juice and garlic protocol? I don't know if you could get him to accept that but Tamaro swears by this as THE best antifungal she's ever used, by far. Sorry to hear you lost ground by going to the rice stuff....... I hope you can get back where you wanted to be..... with all the pieces you want in there at the same time! Hang in there. Patti, mom to Katera, SCD 15 months SCD mistakes/problems Hi, I put my 2 yr old on SCD late May, after 6 mos gfcf. We were seeing nice results cognitively, and went from diaper blow outs to more like playdoh, no real trophies though. After 8 wks. we began seeing serious eating regressions, he began gagging, thrusting infantlike, and choking on anything that remotely had to be chewed..he wasn't chewing at all. We had a supplement infraction around the same time and got massive diarreah after 2 days. I went back to inro diet, and had no luck turning the situation around over a 2.5 wk. period. We began probiotics and nystatin, and saw some great cognitive gains again, and for the first time saw trophies. My DAN dr, who highly recommends SCD, said to try adding back small amounts of chewable gfcf food, but no more than 10 gms at a time (calculated he said off of my son's weight which is 30lbs./ 3 gms per 10 lbs) to use as therapy for chewing. Well, of course, as soon as I stopped the nystatin, the blow outs returned (after forgoing only 2 doses), but the chewing issues have made progress and are resolving. But now I am wits end with blowing the SCD, as I am back to square one with bad bm's and yeast. I could just kick myself for not finding another way around the feeding issues, as I feel that I really set myself back with his progress on the diet. I want to start over, but am afraid of losing gound on chewing. And am wondering how much validity to eating the small amounts scd illegal carbs that I fell prey to is just proof that SCD was working, and I was an idiot to go that route. Sorry so long. I am really frustrated looking back at the mess I have created! Any help, much thanks. Ty 25 mos./asd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 Thanks for the info. I don't think he will drink the carrot juice, I have tried it before, but I really want him off the nystatin. I believe the nystatin brings the yeast back worse too(my short trial was proof) , which is why I want him off of it. I will try the GSE. His diet is already so low in sugar, no juice only drinks water, and pearsauce in small amounts to get the supplements down. And keep the probiotics up. Thanks again, -- In pecanbread , " Patti " <durovchic@c...> wrote: > , > I know some other parents who have said that yeast comes back like CRAZY after Nystatin. Some have had better luck using natural antifungals plus SCD with acidophilus..... either via nut yogurt or supplements. Have you read about the carrot juice and garlic protocol? I don't know if you could get him to accept that but Tamaro swears by this as THE best antifungal she's ever used, by far. Sorry to hear you lost ground by going to the rice stuff....... I hope you can get back where you wanted to be..... with all the pieces you want in there at the same time! Hang in there. > > Patti, mom to Katera, SCD 15 months > SCD mistakes/problems > > > Hi, > I put my 2 yr old on SCD late May, after 6 mos gfcf. > We were seeing nice results cognitively, and went from > diaper blow outs to more like playdoh, no real trophies though. > After 8 wks. we began seeing serious eating regressions, he began > gagging, thrusting infantlike, and choking on anything that remotely > had to be chewed..he wasn't chewing at all. > We had a supplement infraction around the same time and got massive > diarreah after 2 days. I went back to inro diet, and had no luck > turning the situation around over a 2.5 wk. period. We began > probiotics and nystatin, and saw some great cognitive gains again, > and for the first time saw trophies. > My DAN dr, who highly recommends SCD, said to try adding back small > amounts of chewable gfcf food, but no more than 10 gms at a time > (calculated he said off of my son's weight which is 30lbs./ 3 gms > per 10 lbs) to use as therapy for chewing. > Well, of course, as soon as I stopped the nystatin, the blow outs > returned (after forgoing only 2 doses), but the chewing issues have > made progress and are resolving. > But now I am wits end with blowing the SCD, as I am back to square > one with bad bm's and yeast. I could just kick myself for not > finding another way around the feeding issues, as I feel that I > really set myself back with his progress on the diet. > I want to start over, but am afraid of losing gound on chewing. And > am wondering how much validity to eating the small amounts scd > illegal carbs that I fell prey to is just proof that SCD was > working, and I was an idiot to go that route. > Sorry so long. I am really frustrated looking back at the mess I > have created! Any help, much thanks. > > Ty 25 mos./asd > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 " His diet is already so low in sugar, no juice only drinks water, and pearsauce in small amounts to get the supplements down. " , This does not sound good from a nutritional standpoint. Children need carbs. PLEASE be certain your son is getting enough carbs. Diets that are very low carb, like the ketogenic diet MUST be overseen by a qualified medical professional. SCD is specific carbs, not low carb. Jody mom to -5 and -8 SCD 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 Jody, He is 25 mos. old and 31 lbs (he actually has gained weight for the first time in a while, on SCD, this past summer.) The veggies are about 1/4 cup serving/pureed, and I have to grind the chicken, so maybe 2-3 tablespoons per serving mixed with the veggies. I feed him about 5-6 times a day, smaller meals. He gets 1/4 c of pearsauce 3 x a day also for his supps. 1 banana a day, and probably 2 cashew muffins, or chicken muffins. He likes both of those for in btwn meal snacks. He is highly reactive to beef and lamb, they are not an option. Carrots and acorn or butternut squash are about it for veggie choices, can't get him to go beyond that. He is a full gagger when he comes across a taste or texture that is new or different. We keep trying to hide or change it up with no success. Literally we joke in our house that the Dog is now SCD as I throw into his bowl all that Ty won't eat! LOL! And I have to worry about the lack of chewing, everything is so soft, I am so concerned about his feeding regressions. > " .Am I anywhere near being on the right track? " > > I would have to know the amounts of the veggies and the meat. > That makes a big difference. It's hard to guess what someone > else considers to be a serving. > If you can provide a measurement, that will help. Like 1/2 cup > butternut squahs, 1/4 cup chicken... etc. > > Also, I need to know how old he is. > > > Jody > mom to -5 and -8 > SCD 19 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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