Re: Gritty, Sand-like Stools

[Guest guest]

My NT daughter's were like that for the first month or two on SCD. Then they

became a more " normal " color. I think she wasn't properly digesting the food

she was getting because she had been so sick and the food was not visible

exactly but retained it's color and texture more than if she had been digesting

it

properly. Once we had her digestion healed, her stools have been great.

, Mom to IBD daughter, age 9, whole family SCD 11/03, other daughters

ages 12 and 5

[Guest guest]

> I am curious to know if any of your ASD children have had gritty,

> sand-like stools.

I have been told this is bile salts, but no one has ever explained

whether or not this is good or bad. My son used to have them all the

time before any diet changes. I think he has had one since gfcf. We

are getting ready to start SCD. But my baby, who is somewhat gfcf

had one just the other day. I would really like to know if what bile

salts in BM MEANS, if anyone knows. I will do some research too, and

see if I can figure it out!

[Guest guest]

ahhh!! a fellow researcher!! i have posted this question many

times, and from what i can tell, they **are** some type of bile

salt. another possible explanation are dreaded gallstones. :-( see

the following link:

http://www.acg.gi.org/patientinfo/cgp/cgpvol2.html#Gallstones

now... when i was searching, i also found some info on enemas that

are supposed to help cleanse these out, and restore the colon/liver

to health. some pretty crazy stuff but i may just be desperate

enough to try it out. i would like to avoid the drugs they mention

in the post above.

below is a link to the enema page i found. warning... there is some

**REALLY** graphic poop talk there.

http://curezone.com/cleanse/enema/

shannon.

>

> > I am curious to know if any of your ASD children have had gritty,

> > sand-like stools.

>

> I have been told this is bile salts, but no one has ever explained

> whether or not this is good or bad. My son used to have them all

the

> time before any diet changes. I think he has had one since gfcf.

We

> are getting ready to start SCD. But my baby, who is somewhat gfcf

> had one just the other day. I would really like to know if what

bile

> salts in BM MEANS, if anyone knows. I will do some research too,

and

> see if I can figure it out!

>

[Guest guest]

This is going to sound way too simplistic, I bet, but I thought my son's was

from a supplement he takes. He was having about 3 weeks of diarrhea from a

bug or something, and if his stool got in the tub, it would be like sand on

the beach -- part of it would be hard to rinse like thin crystalline sludge.

I attributed this to the supplement caplets. They contain magnesium

sillicate (talc) if that means anything, also cellulose. If they ever start

to " melt " in his mouth, they are granular and rough looking.

Re: Gritty, Sand-like Stools

>

>

> ahhh!! a fellow researcher!! i have posted this question many

> times, and from what i can tell, they **are** some type of bile

> salt. another possible explanation are dreaded gallstones. :-( see

> the following link:

> http://www.acg.gi.org/patientinfo/cgp/cgpvol2.html#Gallstones

>

> now... when i was searching, i also found some info on enemas that

> are supposed to help cleanse these out, and restore the colon/liver

> to health. some pretty crazy stuff but i may just be desperate

> enough to try it out. i would like to avoid the drugs they mention

> in the post above.

>

> below is a link to the enema page i found. warning... there is some

> **REALLY** graphic poop talk there.

>

> http://curezone.com/cleanse/enema/

>

>

> shannon.

>

>

> >

> > > I am curious to know if any of your ASD children have had gritty,

> > > sand-like stools.

> >

> > I have been told this is bile salts, but no one has ever explained

> > whether or not this is good or bad. My son used to have them all

> the

> > time before any diet changes. I think he has had one since gfcf.

> We

> > are getting ready to start SCD. But my baby, who is somewhat gfcf

> > had one just the other day. I would really like to know if what

> bile

> > salts in BM MEANS, if anyone knows. I will do some research too,

> and

> > see if I can figure it out!

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

> http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

> and

> http://www.pecanbread.com

>

>

[Guest guest]

There were just some messages that were re-posted in the past week or so from

Elaine on this subject. You may have to backtrack through the posts at the

website, b/c I'm really not sure what the subject line was...... something

along the lines of sandy/gritty poop. From what I've seen on this list, it's

reported now and then with kids in the beginning stages of SCD...... not sure

why....... seems to be temporary. I imagine detoxing involves the liver.....

cleansing..... changing metabolism, etc. I know that's not really an

explanation. I don't think it's seriously urgent...... though you may want to

check with your DAN doc, or regular pediatrician.

Patti

Gritty, Sand-like Stools

I am curious to know if any of your ASD children have had gritty,

sand-like stools. My son (who has ASD) has been on the Specific

Carbohydrate Diet for about a little over a month (having switched

from the GFCF Diet to this one) and his bowel movements changed for

the better (actually firmer and not as loose/mushy). After having

one of his most normal-like bowel movements in his entire little

life, the following day they started to become gritty, almost sand-

like. Does any one know what this may be an indication of? Is this

a die-off reaction? We are not currently treating him with an anti-

fungal...just probiotics. Or do you think this could be a food

allergy type reaction? Any feedback you can share with me would be

gratefully appreciated.

Sincerely,

Kerstin

For information on the Specific Carbohydrate Diet, please read the book

_Breaking the Vicious Cycle_ by Elaine Gottschall and read the following

websites:

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info

and

http://www.pecanbread.com