Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Hi Carolyn--I'm going to help save you some time-- you need to go to the Files /files/ Click on how to hair test and then click on how to post hair test results to the board and there will be something you can cut and paste into your message and then you fill in all the information that it asks for...without all the info, no one can help you analyze it. W > Ok I just got results back from Doctor's Data on my 8yrs old sons metal toxicity score and > here it is ...... > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Hello Carolyn, Lately I've been " lazy " and left all the hair test posts to Andy and others to " count " . However, yours is one that is " easy " for me--- at a glance, without doing the rest of the " counting " stuff, you've got 4 reds in the essential elements, so this qualifies as " likely mercury toxic " . Not copper toxic. I'm also a little suspicious about whether these test results are show a POTENTIAL adrenal issue--- the pattern you have here is NOT the exact thing Andy says indicates this-- but your test is quite " pronounced " with 2 REDS for sodium and potassium, so I'm suspicious. In any case, this would just be something to look into, or do further tests, and NOT anything conclusive. best, Moria > 8yrs old male > > DDI-hair, no hair treatments > > POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS > element result ref range color > ============================================= > aluminum 10 <8.0 yellow > antimony 0.059 <0.066 green > arsenic 0.043 <0.08 green > beryllium <0.01 <0.02 no line > bismuth 0.022 <0.12 green > cadmium 0.055 <0.15 green > lead 0.26 <1.0 green > mercury 0.17 <0.4 green > platinum <0.003 <0.005 no line > thallium <0.001 <0.01 no line > thorium 0.002 <0.005 green > uranium 0.006 <.06 green > nickel 0.12 < 0.4 green > silver 23 <0.13 red > tin > titanium > > ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS > element result ref range color under/over 50% > ============================================================ > Calcium 381 160-500 white at 50th > Magnesium 28 12-50 white at 50th > Sodium 580 12-90 red over 50 > Potassium 470 10-40 red over 50 > Copper 11 9.0-30 green under 50 > Zinc 180 110-190 green over 50 > Manganese 0.21 0.18-0.6 green under 50 > Chromium 0.26 0.23-0.5 green under 50 > Vanadium 0.041 0.025-0.1 green under 50 > Molybdenum 0.045 0.04-0.089 green under 50 > Boron 17 0.5-3.5 red over 50 > Iodine 0.22 0.25-1.3 yellow under 50 > Lithium 0.032 0.007-0.023 yellow over 50 > Phosphorus 243 160-250 green over 50 selenium 0.63 0.9-1.7 yellow under 50 Strontium 0.35 0.21-2.1 green under 50 > Sulfur 48700 45500-53000 white at 50th > Barium 0.23 0.19-1.6 green under 50th > Cobalt 0.012 0.013-0.035 yellow under 50th > Iron 16 6.0-17 green over 50yth > Germanium 0.054 0.045-0.065 white at 50th > Rubidium 0.5 0.008-0.08 red over 50th Zirconium 1.0 0.06-0.7 yellow over 50th > > Thank you so much! > > Carolyn > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 Oh bummer I think I messed up here Let me try this again. Re: [ ] Re: new need help 8yrs old male DDI-hair, no hair treatments POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS element result ref range color ============================================= aluminum 10 <8.0 yellow antimony 0.059 <0.066 green arsenic 0.043 <0.08 green beryllium <0.01 <0.02 no line bismuth 0.022 <0.12 green cadmium 0.055 <0.15 green lead 0.26 <1.0 green mercury 0.17 <0.4 green platinum <0.003 <0.005 no line thallium <0.001 <0.01 no line thorium 0.002 <0.005 green uranium 0.006 <.06 green nickel 0.12 < 0.4 green silver 23 <0.13 red tin 0.14 <0.3 green titanium 0.97 <1.0 green ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS element result ref range color under/over 50% ============================================================ Calcium 381 160-500 white over 50th Magnesium 28 12-50 white over 50th Sodium 580 12-90 red over 50 Potassium 470 10-40 red over 50 Copper 11 9.0-30 green under 50 Zinc 180 110-190 green over 50 Manganese 0.21 0.18-0.6 green under 50 Chromium 0.26 0.23-0.5 green under 50 Vanadium 0.041 0.025-0.1 green under 50 Molybdenum 0.045 0.04-0.089 green under 50 Boron 17 0.5-3.5 red over 50 Iodine 0.22 0.25-1.3 yellow under 50 Lithium 0.032 0.007-0.023 yellow over 50 Phosphorus 243 160-250 green over 50 selenium 0.63 0.9-1.7 yellow under 50 Strontium 0.35 0.21-2.1 green under 50 Sulfur 48700 45500-53000 white over 50th Barium 0.23 0.19-1.6 green under 50th Cobalt 0.012 0.013-0.035 yellow under 50th Iron 16 6.0-17 green over 50yth Germanium 0.054 0.045-0.065 white at 50th Rubidium 0.5 0.008-0.08 red over 50th Zirconium 1.0 0.06-0.7 yellow over 50th Thank you so much! I take the 50th percentile is where the green and white meets on the left end of the white bar-correct? Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 > I take the 50th percentile is where the green and white meets on the left end of the white bar-correct? > > Carolyn okay. the percentages and colors: the first thing is to notice that the format differs for the toxic section vs. the essential elements section. the toxics section is " one directional " . on the left side is 0 or lowest--- which for toxics is " good " . The colors go from green to yellow to red, moving toward the right side of the page, as the numbers get bigger. the essential elements section is " two directional " . It goes from the MIDDLE (white) outward in both directions. With essential elements one can be UNDER the reference range or OVER it. (unlike toxics, where none is the " best " result). The MIDDLE is 50% or " totally average " . Then comes green, yellow, and red, ON BOTH SIDES. If you will humor me that the line " starts " in the MIDDLE, and goes toward one side or the other (right or left), then the place where the line " ends " is what you should report. That is, report the COLOR where it ends, and report that it is " over 50% " if it " heads toward the right " and report that it is " under 50% " if it " heads toward the left " . hope that helps. Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 what if the line starts at the white part AND ends in the white part heading to the right side. Is that considered at the 50th percentile rather than over/under? Carolyn ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 got 4 reds in the essential elements, so this qualifies as " likely mercury toxic " . Not copper toxic. I'm also a little suspicious about whether these test results are show a POTENTIAL adrenal issue--- the pattern you have here is NOT the exact thing Andy says indicates this-- but best, Moria Hi: So what would be the best protocal for my son. He is currently taking Brain Child supplements, Houston's Zymeprime, AFP and No Fenol and he is also taking Cod Liver oil. He is also on ABILIFY and SEROQUEL for rages and mood swings. He does take occasional Epson Salt baths. We have been on a gfcf no yeast, no sugar, no starch diet, no fruit diet. Now he does have plenty of dental fillings. He still does have a lot of diarrhea and abdominal pains. What am I or not doing that I can do to help this situation? Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 > what if the line starts at the white part AND ends in the white part heading to the right side. Is that considered at the 50th percentile rather than over/under? > > Carolyn > ----- That is over 50%. You should report it as " white " and " over 50% " . Obviously, since it ends in white, it is only VERY SLIGHTLY over 50%, but it still counts. To be right at 50% (not over or under) the " line " has to be " a dot " . Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Hi: I spoke with our Dan dr. Dr. Toth in Concord, CA and he wants to do glutathione and nacetlycystein and paleo meal before chelation begins with DMPS with my son 8yrs old son . He also wants to do a challenge test. He also is sending my son to Dr. Tim Gilford in Palo Alto, CA because he works more with kids. Of course the DMPS can't start until he has had the amalgrams out. Does anyone know much about these two doctors? I can;t seem to get a good idea what on earth Dr. Toth's protocal is. You can also email off list. I currently live in San Ramon, CA. If anyone knows anyone in my area please let me know. Carolyn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 I am a compounding pharmacist I have developed a stable for of rduced glutathione. I would leave a meesage for dr. mccandless who wrote the book starving brains. She is in californiamand would refere you to a good dan doc. Thank alan i > Hi: I spoke with our Dan dr. Dr. Toth in Concord, CA and he wants to do glutathione and nacetlycystein and paleo meal before chelation begins with DMPS with my son 8yrs old son . He also wants to do a challenge test. > He also is sending my son to Dr. Tim Gilford in Palo Alto, CA because he works more with kids. > Of course the DMPS can't start until he has had the amalgrams out. > > Does anyone know much about these two doctors? I can;t seem to get a good idea what on earth Dr. Toth's protocal is. > You can also email off list. > I currently live in San Ramon, CA. If anyone knows anyone in my area please let me know. > Carolyn > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 Carolyn, DMPS oral or IV? What dosage and what schedule? Challenge test is a bad idea as is IV DMPS. Some discussion on this list in the past about glutathione being a really bad idea for at least some. What's his resaoning for the paleo diet? You need to ask a lot of questions... S > Hi: I spoke with our Dan dr. Dr. Toth in Concord, CA and he wants to do glutathione and nacetlycystein and paleo meal before chelation begins with DMPS with my son 8yrs old son . He also wants to do a challenge test. <BR> He also is sending my son to Dr. Tim Gilford in Palo Alto, CA because he works more with kids. <BR> Of course the DMPS can't start until he has had the amalgrams out. <BR> <BR> Does anyone know much about these two doctors? I can;t seem to get a good idea what on earth Dr. Toth's protocal is. <BR> You can also email off list. <BR> I currently live in San Ramon, CA. If anyone knows anyone in my area please let me know. <BR> Carolyn<BR> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2004 Report Share Posted May 13, 2004 Perfect Colon is a good probiotic containing the ingredients you requested. On the other questions, there are so many treatments, so many tests, those that have gone the gamut are usually gracious enough to share their experiences. We tested for a number of viruses, and got a high active positive for Herpes 6. Not necessarily the smoking gun for us, but a definite inhibitor to our son's health and development. Best to do as much research as possible on your own for the virus aspect of it, and best to keep an open mind with regard to treatment. I've learned 2 things the hard way, first, do no harm. Second, listen to your gut. Good luck to you. On the Oil of Oregano, we used it and we used 2-4 drops a day squirted into empty Houston enzyme capsules. new need help > I have a two and a half year old son who has autism. We did stool > test in Great Smokies. > He has all bad bacteria's 4+ and no good bacteria. I am new to this > so I would like some advice. He is 25 lbs. > I want to know how much oil of oregano I can give and how long I can > give? > What probiotics is good to get lactobacillus and bifidobacterium > bacteria? > What are the other things I can do to kill bad bacteria? > Has any one tried uva ursi for small kids his age? > Is there any test to see he has viral issues? > He is not talking yet can I do any thing to improve? > > > Thank you, > Chan > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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