Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Hi Ed, Welcome. You are in the right place. The Files section of this list has lots of information that you need asap, if you haven't accessed these already. The DMSA schedule you are using is not good. I'm thinking you should discontinue until others on the list can advise you on a better dosing schedule and also other testing you may wish to consider. There is a file on hair testing that will help you resubmit your son's hair results so that we can all better understand what is going on with him. I have two immediate questions: does your son have any amalgam (silver dental fillings)? and are you working with a health care provider of some sort? Hope to hear back from you soon Lissy [ ] Test results & Treatment (sorry but this is long) I have been lurking (and reading) on the list for quite awhile. I respect the first-hand knowledge of the group and I am looking for a little feedback. My son 2.7 (34 lbs) has recently taken a hair and urine test. Test results are listed in detail below. The urine test was DMSA provoked (250 mg). In the original hair test he showed very high Lead and low Mercury. When we got the urine test back he showed very elevated levels of both. My son has just started on DMSA about 2 weeks ago. (1) 100 mg dose once a day, 5 days on and 5 days off. I have noticed from the postings that most children his age seem to be on a lower dose of DMSA. Is his dose too high? Considering his lead levels are so high we were anxious to start right away. Is there any further testing that we should do to try and pinpoint his condition and treatment needs more accurately? When should we add in ALA? I am concerned about adding it too early with all the bad things floating around and exposing his brain to further damage. His overall condition has improved significantly since we started the DMSA. He is also noticeably better on " On " days than he is on " Off " days. His therapists have independently verified this through their reports and they aren't aware of the DMSA or the schedule Thanks in advance, Ed Test Results Hair 6/30/03: (ug/g) Aluminum 15 Antimony .21 Arsenic: .3 Beryllium: <.01 Bismuth: .74 Cadmium: .16 Lead: 5.6 Mercury: .1 Platinum: <.003 Thallium: <.001 Thorium: .008 Uranium: .015 Nickel: .27 Silver: .25 Tin: .69 Titanium: 1.5 Calcium: 135 Magnesium: 11 Sodium: 2.0 Potassium: 5.0 Copper: 11 Zinc: 100 Manganese: .43 Chromium: .36 Vanadium: .064 Molybdenum: .14 Boron: 2.3 Iodine: 3.6 Lithium: .013 Phosphorus: 220 Selenium: 1.4 Strontium: .25 Sulfur: 54500 Barium: .28 Cobalt: .022 Iron: 21 Germanium: .069 Rubidium: 02 Zirconium: .51 Urine 09/14/03: (ug/g) Arsenic: 42 Lead: 84 Mercury: 6.3 Tin: 19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 Ed, Welcome to the list. The dose of DMSA you're giving is high and the dosing schedule potentially harmful. 1/8 - 1/2 mg per pound of child given every 4 hrs day and night is what Andy Cutler, PhD (in Chemistry) recommends to avoid redistributing the mercury (or lead) to other parts of the body. > If you did DDI hair analysis check the FAQs of this list for counting rules to check for disordered mineral transport which often signifies mercury toxicity. Many post test results to the list for help interpreting them. > Have you identified and reduced/eliminated the source of exposure to lead? > S My son 2.7 (34 lbs) has recently taken a hair and urine test. Test <BR> results are listed in detail below. The urine test was DMSA provoked <BR> (250 mg). In the original hair test he showed very high Lead and low <BR> Mercury. When we got the urine test back he showed very elevated <BR> levels of both. <BR> <BR> My son has just started on DMSA about 2 weeks ago. (1) 100 mg dose <BR> once a day, 5 days on and 5 days off. <BR> <BR> I have noticed from the postings that most children his age seem to <BR> be on a lower dose of DMSA. Is his dose too high? Considering his <BR> lead levels are so high we were anxious to start right away.<BR> <BR> Is there any further testing that we should do to try and pinpoint <BR> his condition and treatment needs more accurately?<BR> <BR> When should we add in ALA? I am concerned about adding it too early <BR> with all the bad things floating around and exposing his brain to <BR> further damage.<BR> <BR> His overall condition has improved significantly since we started the <BR> DMSA. He is also noticeably better on " On " days than he is on " Off " <BR> days. His therapists have independently verified this through their <BR> reports and they aren't aware of the DMSA or the schedule <BR> <BR> Thanks in advance,<BR> <BR> Ed<BR> <BR> Test Results<BR> <BR> Hair 6/30/03: (ug/g)<BR> <BR> Aluminum 15 <BR> Antimony .21 <BR> Arsenic: .3 <BR> Beryllium: <.01 <BR> Bismuth: .74<BR> Cadmium: .16<BR> Lead: 5.6 <BR> Mercury: .1 <BR> Platinum: <.003<BR> Thallium: <.001<BR> Thorium: .008<BR> Uranium: .015<BR> Nickel: .27<BR> Silver: .25<BR> Tin: .69<BR> Titanium: 1.5<BR> <BR> Calcium: 135<BR> Magnesium: 11<BR> Sodium: 2.0<BR> Potassium: 5.0<BR> Copper: 11<BR> Zinc: 100<BR> Manganese: .43<BR> Chromium: .36<BR> Vanadium: .064<BR> Molybdenum: .14<BR> Boron: 2.3<BR> Iodine: 3.6<BR> Lithium: .013<BR> Phosphorus: 220<BR> Selenium: 1.4 <BR> Strontium: .25<BR> Sulfur: 54500<BR> Barium: .28<BR> Cobalt: .022<BR> Iron: 21<BR> Germanium: .069<BR> Rubidium: 02<BR> Zirconium: .51<BR> <BR> <BR> Urine 09/14/03: (ug/g)<BR> <BR> Arsenic: 42<BR> Lead: 84<BR> Mercury: 6.3<BR> Tin: 19<BR> <BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> </tr> <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> <td align=center width=470><a href= " http://rd./M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705061\ 616:HM/A=1524963/R=0/SIG=12o885gmo/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autoredir?cam\ p=556 & lineid=3614674 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM " ><img src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/sl/sleepangel/sleep_300x250.gif " alt= " " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td> </tr> <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l?M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupmai\ l/S=:HM/A=1524963/rand=703648260 " ></td></tr> </table> <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> <br> <tt> =======================================================<BR> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2003 Report Share Posted October 12, 2003 > My son has just started on DMSA about 2 weeks ago. (1) 100 mg dose > once a day, 5 days on and 5 days off. This is the wrong way to do it. DMSA must be given every 4 hours 'round the clock for several days in a row, or not at all. > I have noticed from the postings that most children his age seem to > be on a lower dose of DMSA. Is his dose too high? Yup. 10 mg would be a lot more reasonable. >Considering his > lead levels are so high we were anxious to start right away. > > Is there any further testing that we should do to try and pinpoint > his condition and treatment needs more accurately? Probably not, but repost the hair test in the format described at /files/HOW_TO_hair_test if you aren't able to interpret it yourself from the instructions there. > When should we add in ALA? After you get the basics of proper chelation down. >I am concerned about adding it too early > with all the bad things floating around and exposing his brain to > further damage. That isn't a proper concern. Appropriate versus inappropriate and harmful chelation protocols is the concern. Chelation has to be done properly. > His overall condition has improved significantly since we started the > DMSA. He is also noticeably better on " On " days than he is on " Off " > days. His therapists have independently verified this through their > reports and they aren't aware of the DMSA or the schedule > > Thanks in advance, > > Ed > > Test Results > > Hair 6/30/03: (ug/g) > > Aluminum 15 > Antimony .21 > Arsenic: .3 > Beryllium: <.01 > Bismuth: .74 > Cadmium: .16 > Lead: 5.6 > Mercury: .1 > Platinum: <.003 > Thallium: <.001 > Thorium: .008 > Uranium: .015 > Nickel: .27 > Silver: .25 > Tin: .69 > Titanium: 1.5 > > Calcium: 135 > Magnesium: 11 > Sodium: 2.0 > Potassium: 5.0 > Copper: 11 > Zinc: 100 > Manganese: .43 > Chromium: .36 > Vanadium: .064 > Molybdenum: .14 > Boron: 2.3 > Iodine: 3.6 > Lithium: .013 > Phosphorus: 220 > Selenium: 1.4 > Strontium: .25 > Sulfur: 54500 > Barium: .28 > Cobalt: .022 > Iron: 21 > Germanium: .069 > Rubidium: 02 > Zirconium: .51 > > > Urine 09/14/03: (ug/g) > > Arsenic: 42 > Lead: 84 > Mercury: 6.3 > Ti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Thanks for the reply Lissy. No my son has no amalgam fillings. Yes we have a DAN doctor. I am reposting the test results here in the preferred format. POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS element result ref range color ============================================== aluminum 15 < 8.0 yellow antimony 0.21 < .066 red arsenic 0.3 < .08 red beryllium <0.01 < 0.02 no line bismuth .74 < .13 red cadmium .16 < .15 yellow lead 5.6 < 1.0 red mercury 0.1 < 0.4 green platinum <.003 < .005 no line thallium < .001 < .01 no line thorium .008 < .005 yellow uranium .015 < .06 green nickel .27 < .4 green silver .25 < .2 yellow tin .69 < .3 yellow titanium 1.5 < 1.0 yellow ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS element result ref range color under/over 50% ============================================================ Calcium 135 125-370 green under 50% Magnesium 11 12-30 yellow under 50% Sodium 2.0 12-90 red under 50% Potassium 5.0 12-40 yellow under 50% Copper 11 8.0-16 white under 50% Zinc 100 100-190 green under 50% Manganese 0.43 0.2-0.55 green over 50% Chromium 0.36 0.26-0.5 white over 50% Vanadium 0.064 0.03-0.1 green over 50% Molybdenum 0.14 0.05-0.13 yellow over 50% Boron 2.3 0.6-4.0 green over 50% Iodine 3.6 0.25-1.3 yellow over 50% Lithium 0.013 0.007-0.023 green over 50% Phosphorus 220 160-250 green over 50% Selenium 1.4 0.95-1.7 green over 50% Strontium 0.25 0.16-1.0 green under 50% Sulfur 54500 45500-53000 yellow over 50% Barium 0.28 0.16-0.8 green under 50% Cobalt 0.022 0.013-0.035 white over 50% Iron 21 8.0-19 yellow over 50% Germanium 0.069 0.045-0.065 yellow over 50% Rubidium 0.02 0.016-0.18 green under 50% Zirconium 0.51 0.04-1.0 green over 50% --- In , " Alysia Spear " <spear009@u...> wrote: > Hi Ed, > > Welcome. You are in the right place. > The Files section of this list has lots of information that you need asap, if you haven't accessed these already. > > The DMSA schedule you are using is not good. I'm thinking you should discontinue until others on the list can advise you on a better dosing schedule and also other testing you may wish to consider. > > There is a file on hair testing that will help you resubmit your son's hair results so that we can all better understand what is going on with him. > > I have two immediate questions: does your son have any amalgam (silver dental fillings)? and are you working with a health care provider of some sort? > > Hope to hear back from you soon > Lissy > [ ] Test results & Treatment (sorry but this is long) > > > I have been lurking (and reading) on the list for quite awhile. I > respect the first-hand knowledge of the group and I am looking for a > little feedback. > > My son 2.7 (34 lbs) has recently taken a hair and urine test. Test > results are listed in detail below. The urine test was DMSA provoked > (250 mg). In the original hair test he showed very high Lead and low > Mercury. When we got the urine test back he showed very elevated > levels of both. > > My son has just started on DMSA about 2 weeks ago. (1) 100 mg dose > once a day, 5 days on and 5 days off. > > I have noticed from the postings that most children his age seem to > be on a lower dose of DMSA. Is his dose too high? Considering his > lead levels are so high we were anxious to start right away. > > Is there any further testing that we should do to try and pinpoint > his condition and treatment needs more accurately? > > When should we add in ALA? I am concerned about adding it too early > with all the bad things floating around and exposing his brain to > further damage. > > His overall condition has improved significantly since we started the > DMSA. He is also noticeably better on " On " days than he is on " Off " > days. His therapists have independently verified this through their > reports and they aren't aware of the DMSA or the schedule > > Thanks in advance, > > Ed > > Test Results > > Hair 6/30/03: (ug/g) > > Aluminum 15 > Antimony .21 > Arsenic: .3 > Beryllium: <.01 > Bismuth: .74 > Cadmium: .16 > Lead: 5.6 > Mercury: .1 > Platinum: <.003 > Thallium: <.001 > Thorium: .008 > Uranium: .015 > Nickel: .27 > Silver: .25 > Tin: .69 > Titanium: 1.5 > > Calcium: 135 > Magnesium: 11 > Sodium: 2.0 > Potassium: 5.0 > Copper: 11 > Zinc: 100 > Manganese: .43 > Chromium: .36 > Vanadium: .064 > Molybdenum: .14 > Boron: 2.3 > Iodine: 3.6 > Lithium: .013 > Phosphorus: 220 > Selenium: 1.4 > Strontium: .25 > Sulfur: 54500 > Barium: .28 > Cobalt: .022 > Iron: 21 > Germanium: .069 > Rubidium: 02 > Zirconium: .51 > > > Urine 09/14/03: (ug/g) > > Arsenic: 42 > Lead: 84 > Mercury: 6.3 > Tin: 19 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Thanks for the reply . Can you please explain (or point me to an explanation) how the higher dose redistributes the mercury to other parts of the body. I went through the counting rules and it doesn't seem that any of the first 3 show that Jack has mercury toxicity. However it was found in his urine test last month at high level. The urine test was provoked with 250 MG of DMSA. We live in an old house and we are pretty certain that is the source of the exposure. We are eliminating exposure points as quickly as possible but there are many. All the bathrooms have/had lead based tile and the tub in the kids bathroom was a very old cast iron tub that we got rid of. Then there is the paint... -- In , " Shepard " <_Shepard@e...> wrote: > > Ed, > Welcome to the list. The dose of DMSA you're giving is high and the dosing schedule potentially harmful. 1/8 - 1/2 mg per pound of child given every 4 hrs day and night is what Andy Cutler, PhD (in Chemistry) recommends to avoid redistributing the mercury (or lead) to other parts of the body. > > > If you did DDI hair analysis check the FAQs of this list for counting rules to check for disordered mineral transport which often signifies mercury toxicity. Many post test results to the list for help interpreting them. > > > Have you identified and reduced/eliminated the source of exposure to lead? > > > S > > > > > My son 2.7 (34 lbs) has recently taken a hair and urine test. Test <BR> > results are listed in detail below. The urine test was DMSA provoked <BR> > (250 mg). In the original hair test he showed very high Lead and low <BR> > Mercury. When we got the urine test back he showed very elevated <BR> > levels of both. <BR> > <BR> > My son has just started on DMSA about 2 weeks ago. (1) 100 mg dose <BR> > once a day, 5 days on and 5 days off. <BR> > <BR> > I have noticed from the postings that most children his age seem to <BR> > be on a lower dose of DMSA. Is his dose too high? Considering his <BR> > lead levels are so high we were anxious to start right away.<BR> > <BR> > Is there any further testing that we should do to try and pinpoint <BR> > his condition and treatment needs more accurately?<BR> > <BR> > When should we add in ALA? I am concerned about adding it too early <BR> > with all the bad things floating around and exposing his brain to <BR> > further damage.<BR> > <BR> > His overall condition has improved significantly since we started the <BR> > DMSA. He is also noticeably better on " On " days than he is on " Off " <BR> > days. His therapists have independently verified this through their <BR> > reports and they aren't aware of the DMSA or the schedule <BR> > <BR> > Thanks in advance,<BR> > <BR> > Ed<BR> > <BR> > Test Results<BR> > <BR> > Hair 6/30/03: (ug/g)<BR> > <BR> > Aluminum 15 <BR> > Antimony .21 <BR> > Arsenic: .3 <BR> > Beryllium: <.01 <BR> > Bismuth: .74<BR> > Cadmium: .16<BR> > Lead: 5.6 <BR> > Mercury: .1 <BR> > Platinum: <.003<BR> > Thallium: <.001<BR> > Thorium: .008<BR> > Uranium: .015<BR> > Nickel: .27<BR> > Silver: .25<BR> > Tin: .69<BR> > Titanium: 1.5<BR> > <BR> > Calcium: 135<BR> > Magnesium: 11<BR> > Sodium: 2.0<BR> > Potassium: 5.0<BR> > Copper: 11<BR> > Zinc: 100<BR> > Manganese: .43<BR> > Chromium: .36<BR> > Vanadium: .064<BR> > Molybdenum: .14<BR> > Boron: 2.3<BR> > Iodine: 3.6<BR> > Lithium: .013<BR> > Phosphorus: 220<BR> > Selenium: 1.4 <BR> > Strontium: .25<BR> > Sulfur: 54500<BR> > Barium: .28<BR> > Cobalt: .022<BR> > Iron: 21<BR> > Germanium: .069<BR> > Rubidium: 02<BR> > Zirconium: .51<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > Urine 09/14/03: (ug/g)<BR> > <BR> > Arsenic: 42<BR> > Lead: 84<BR> > Mercury: 6.3<BR> > Tin: 19<BR> > <BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --> > > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> Sponsor</b></font></td> > </tr> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF> > <td align=center width=470><a href= " http://rd./M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupweb /S=1705061616:HM/A=1524963/R=0/SIG=12o885gmo/*http://hits.411web.com/c gi-bin/autoredir?camp=556 & lineid=3614674 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM " ><img src= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/sl/sleepangel/sleep_300x250.g if " alt= " " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td> > </tr> > <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 src= " http://us.adserver./l? M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupmail/S=:HM/A=1524963/rand=703 648260 " ></td></tr> > </table> > > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --> > > > <br> > <tt> > =======================================================<BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Thank you I appreciate your experience and committment to the board. Just to be clear, would you recommend 10 mg every 4 hours? I have reposted the results in the preferred format in an earlier reply. I would appreciate any feedback you might have after looking at the results. I also applied the counting rules and the results showed no mercury toxicity at least in answering the first 3 questions. But his mercury levels were in the red after a provoked urine test. (250 mg DMSA one dose) Would you be comfortable adding in the ALA now if the dose is adjusted to the protocol you recommend or is there more to do before adding it in? Thanks again, Ed > > My son has just started on DMSA about 2 weeks ago. (1) 100 mg dose > > once a day, 5 days on and 5 days off. > > This is the wrong way to do it. DMSA must be given every 4 hours > 'round the clock for several days in a row, or not at all. > > > I have noticed from the postings that most children his age seem to > > be on a lower dose of DMSA. Is his dose too high? > > Yup. 10 mg would be a lot more reasonable. > > >Considering his > > lead levels are so high we were anxious to start right away. > > > > Is there any further testing that we should do to try and pinpoint > > his condition and treatment needs more accurately? > > Probably not, but repost the hair test in the format described at > > /files/HOW_TO_hair_test > > if you aren't able to interpret it yourself from the instructions > there. > > > When should we add in ALA? > > After you get the basics of proper chelation down. > > >I am concerned about adding it too early > > with all the bad things floating around and exposing his brain to > > further damage. > > That isn't a proper concern. Appropriate versus inappropriate and > harmful chelation protocols is the concern. Chelation has to be done > properly. > > > His overall condition has improved significantly since we started > the > > DMSA. He is also noticeably better on " On " days than he is on " Off " > > days. His therapists have independently verified this through their > > reports and they aren't aware of the DMSA or the schedule > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Ed > > > > Test Results > > > > Hair 6/30/03: (ug/g) > > > > Aluminum 15 > > Antimony .21 > > Arsenic: .3 > > Beryllium: <.01 > > Bismuth: .74 > > Cadmium: .16 > > Lead: 5.6 > > Mercury: .1 > > Platinum: <.003 > > Thallium: <.001 > > Thorium: .008 > > Uranium: .015 > > Nickel: .27 > > Silver: .25 > > Tin: .69 > > Titanium: 1.5 > > > > Calcium: 135 > > Magnesium: 11 > > Sodium: 2.0 > > Potassium: 5.0 > > Copper: 11 > > Zinc: 100 > > Manganese: .43 > > Chromium: .36 > > Vanadium: .064 > > Molybdenum: .14 > > Boron: 2.3 > > Iodine: 3.6 > > Lithium: .013 > > Phosphorus: 220 > > Selenium: 1.4 > > Strontium: .25 > > Sulfur: 54500 > > Barium: .28 > > Cobalt: .022 > > Iron: 21 > > Germanium: .069 > > Rubidium: 02 > > Zirconium: .51 > > > > > > Urine 09/14/03: (ug/g) > > > > Arsenic: 42 > > Lead: 84 > > Mercury: 6.3 > > Ti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2003 Report Share Posted October 13, 2003 Ed, It's the infrequency of dosing that causes redistribution. Chelation is Greek for claw. The chelation agent latches onto the toxin it chelates but doesn't have a particularly tight hold. One wants to keep a steady amount in the blood stream so that the chelator can escort out the toxins. By dosing infrequently the chelator grabs and drops the toxins many times in various parts of the body. Andy Cutler's explantation of this goes into more detail and higher level explanation. Check the FAQs of this list under dosing. He also explains that higher doses do not mean proportionally higher toxin removed but does mean at least proportionally higher risk of side effects. S <BR> > My son 2.7 (34 lbs) has recently taken a hair and urine test. Test <BR> <BR><BR> > results are listed in detail below. The urine test was DMSA <BR> provoked <BR><BR> > (250 mg). In the original hair test he showed very high Lead and <BR> low <BR><BR> > Mercury. When we got the urine test back he showed very elevated <BR> <BR><BR> > levels of both. <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > My son has just started on DMSA about 2 weeks ago. (1) 100 mg dose <BR> <BR><BR> > once a day, 5 days on and 5 days off. <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > I have noticed from the postings that most children his age seem to <BR> <BR><BR> > be on a lower dose of DMSA. Is his dose too high? Considering his <BR> <BR><BR> > lead levels are so high we were anxious to start right away.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Is there any further testing that we should do to try and pinpoint <BR> <BR><BR> > his condition and treatment needs more accurately?<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > When should we add in ALA? I am concerned about adding it too <BR> early <BR><BR> > with all the bad things floating around and exposing his brain to <BR> <BR><BR> > further damage.<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > His overall condition has improved significantly since we started <BR> the <BR><BR> > DMSA. He is also noticeably better on " On " days than he is <BR> on " Off " <BR><BR> > days. His therapists have independently verified this through <BR> their <BR><BR> > reports and they aren't aware of the DMSA or the schedule <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Thanks in advance,<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Ed<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Test Results<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Hair 6/30/03: (ug/g)<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Aluminum 15 <BR><BR> > Antimony .21 <BR><BR> > Arsenic: .3 <BR><BR> > Beryllium: <.01 <BR><BR> > Bismuth: .74<BR><BR> > Cadmium: .16<BR><BR> > Lead: 5.6 <BR><BR> > Mercury: .1 <BR><BR> > Platinum: <.003<BR><BR> > Thallium: <.001<BR><BR> > Thorium: .008<BR><BR> > Uranium: .015<BR><BR> > Nickel: .27<BR><BR> > Silver: .25<BR><BR> > Tin: .69<BR><BR> > Titanium: 1.5<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Calcium: 135<BR><BR> > Magnesium: 11<BR><BR> > Sodium: 2.0<BR><BR> > Potassium: 5.0<BR><BR> > Copper: 11<BR><BR> > Zinc: 100<BR><BR> > Manganese: .43<BR><BR> > Chromium: .36<BR><BR> > Vanadium: .064<BR><BR> > Molybdenum: .14<BR><BR> > Boron: 2.3<BR><BR> > Iodine: 3.6<BR><BR> > Lithium: .013<BR><BR> > Phosphorus: 220<BR><BR> > Selenium: 1.4 <BR><BR> > Strontium: .25<BR><BR> > Sulfur: 54500<BR><BR> > Barium: .28<BR><BR> > Cobalt: .022<BR><BR> > Iron: 21<BR><BR> > Germanium: .069<BR><BR> > Rubidium: 02<BR><BR> > Zirconium: .51<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Urine 09/14/03: (ug/g)<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > Arsenic: 42<BR><BR> > Lead: 84<BR><BR> > Mercury: 6.3<BR><BR> > Tin: 19<BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > <BR><BR> > </tt><BR> > <BR> > <br><BR> > <BR> > <!-- |**|begin egp html banner|**| --><BR> > <BR> > <table border=0 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=2><BR> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFCC><BR> > <td align=center><font size= " -1 " color=#003399><b> <BR> Sponsor</b></font></td><BR> > </tr><BR> > <tr bgcolor=#FFFFFF><BR> > <td align=center width=470><a <BR> href= " <a href= " http://rd./M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupweb " >http://r\ d./M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupweb</a><BR> /S=1705061616:HM/A=1524963/R=0/SIG=12o885gmo/*<a href= " http://hits.411web.com/c " >http://hits.411web.com/c</a><BR> gi-bin/autoredir?camp=556 & lineid=3614674 & prop=egroupweb & pos=HM " ><img <BR> src= " <a href= " http://us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/sl/sleepangel/sleep_300x250.g " >http://\ us.a1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/a/sl/sleepangel/sleep_300x250.g</a><BR> if " alt= " " width= " 300 " height= " 250 " border= " 0 " ></a></td><BR> > </tr><BR> > <tr><td><img alt= " " width=1 height=1 <BR> src= " <a href= " http://us.adserver./l? " >http://us.adserver./l?</a><BR> M=259395.3614674.4902533.1261774/D=egroupmail/S=:HM/A=1524963/rand=703<BR> 648260 " ></td></tr><BR> > </table><BR> > <BR> > <!-- |**|end egp html banner|**| --><BR> > <BR> > <BR> > <br><BR> > <tt><BR> > =======================================================<BR><BR> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 14, 2003 Report Share Posted October 14, 2003 > > Hi Ed, > > > > Welcome. You are in the right place. > > The Files section of this list has lots of information that you > need asap, if you haven't accessed these already. > > > > The DMSA schedule you are using is not good. I'm thinking you > should discontinue until others on the list can advise you on a > better dosing schedule and also other testing you may wish to > consider. > > > > There is a file on hair testing that will help you resubmit your > son's hair results so that we can all better understand what is going > on with him. > > > > I have two immediate questions: does your son have any amalgam > (silver dental fillings)? and are you working with a health care > provider of some sort? > > > > Hope to hear back from you soon > > Lissy > > [ ] Test results & Treatment (sorry but > this is long) > > > > > > I have been lurking (and reading) on the list for quite awhile. > I > > respect the first-hand knowledge of the group and I am looking > for a > > little feedback. > > > > My son 2.7 (34 lbs) has recently taken a hair and urine test. > Test > > results are listed in detail below. The urine test was DMSA > provoked > > (250 mg). In the original hair test he showed very high Lead and > low > > Mercury. When we got the urine test back he showed very elevated > > levels of both. > > > > My son has just started on DMSA about 2 weeks ago. (1) 100 mg > dose > > once a day, 5 days on and 5 days off. > > > > I have noticed from the postings that most children his age seem > to > > be on a lower dose of DMSA. Is his dose too high? Considering > his > > lead levels are so high we were anxious to start right away. > > > > Is there any further testing that we should do to try and > pinpoint > > his condition and treatment needs more accurately? > > > > When should we add in ALA? I am concerned about adding it too > early > > with all the bad things floating around and exposing his brain to > > further damage. > > > > His overall condition has improved significantly since we started > the > > DMSA. He is also noticeably better on " On " days than he is > on " Off " > > days. His therapists have independently verified this through > their > > reports and they aren't aware of the DMSA or the schedule > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Ed > > > > Test Results > > > > Hair 6/30/03: (ug/g) > > > > Aluminum 15 > > Antimony .21 > > Arsenic: .3 > > Beryllium: <.01 > > Bismuth: .74 > > Cadmium: .16 > > Lead: 5.6 > > Mercury: .1 > > Platinum: <.003 > > Thallium: <.001 > > Thorium: .008 > > Uranium: .015 > > Nickel: .27 > > Silver: .25 > > Tin: .69 > > Titanium: 1.5 > > > > Calcium: 135 > > Magnesium: 11 > > Sodium: 2.0 > > Potassium: 5.0 > > Copper: 11 > > Zinc: 100 > > Manganese: .43 > > Chromium: .36 > > Vanadium: .064 > > Molybdenum: .14 > > Boron: 2.3 > > Iodine: 3.6 > > Lithium: .013 > > Phosphorus: 220 > > Selenium: 1.4 > > Strontium: .25 > > Sulfur: 54500 > > Barium: .28 > > Cobalt: .022 > > Iron: 21 > > Germanium: .069 > > Rubidium: 02 > > Zirconium: .51 > > > > > > Urine 09/14/03: (ug/g) > > > > Arsenic: 42 > > Lead: 84 > > Mercury: 6.3 > > Tin: 19 > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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