Re: Need advice /changes in dose ALA. I Had The Same Problem Last Night.

[Guest guest]

> I'm chelating my 2 year old using ALA--and Andy's protocol. 20 mg

> every 3 hours. My problem is at night I've been using a medicine

> dropper which is normally effective, but last night he spit some

of

> it back out. And he fought me this morning and spit some out. Of

> course I don't know how much it is(the spit out portion) so I

tried

> to give him a little more, not very effectively.

>

> Anyway my question is that if some of the doses of ALA are not the

> same (I don't think it would have been less than half) is that

still

> okay? If he only manages to get 10 mg when normally it's 20mg is

> that still effective?

>

> I'm on day 3 and want to make sure I should keep going through the

> day and not stop.

>

> Thanks so much.

>

I'd like to know the answer to this question also. My daughter spit

hers out in the middle of the night too. She takes it just fine

during the day. I've been trying to give it too her without waking

her up. I suspect that's the problem. Do you wake your kids to

dose them? Do you re-dose if they spit some out?

Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the undisolved

part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should I

shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

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Hi ,

I thought myself it was a pretty important question. I've read

through all of Andy's index and didn't see it. Maybe I missed it and

should read it all again because I don't think my question will be

answered on the board.

Anyway, my son didn't have any real negative reactions once we

stopped so I figured it was probably okay if he didn't get the whole

dose. I knew that if we did something wrong that we would see it.

On your other question I'm not sure. I can't get the solid to mix up

with the liquid at all but since I use the large medicine dropper it

all comes out anyway. I just keep adding a little liquid until it

all is out of the dropper.

Thanks for responding and good luck to finding answers wherever they

might be.

> > I'm chelating my 2 year old using ALA--and Andy's protocol. 20

mg

> > every 3 hours. My problem is at night I've been using a medicine

> > dropper which is normally effective, but last night he spit some

> of

> > it back out. And he fought me this morning and spit some out. Of

> > course I don't know how much it is(the spit out portion) so I

> tried

> > to give him a little more, not very effectively.

> >

> > Anyway my question is that if some of the doses of ALA are not

the

> > same (I don't think it would have been less than half) is that

> still

> > okay? If he only manages to get 10 mg when normally it's 20mg is

> > that still effective?

> >

> > I'm on day 3 and want to make sure I should keep going through

the

> > day and not stop.

> >

> > Thanks so much.

> >

>

> I'd like to know the answer to this question also. My daughter

spit

> hers out in the middle of the night too. She takes it just fine

> during the day. I've been trying to give it too her without

waking

> her up. I suspect that's the problem. Do you wake your kids to

> dose them? Do you re-dose if they spit some out?

>

> Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

> answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

> disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the

undisolved

> part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should I

> shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

>

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P.S. ,

Sorry forgot to answer your other question. My son WILL NOT wake up

no matter what you do. I just use one of those large medicine

droppers that you get from the doctor and squirt in the side of his

mouth. He will fight me even while he's sleeping but will not wake

up. He wouldn't take it even if he was.

When he spits some out I've been trying to add a little more, but as

I don't know how much to spit out I don't know how much to readd.

> > I'm chelating my 2 year old using ALA--and Andy's protocol. 20

mg

> > every 3 hours. My problem is at night I've been using a medicine

> > dropper which is normally effective, but last night he spit some

> of

> > it back out. And he fought me this morning and spit some out. Of

> > course I don't know how much it is(the spit out portion) so I

> tried

> > to give him a little more, not very effectively.

> >

> > Anyway my question is that if some of the doses of ALA are not

the

> > same (I don't think it would have been less than half) is that

> still

> > okay? If he only manages to get 10 mg when normally it's 20mg is

> > that still effective?

> >

> > I'm on day 3 and want to make sure I should keep going through

the

> > day and not stop.

> >

> > Thanks so much.

> >

>

> I'd like to know the answer to this question also. My daughter

spit

> hers out in the middle of the night too. She takes it just fine

> during the day. I've been trying to give it too her without

waking

> her up. I suspect that's the problem. Do you wake your kids to

> dose them? Do you re-dose if they spit some out?

>

> Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

> answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

> disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the

undisolved

> part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should I

> shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

>

[Guest guest]

,

I'm so glad your Son didn't have any negative effects. I didn't

see any with my daughter either. I've also read all of Andy's index

and haven't seen anything about our question either or about getting

the ALA to mix up. I keep checking back here hoping someone will

answer. If I do find an answer I'll be sure to let you know.

> > > I'm chelating my 2 year old using ALA--and Andy's protocol. 20

> mg

> > > every 3 hours. My problem is at night I've been using a

medicine

> > > dropper which is normally effective, but last night he spit

some

> > of

> > > it back out. And he fought me this morning and spit some out.

Of

> > > course I don't know how much it is(the spit out portion) so I

> > tried

> > > to give him a little more, not very effectively.

> > >

> > > Anyway my question is that if some of the doses of ALA are not

> the

> > > same (I don't think it would have been less than half) is that

> > still

> > > okay? If he only manages to get 10 mg when normally it's 20mg

is

> > > that still effective?

> > >

> > > I'm on day 3 and want to make sure I should keep going through

> the

> > > day and not stop.

> > >

> > > Thanks so much.

> > >

> >

> > I'd like to know the answer to this question also. My daughter

> spit

> > hers out in the middle of the night too. She takes it just fine

> > during the day. I've been trying to give it too her without

> waking

> > her up. I suspect that's the problem. Do you wake your kids to

> > dose them? Do you re-dose if they spit some out?

> >

> > Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

> > answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

> > disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the

> undisolved

> > part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should I

> > shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

> >

[Guest guest]

> > > I'm chelating my 2 year old using ALA--and Andy's protocol. 20

> mg

> > > every 3 hours. My problem is at night I've been using a medicine

> > > dropper which is normally effective, but last night he spit some

> > of

> > > it back out. And he fought me this morning and spit some out. Of

> > > course I don't know how much it is(the spit out portion) so I

> > tried

> > > to give him a little more, not very effectively.

> > >

> > > Anyway my question is that if some of the doses of ALA are not

> the

> > > same (I don't think it would have been less than half) is that

> > still

> > > okay? If he only manages to get 10 mg when normally it's 20mg is

> > > that still effective?

> > >

> > > I'm on day 3 and want to make sure I should keep going through

> the

> > > day and not stop.

> > >

> > > Thanks so much.

> > >

> >

> > I'd like to know the answer to this question also. My daughter

> spit

> > hers out in the middle of the night too. She takes it just fine

> > during the day. I've been trying to give it too her without

> waking

> > her up. I suspect that's the problem. Do you wake your kids to

> > dose them? Do you re-dose if they spit some out?

> >

> > Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

> > answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

> > disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the

> undisolved

> > part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should I

> > shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks!

> > > > I'm chelating my 2 year old using ALA--and Andy's protocol.

20

> > mg

> > > > every 3 hours. My problem is at night I've been using a

> medicine

> > > > dropper which is normally effective, but last night he spit

> some

> > > of

> > > > it back out. And he fought me this morning and spit some

out.

> Of

> > > > course I don't know how much it is(the spit out portion) so

I

> > > tried

> > > > to give him a little more, not very effectively.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway my question is that if some of the doses of ALA are

not

> > the

> > > > same (I don't think it would have been less than half) is

that

> > > still

> > > > okay? If he only manages to get 10 mg when normally it's

20mg

> is

> > > > that still effective?

> > > >

> > > > I'm on day 3 and want to make sure I should keep going

through

> > the

> > > > day and not stop.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks so much.

> > > >

> > >

> > > I'd like to know the answer to this question also. My

daughter

> > spit

> > > hers out in the middle of the night too. She takes it just

fine

> > > during the day. I've been trying to give it too her without

> > waking

> > > her up. I suspect that's the problem. Do you wake your kids

to

> > > dose them? Do you re-dose if they spit some out?

> > >

> > > Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

> > > answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

> > > disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the

> > undisolved

> > > part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should

I

> > > shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Moria,

I think he's swallowing at least half. Then I give him a little more

because I'm afraid if I give him too much that it will be the same

problem with a variation in dosage. He fights that dose also. So I

want to GUESS he's getting between the 10-20 mg,(His regular dose is

20-25mg) but my original question was if he just got half of his

normal dose is that okay? Does anything get screwed up with the

chelation? I guess I'm trying to figure out what range is okay. Can

you be 10 mg off ...? I'm already a few milligrams off here and

there because of pill cutting.

We don't have problems too much the first few days but towards the

end he is really fighting me! He has no receptive language so

there's no talking to him or calming him.

But it's like I told , since I saw no real negative effects

the day after I figured that I did everything okay.(I first posted

this question before I knew for sure)

Thank you,

> > > > I'm chelating my 2 year old using ALA--and Andy's protocol.

20

> > mg

> > > > every 3 hours. My problem is at night I've been using a

medicine

> > > > dropper which is normally effective, but last night he spit

some

> > > of

> > > > it back out. And he fought me this morning and spit some

out. Of

> > > > course I don't know how much it is(the spit out portion) so

I

> > > tried

> > > > to give him a little more, not very effectively.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway my question is that if some of the doses of ALA are

not

> > the

> > > > same (I don't think it would have been less than half) is

that

> > > still

> > > > okay? If he only manages to get 10 mg when normally it's

20mg is

> > > > that still effective?

> > > >

> > > > I'm on day 3 and want to make sure I should keep going

through

> > the

> > > > day and not stop.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks so much.

> > > >

> > >

> > > I'd like to know the answer to this question also. My

daughter

> > spit

> > > hers out in the middle of the night too. She takes it just

fine

> > > during the day. I've been trying to give it too her without

> > waking

> > > her up. I suspect that's the problem. Do you wake your kids

to

> > > dose them? Do you re-dose if they spit some out?

> > >

> > > Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

> > > answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

> > > disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the

> > undisolved

> > > part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should

I

> > > shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

> > >

[Guest guest]

Thanks Moria. It is ALA only I'm trying to mix. I'll try another

brand and see if its any better.

>

> I'm sorry, I think I'm getting lost--- um-- is it the mixing

> question you are referring to here?

>

> I don't know the answer to the question. Neither option sounds

> very good. Hoever, if it is ALA only that you are mixing, you

> might try a different brand. ALA is soooooo available. I have

> tested mixing a couple of brands in the past when similar issues

> were discussed. I think it was Trader Joe's brand that mixed

> well both times I tried it??? But I only tried it w/ the 2

> brands I happen to have on hand. Anyway, there is a thought

> anyhow, try another brand.

>

> In general, kids spitting stuff out is not good, since then

> they are getting either less or none that dose, and it may

> be hard to tell how much is spit out. Hopefully they are

> swallowing most of it? If spitting most out, can you try

> giving some more?

>

> best,

> Moria

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> I think he's swallowing at least half. Then I give him a little more

> because I'm afraid if I give him too much that it will be the same

> problem with a variation in dosage. He fights that dose also. So I

> want to GUESS he's getting between the 10-20 mg,(His regular dose is

> 20-25mg) but my original question was if he just got half of his

> normal dose is that okay? Does anything get screwed up with the

> chelation? I guess I'm trying to figure out what range is okay. Can

> you be 10 mg off ...? I'm already a few milligrams off here and

> there because of pill cutting.

well, I don't know. In your case 10 mg is 50% of the dose,

so it seems like a lot. But you can really only do so much

about this, so do what you can and that's it.

best,

Moria

[Guest guest]

I add a few drops of honey to the powder and then add the water--

it seems to mix up better when you first mix it with honey.

[ ] Re: Need advice /changes in dose ALA. I Had The

Same Problem Last Night.

> ,

> I'm so glad your Son didn't have any negative effects. I didn't

> see any with my daughter either. I've also read all of Andy's index

> and haven't seen anything about our question either or about getting

> the ALA to mix up. I keep checking back here hoping someone will

> answer. If I do find an answer I'll be sure to let you know.

>

>

>

> > > > I'm chelating my 2 year old using ALA--and Andy's protocol. 20

> > mg

> > > > every 3 hours. My problem is at night I've been using a

> medicine

> > > > dropper which is normally effective, but last night he spit

> some

> > > of

> > > > it back out. And he fought me this morning and spit some out.

> Of

> > > > course I don't know how much it is(the spit out portion) so I

> > > tried

> > > > to give him a little more, not very effectively.

> > > >

> > > > Anyway my question is that if some of the doses of ALA are not

> > the

> > > > same (I don't think it would have been less than half) is that

> > > still

> > > > okay? If he only manages to get 10 mg when normally it's 20mg

> is

> > > > that still effective?

> > > >

> > > > I'm on day 3 and want to make sure I should keep going through

> > the

> > > > day and not stop.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks so much.

> > > >

> > >

> > > I'd like to know the answer to this question also. My daughter

> > spit

> > > hers out in the middle of the night too. She takes it just fine

> > > during the day. I've been trying to give it too her without

> > waking

> > > her up. I suspect that's the problem. Do you wake your kids to

> > > dose them? Do you re-dose if they spit some out?

> > >

> > > Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

> > > answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

> > > disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the

> > undisolved

> > > part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should I

> > > shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

> > >

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

I have not used ALA yet, but I had the same problem with DMSA. I

changed brand after finishing the bottle and it does not happen

anymore. At the time I had this problem, Andy Cutler responded that

it was probably the filler. You can search in the archives msg

#81372. I do NOT know if it is the same with ALA, but if it is also

the filler, then you are fine, the ALA is disolved.

Frederique

>

> > Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

> > answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

> > disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the

> undisolved

> > part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should I

> > shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

> >

[Guest guest]

--- In , " dhooten " <dhooten@a...>

wrote:

> I add a few drops of honey to the powder and then add the water--

> it seems to mix up better when you first mix it with honey.

>

>

Thank you, . I'll definately give that a try!

[Guest guest]

>

> I have not used ALA yet, but I had the same problem with DMSA. I

> changed brand after finishing the bottle and it does not happen

> anymore. At the time I had this problem, Andy Cutler responded

that

> it was probably the filler. You can search in the archives msg

> #81372. I do NOT know if it is the same with ALA, but if it is

also

> the filler, then you are fine, the ALA is disolved.

>

> Frederique

>

Frederique,

I don't think the post # you refered to me is the right one. Could

you check for me? And thank you very much for your reply.

> > > Also, I posted this question seperately but haven't gotten an

> > > answer. When I mix the ALA with juice or water it doesn't all

> > > disolve no matter how long I shake it. Should I let the

> > undisolved

> > > part settle and only give the liquid from the top? OR should

I

> > > shake it up right before giving it so the solids mix in? TIA

> > >