Re: PROBIOTICS METHYLIZE MERCURY?

[Guest guest]

I'm not a scientist either but if you DON'T have amalgams, wouldn't it be a

not so bad thing if inorganic mercury was converted to methyl mercury as the

body could more easily get rid of it?

Do you have the links for the articles?

Marti

[Guest guest]

Hi, Marti

It was an article in the November 2002 issue of " Dental Truth, " a publication of

DAMS. The title was " Probiotics Can Methylate Your Mercury, Dr. Ray Warns. "

DAMS' number is 800-311-6265, and they seem pretty helpful. Perhaps they

wouldn't mind sending you a complimentary copy.

Interesting question. I'm new at this, so I have no idea if it wouldn't be such

a bad thing.

Lati

Re: [ ] PROBIOTICS METHYLIZE MERCURY?

I'm not a scientist either but if you DON'T have amalgams, wouldn't it be a

not so bad thing if inorganic mercury was converted to methyl mercury as the

body could more easily get rid of it?

Do you have the links for the articles?

Marti

[Guest guest]

I'm not a scientist, either, but my initial reaction to this is that

Tim Ray might be talking apples and oranges here? Maybe it depends on

the definition of probiotics. Or, maybe he's correct in saying that

yeast/mold alters mercury chemistry, but incorrect in saying that

probiotics are unwise to use with amalgams or metal detox.

I've done a LOT of research into these subjects, especially

probiotics and Saccharomyces Cerevisiae (bakers/brewers yeast).

Probiotics save lives (with or without amalgams). This is on the

record. I know many people who've improved tremendously because of

them, one being me before I had my amalgams removed.

S. Cerevisiae is not normally considered to be a probiotic**. It is

closely related to Candida albicans (gene-wise). Candida albicans

certainly isn't considered to be a probiotic. They both do have some

weird relationship with mercury.

Probiotics are very helpful with gut issues, are anti-pathogenic, and

have a part in the bile cycle. Probiotics succeed in gut healing when

many other things don't. IMO and research, it's perfectly helpful to

take probiotics with or without amalgams. One of the biggest

problems we have is that our natural intestinal bacterial environment

has been so greatly alterered through the use of antibiotics on all

levels (human intake, animal use and plant use).

**There are different strains of S. Cerevisiae, some wild, most GMO.

They're usually considered to be harmless, but can become pathogenic.

S.Cerevisiae can do a Y/M shift, which I think means it switches from

yeast to mold form.

I want to look into this further, tho'. It might explain something

I've been trying to figure out - which is the relationship of

S.Cerevisiae and mercury.

Thanks for posting this.

Judy

- In , " search4reasons "

<latimerkells@e...> wrote:

> In a recent DAMS Newsletter, I read an interview with Dr.

> Ray, the developer of NDF. He recommends that people not take

> therapeutic doses of " probiotics " at the beginning of heavy metal

> detox or while they have mercury amalgams still in place. He said

> his concern is that the probiotics will convert the mercury into

> methyl mercury. He cites 3 " of the many " scientific studies done

> with probiotics. " Transformations of Inorganic Mercury by Candida

> Albicans and Saccharomyces Cerevisiae " in Applied and Environmental

> Microbiology, " The Methylization of Mercuric Chloride by Human

> Intestinal Bacteria " in Experentia, and " Methylation of Mercury

from

> Dental Amalgam and Mercuric Chloride by Oral Streptococci In-Vitro "

> in J. Dental Research.

>

> Has anyone read this article? I'm not a scientist, and I don't

know

> what to make of this.

>

> Lati

[Guest guest]

Dr. Ray is not a credible source of information on anything other than

how to enrich Dr. Ray.

DAMS has new leadership and will hopefully stop being an organization

of mentally ill people pretending mercury is their problem and finding

lots of excuses to stay sick, and start being devoted to detoxing and

getting better.

Things like articles on why not to use probiotics are difficult to

characterize as anything other than attempts to justify staying sick

unneessarily.

Andy . . . . .. . . . . . .. . . . .

> Hi, Marti

>

> It was an article in the November 2002 issue of " Dental Truth, " a

publication of DAMS. The title was " Probiotics Can Methylate Your

Mercury, Dr. Ray Warns. " DAMS' number is 800-311-6265, and they seem

pretty helpful. Perhaps they wouldn't mind sending you a

complimentary copy.

>

> Interesting question. I'm new at this, so I have no idea if it

wouldn't be such a bad thing.

>

> Lati

> Re: [ ] PROBIOTICS METHYLIZE MERCURY?

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>

> I'm not a scientist either but if you DON'T have amalgams,

wouldn't it be a

> not so bad thing if inorganic mercury was converted to methyl

mercury as the

> body could more easily get rid of it?

>

> Do you have the links for the articles?

>

> Marti

>

>

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