Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 > was not until we recently took him to Dr. Melvin Kaplan for vision > training that he pointed out that our son has exotropia (eye turns > out slightly). My #4 had this problem. She would also get goopy green eye discharge. I first found that it was associated with eating certain foods. I am also chelating her, as well as my other 3 kids. During the early chelation rounds, her eye would really turn out, and get really goopy. Now it no longer turns or gets goopy. For her, definitely a metals problem. [she does not have food issues any more either.] Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Hi , Our youngest spectrum boy was just diagnosed as legally blind with a prescription strength of 20/800 and the puzzling thing to us is that he does so WELL with seeing both near and far objects. He can see airplanes from afar and can read alphabet letters which we have stuck on the refrigerator, both without glasses. But the " non-alignment " you mentioned seems evident to me, and I can't get my wife to take me seriously. She had poor vision for years until we had lasik surgery performed, and she went from a 20/400 correction to a 20/15 (!) but SHE couldn't see objects like elephants or airplanes without her glasses, even with her lesser disability, so I'm wondering if the " exotropia " can somehow be a factor in the prescription-determining process, and that our little boy will get the wrong prescription. The problem is......he's 2 and he won't be able to tell us if the glasses don't work! I'm chelating with the boys, and MY eyes seem to be getting worse with chelation. Our pediatric ophthalmologist seemed to very knowledgeable and listened carefully to my concerns about non alignment and wrong prescription, but said there was no misalignment and even if the prescription WAS off by a little, it would still be beneficial to our son because " the brain has to be taught how to interpret correctly focused objects " very early or the child will never see correctly. We're waiting for the prescription to be filled and wondering what to do next about (as usual) the problem I see, versus the problem that the doctors don't see. OC [ ] Left eye exotropia > > > > My son id three years old and when he was around 15 months we noticed > > that his eyes did not look aligned. His pediatric opthamologist > > always said it was just an illusion because his eyes were different > > shapes- I never really agreed with her but okay and we let it go. It > > was not until we recently took him to Dr. Melvin Kaplan for vision > > training that he pointed out that our son has exotropia (eye turns > > out slightly). We also recently watched a video of the 2001 ASA > > conference where Dr. Amy Holmes showed a picture of her so pre- > > chelation in which her son's eye turned inward and then she stated > > that after they chelated him his eyes went back to normal. Does > > anyone know about this- could it be a sign of mercury toxicity? > > > > > > ======================================================= > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 As I understand it, anything affecting the neurological system can throw the eyes off. We did seem some worsening of my son's divergent strambismus (which sounds like what you're calling exotropia) during periods of chelation. However, Dr. Megson's CLO protocol actually almost totally fixed my son's problem. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 Along with the left divergent strambismus, difficult converging his eyes and much difficulty tracking, my son used to have inconsistent blind spots. Since the strambismus was inconsistent as well, many docs and even a vision trainer did not pick it up at first. This may be true for your son. You need to take your son to a behavioral optometrist or someone well trained in spotting these things to rule it out. One group you might consider is the National Academy of Child Development www.nacd.org. They've had tremendous success in bringing sight to kids previously diagnosed as " blind " . Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 I do not know about this....but I always thought the same thing about my son's eye. We have been chelating him since January. I notied that in the last few months his eyes look more " even " . Sometimes the misalignment comes back, but then it goes away again... [ ] Left eye exotropia > My son id three years old and when he was around 15 months we noticed > that his eyes did not look aligned. His pediatric opthamologist > always said it was just an illusion because his eyes were different > shapes- I never really agreed with her but okay and we let it go. It > was not until we recently took him to Dr. Melvin Kaplan for vision > training that he pointed out that our son has exotropia (eye turns > out slightly). We also recently watched a video of the 2001 ASA > conference where Dr. Amy Holmes showed a picture of her so pre- > chelation in which her son's eye turned inward and then she stated > that after they chelated him his eyes went back to normal. Does > anyone know about this- could it be a sign of mercury toxicity? > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 My sons eyes did this too-- we had it captured on film-- pictures from when he was about 9 months on that showed one eye having " red eye " and one eye " not " . Vision therapy and lenses helped. I'm hoping it corrects as time/chelation goes on. W > My son id three years old and when he was around 15 months we noticed > that his eyes did not look aligned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 The Dr. Kaplan that I wrote about is a behavioral opthamologist whom has worked with hundreds of kids either with autism or learning disabilities- anyway he pointed out that it is commonly seen in autism(either exotropia- eye turns out or endotropia- eye turns in). So I am just trying to see if there is a connection with mercury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 In a message dated 8/31/03 7:43:24 PM Central Daylight Time, cfiordalisi@... writes: > I am not familiar with Dr. Megson's CLO protocol- is that the cod liver > oil? Yes. Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 I am not familiar with Dr. Megson's CLO protocol- is that the cod liver oil? My son has been taking cod liver oil since February. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 I appreciate your response. Do you think it matters if his eye turns out? That is my son's problem- his left eye turns outward and sometimes it looks worse than others. We are on our fifth round of chelation and two rounds ago it looked really bad however today it seems only slightly turned out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 My son's eye turns out intermittently... I don't think it matters if it is in or out. If you have a way to do vision therapy and can afford to do so, it may help this area. My son did well with therapy and he's quite the little reader now... tonight he was reading words like " senseless " and " backfired " . From those two words you might think he was reading about vaccines, but no, he was reading about Harry Potter! LOL! W > > I appreciate your response. Do you think it matters if his eye turns out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2003 Report Share Posted August 31, 2003 FWIW, my ds told us last year that he saw double. He said he had seen double since he was 2yo. At first, I didn't really believe him. He reads far above grade level and can obviously see. But he was very consistent with saying he saw double. Apparently, close up, he saw things double very far apart, and as the object backed up, it began to converge until at about 12 feet, he was only seeing single. I took him to an opthamologist and then an optometrist (who supposedly did vision therapy). Both told me that there was no way Tom saw double, he had 20/20 vision, and to just not discuss it with him anymore! This, of course, didn't correct the problem. Not discussing his double vision didn't make it go away :-). We took him to a neurodevelopmentalist in March. Within 5 min. of evaluating Tom, she said, " OK, his eyes don't converge and he is effectively shutting down his sight in his left eye so he can see. If we don't correct this, he'll make himself blind in that eye by shutting off it's vision. " *Finally* someone who recognized the problem! She gave us a home program for me to implement each day (it covers many things - very comprehensive, addressing all of Tom's issues). Anyway, we do eye " exercises " each day, Tom wears special pinhole glasses when he watches TV, and we do several other activities to fix Tom's vision. Guess what - within a couple of months, Tom was reporting that he no longer saw double. He can now cross the midline with ease. His eyes converge better than mine do :-). My point after this long post (that I meant to be short) is that these problems are real, but *many* eye " experts " don't recognize them (surprise surprise - sound familiar?!). They can also be fixed! HTH. Peace and grace, Sally, mom to Tom, 8yo dx AS but on the road to reocovery Ben, 6yo NT by the grace of God Gracie, 2yo NT and unvaccinated > Hi , > > Our youngest spectrum boy was just diagnosed as legally blind with a > prescription strength of 20/800 and the puzzling thing to us is that he does > so WELL with seeing both near and far objects. He can see airplanes from > afar and can read alphabet letters which we have stuck on the refrigerator, > both without glasses. > > But the " non-alignment " you mentioned seems evident to me, and I can't get > my wife to take me seriously. She had poor vision for years until we had > lasik surgery performed, and she went from a 20/400 correction to a 20/15 > (!) but SHE couldn't see objects like elephants or airplanes without her > glasses, even with her lesser disability, so I'm wondering if the > " exotropia " can somehow be a factor in the prescription-determining process, > and that our little boy will get the wrong prescription. > > The problem is......he's 2 and he won't be able to tell us if the glasses > don't work! > > I'm chelating with the boys, and MY eyes seem to be getting worse with > chelation. > > Our pediatric ophthalmologist seemed to very knowledgeable and listened > carefully to my concerns about non alignment and wrong prescription, but > said there was no misalignment and even if the prescription WAS off by a > little, it would still be beneficial to our son because " the brain has to be > taught how to interpret correctly focused objects " very early or the child > will never see correctly. > > We're waiting for the prescription to be filled and wondering what to do > next about (as usual) the problem I see, versus the problem that the doctors > don't see. > > OC > [ ] Left eye exotropia > > > > > > > My son id three years old and when he was around 15 months we noticed > > > that his eyes did not look aligned. His pediatric opthamologist > > > always said it was just an illusion because his eyes were different > > > shapes- I never really agreed with her but okay and we let it go. It > > > was not until we recently took him to Dr. Melvin Kaplan for vision > > > training that he pointed out that our son has exotropia (eye turns > > > out slightly). We also recently watched a video of the 2001 ASA > > > conference where Dr. Amy Holmes showed a picture of her so pre- > > > chelation in which her son's eye turned inward and then she stated > > > that after they chelated him his eyes went back to normal. Does > > > anyone know about this- could it be a sign of mercury toxicity? > > > > > > > > > ======================================================= > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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