Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 09:48:00 -0400, wrote: >As for Splenda, my understand was that although it's made from table >sugar, the process renders it undigestible, so it basically passes >through your system as inert, without generating any glucose. Is that >incorrect? That's true of the sucralose itself. But it is so sweet that it has to be diluted, " bulked up " for retail sale. Unfortunately they do this with sugars, though they don't call 'em that on the labeling. The packet product and the bulk cooking product are different. On the packet, the ingredients are: Dextrose (sugar), Maltodextrin (sugar) and sucralose. The bulk product is Maltodextrin (sugar) and sucralose. No Dextrose here. They don't have to disclose the percentages but they do have to list them in order of abundance. Thus most of the product is sugars of various types. All of these sugars (except sucralose, of course) are very rapidly digested into glucose. When Splenda is used as the sweetener in a commercial product, the manufacturer buys pure Splenda from McNeal. It does not contain bulking sugars. Thus Splenda-sweetened products are OK for us. According to the Bernstein book, McNeal won't sell Splenda in small quantities. On my round tuit list is to call and see what the minimum purchase quantity is and what form (powder, liquid, etc.) If the quantity isn't too large I might try to get up a group buy. I should note that all the other popular packaged sweeteners are made the same way. I've looked at Sweet'n'Low, the various Aspartames and (mmm can't recall the name of that other one, not Stevia) in the last couple of days. All list as the first ingredient either dextrose or maltodextrose. I've tested packet Splenda on myself. 10 grams (packets) in a glass of water causes the same BG spike as 10 grams of glucose tablets, only not as fast. I haven't had a chance to test the bulk packed product yet but judging by a BG spike when I made a cherry soda using unsweetened snowcone flavoring and Splenda, it will probably test out the same. Bernstein says that liquid and pill forms of Saccharin and Aspartame do not contain the bulking sugars. I haven't found any on the shelves around here to verify that yet. He says that Splenda isn't yet available in liquid or pill form. Too bad. Using a packet or two in a cup of coffee or glass of tea probably won't hurt many diabetics at one gram per packet. But cooking with the bulk packed product can. The only advantage Splenda has over sugar is its lower density. It's mostly air - a bag about the size of a 10 lb bag of sugar only weighs 9.7oz (275 grams). Since when baking one substitutes on a volume and not mass basis, the carb reduction is in the lower mass of product used and not any inherent lower carb content. Bernstein recommends DaVinci and N-Cal (Cadbury) Splenda sweetened syrups. Looking at DaVinci's website I see that they now list a simple Splenda sweetener syrup, http://www.davincigourmet.com/page.php?page=742 & & subcategory=213 Expensive but if it does the job.... A quick google search of " DaVinci Syrup " returns several online stores that are cheaper than retail. I've just ordered some to try. This outfit has a great 12 bottle case lot price of $57. http://kmb-enterprises.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY & Category_Code=dsrs\ f I don't like buying high priced water so I'm still interested in buying pure Splenda. --- De Armond See my website for my current email address http://www.johngsbbq.com Cleveland, Occupied TN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Yup, they were eating it and then found that human babies were " saved " in them. LOL... I believe I would be SICK! Honey is one of those " perfect " foods! I LOVE it... and I can get raw local honey for cheap in bulk round here. $2 a pound, and I can get as much or as little as I want. Angelia in OR ----- Original Message ----- From: " Aazari " > I'm thinking honey probably doesn't hit too hard because it's kind of oily > in nature. I would think it would have a much more dispersed effect > because > of that. There may also be some connection with the fact that it is the > only > food stuff they have ever found that is still edible after hundreds of > years > of sitting casked in Egyptian tombs. (And that's your weird fact for the > day.) LOL > > Aazari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 I was taught that honey is as bad for diabetics as any other refined sugar. Refined by people or refined by bees--no difference. There are advantages for the non-diabetic to honey over sugar, but for diabetics, no. Re: Re: Low carb products Honey is one of those " perfect " foods! I LOVE it... and I can get raw local honey for cheap in bulk round here. $2 a pound, and I can get as much or as little as I want. Angelia in OR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 And products advertised as 'low fat' typically have more carbs than the 'regular', for the same reason. Like everything else in life, it is a tradeoff; you have to decide what is right for you and your particular needs. Re: Re: Low carb products I completely agree with you about deceptive packaging. Also note that food advertised as " low carb " typically contain more fat, to make them tastier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Hi, Would you, please, tell what do you call " RAW HONEY'? Thank you, Ellen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 Raw honey is honey that has not been pasturized. It is filtered from the bee parts and wax but still contains so many of the good things for you. I find that it tastes better... It is also said that if one uses local raw honey, just a teaspoon a day, it will help with allergies of the local folk. I dont eat honey that often, but do use it in bread baking and my tea on occasion. I dont like the bland taste of sugar any more =) Angelia in OR ----- Original Message ----- From: " qaceea1 " > Hi, Would you, please, tell what do you call " RAW HONEY'? > Thank you, Ellen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 > It is also said that if one uses local raw honey, just a teaspoon a day, it > will help with allergies of the local folk. > Hot tea with lemon & honey always work great for my frequent sore throats I had as a kid. DREW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2005 Report Share Posted June 21, 2005 One of the best things to do with raw honey, is to put peeled cloves of garlic into a jar, cover it with raw honey, and put in the fridge for a month - the honey draws out the good things in the garlic, but does not have an overly strong taste. If you leave the garlic in the honey for a year, it crystalizes, and its delicious!! At 12:30 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote: > > It is also said that if one uses local raw honey, just a teaspoon a > day, it > > will help with allergies of the local folk. > > >Hot tea with lemon & honey always work great for my frequent sore throats I >had as a kid. > >DREW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2005 Report Share Posted June 22, 2005 mmmmmm.... that sounds good! My father in law puts honey on his garlic toast... eheheh I am going to have to try this! Angelia in OR Re: Re: Low carb products > One of the best things to do with raw honey, is to put peeled cloves of > garlic into a jar, cover it with raw honey, and put in the fridge for a > month - the honey draws out the good things in the garlic, but does not > have an overly strong taste. If you leave the garlic in the honey for a > year, it crystalizes, and its delicious!! > > > > > > At 12:30 PM 6/21/2005, you wrote: >> > It is also said that if one uses local raw honey, just a teaspoon a >> day, it >> > will help with allergies of the local folk. >> > >>Hot tea with lemon & honey always work great for my frequent sore throats >>I >>had as a kid. >> >>DREW > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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