Re: Female 12 Steppers Pewter Figurines

[Guest guest]

At 20:08 18/08/00 +0000, you wrote:

>I had a rather dark chuckle over this site.

>

>http://www.wayoflife.com/steppers/female.htm

>

>Notice how the figure's skirt gets a little longer with each step?

There is something terribly wrong with female figure no 2, " Believing " .

I think I may have to get one just to show where I've been...

Joe B.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 18/08/00 21:09:46 GMT Daylight Time, rfransway@...

writes:

<< www.wayoflife.com/steppers/female.htm

>>

These figurines are quite revolting !!!!!!!

[Guest guest]

(and on no 9, it appears that he makes amends by

> performing as an Elvis impersonator -- and why not?)

>

> .

No, Doug, he's relapsed and gone to the karaoke bar. I've been there.

[Guest guest]

(and on no 9, it appears that he makes amends by

> performing as an Elvis impersonator -- and why not?)

>

> .

No, Doug, he's relapsed and gone to the karaoke bar. I've been there.

[Guest guest]

Don't mock the poor guy -- you can see in step 10 that he is so desperate

that he is trying to have sex with a do-nut while scratching his chin in

bafflement at these weird compulsions of his disease. This do-nut sex bit

must be the secret they never told me. No wonder I could never get on

program.

.

has a weirdly deformed disc shaped penis, which he is -- apparently of a a

disc like

>From: watts_pete@...

>Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

>To: 12-step-freeegroups

>Subject: Re: Female 12 Steppers Pewter Figurines

>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 23:42:31 -0000

>

>Check out the male ones.

>

>http://www.wayoflife.com/steppers/male.htm

>

>A couple of them look like he's trying to pee in a cup and Step 9

>looks like he is staggering to stay on his feet. This is disgusting.

> This is presenting subliminal messages that youre still shitfaced

>until youve done all that religious stuff. I note also that

>apparently they themselves call themselves " steppers " .

>

>P.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Jim,

web-site plug time, but if you like satire at XA's expense, try

http://www.geocities.com/bouglaf/aa.html

-- the following two pages also contain 12step satire oriented stuff. I

don't think there's anything funny about atom bombs or XA, but humour is a

way of stating . . .

Best wishes,

.

>

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>To: <12-step-freeegroups>

>Subject: Re: Re: Female 12 Steppers Pewter Figurines

>Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 16:43:02 -0600

>

>I was laughing so hard at the satire I forgot to introduce myself. I'm Jim

>and I recently discovered the excellent resources on the web about recovery

>that reject the XA cult. Got some great links from this list and thought I

>would decloak. Thanks.

>Jim

>

>

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[Guest guest]

The most striking aspect of both sets of figurines is the agony, and by

default, the lack of joy.

Whatever happened to 'The joy is in the journey'?

It almost looks like the creator of these figurines is anti-12-step....I

couldn't have done a better job myself!

Ellen

[Guest guest]

> I had a rather dark chuckle over this site.

>

> http://www.wayoflife.com/steppers/female.htm

>

> Notice how the figure's skirt gets a little longer with each step?

Excuse me, but after seeing these I think I need to go stand in the

street and bark at the moon. Couldn't be any crazier that the

individual who dreamed up these tchotchkes.

Ohhhh, these are simply *ghastly*...gloriously so, in fact.

[Guest guest]

I wondered the same thing myself, meditating at a podium--what's up

with that? Maybe there's a special premium after a certain number of

years, like for 10 years you don't get a chip, you get a podium. A

porta-podium in case you take your show on the road.

judith

>

> Notice in both sets where you finally make it...meditating

> or preaching from a podium.

> Who the hell meditates at a podium anyway?

>

>

> >From: " Jim " <wn115@v...>

> >Reply-To: 12-step-freeegroups

> >To: <12-step-freeegroups>

> >Subject: Re: Re: Female 12 Steppers Pewter Figurines

> >Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2000 15:46:49 -0600

> >

> >You guys are killing me! :-) I went to the site (funny enough),

but

now

> >I've

> >bust a stitch. Stop!! ;-)

> >

> >You would think they worship " graven images " or something. Or are

these

> >just

> >Saints? (thats cool--

> >I'm Catlik:-)

> >

> >Jim da newbie

[Guest guest]

At 09:57 PM 8/18/00 GMT, sue styd wrote:

>

> Notice in both sets where you finally make it...meditating

> or preaching from a podium.

> Who the hell meditates at a podium anyway?

I remember a few speakers who would, the moment they stepped to the podium

to tell their story, say a prayer that god speak through them, 'let me be

your mouthpiece'. This was a 'standard' prayer, and there was a name for it

(probably named after the Catholic saint who wrote it), but I forget what it

is.

But in this case forgetting is a good thing - this useless and trivial

information has left my mind.

-----

http://listen.to/benbradley

[Guest guest]

what i find facinating is they illustrate perfectly that the goal of

aa isnt sobirety at all and is really about promoting AA. in both,

there is no cear point where person gets sober and is reason people

suppsoedly go into treatment to begin with.

if we are to assume they get sober early on in steps becuase that is

where metamorphsis in these figurines begins, then everything after

is

geared towards one end, making person a AA mouthpiece. no where do we

see how being sober benefits them in any other area of life except in

how effectivly they can promote bill wilson's program/cult

[Guest guest]

>

> Notice in both sets where you finally make it...meditating

> or preaching from a podium.

> Who the hell meditates at a podium anyway?

Hi sue

I think thats a pretty stroing hint that prayer - and public at that -

is what is intended. together with Step 10 it gives the strong hint

that Church is thought like a Bachelors degree, and AA is where you

get your PhD in spritituality.

With these figures thay have pulled off a rare double - to be

ridiculous and offensive at the same time.

Pete

[Guest guest]

Yeah! It's true.....if you talk the talk, you are a guru....

People will come from miles around to hear you pontifcate the

steps......I have heard many.

But get them aside and listen to their lives...listen to how they are

living them in the here and now....and gasp!!!

If they are " walking " the talk, it does't get much better. They are

still " working " it. Why the hell don't they just quit the B.S.

You do or you don't If you're a thief, why is workin' the steps worth

it if you only stole once today instead` of your usual three or four

times....cause your`HPis workin in your `lifeand there is an

improvement (6th step0

Yikes!!

[Guest guest]

,

LOL. This should be subtitled:

" And now for something completely different "

Jim ;-)

Re: Re: Female 12 Steppers

Pewter Figurines

> Dear Jim,

>

> web-site plug time, but if you like satire at XA's expense, try

> http://www.geocities.com/bouglaf/aa.html

> -- the following two pages also contain 12step satire oriented stuff. I

> don't think there's anything funny about atom bombs or XA, but humour is a

> way of stating . . .

> Best wishes,

>

> .

[Guest guest]

----- Original Message -----

> Notice in both sets where you finally make it...meditating

> or preaching from a podium.

> Who the hell meditates at a podium anyway?

Adolph Hitler ;-)

Seriously... He almost conquered the world by exploiting the talents of the

many gifted Germans of that era in the fields of Science, Commerce, and

military science, yet he himself was shockingly untalented--with one

exception: public speaking.

He would often start by meditating at the podium then staring out at the

crowd speachless for a minute or two. People would say it was if his intense

gaze was directed at them personaly....

Jim

>

> >

> >You would think they worship " graven images " or something. Or are these

> >just

> >Saints? (thats cool--

> >I'm Catlik:-)

> >

> >Jim da newbie

[Guest guest]

HI

I was in OA too. I'm off to purchase more puter timne and then I'll

make a lengthier reply!

P.

> Hi P,

>

> It seems that everyone here has had their 12 Step experience with

AA/NA. My

> experience comes from OA and the groups in my area CRAM the AA 12 &

12 and

> the Big Book down your throat.

>

> OA is for compulsive overeating. From my experiences I've seen

> bulimic/anorexics very UNWELCOMED. In the area where I live there

isn't

> anybody " barfing down a toilet " . Not every one is fat either.

>

> Part of my experience is that I was 285 pounds 2 years ago. I lost

140

> pounds while in OA and was told that just because I was thin didn't

mean

> that I still wasn't sick or have character defects. In fact I'm

still

> trying to figure out what MY part is in a resentment I have towards

a

> neurosurgeon who verbally diagnosed my daughter with one thing but

the

> written medical records were completely opposite.

>

> Anyway, I just wanted to clarify where I am coming from and give a

little of

> my experience so you would understand a little better.

>

> The bottom line is that AA's 12 Steps have me believing I will

never

be a

> worthwhile human being unless I am a puppet of God and I don't even

know

> what God is/supposed to be.

>

> I've struggled with my addiction (which is with food) as I have

been

trying

> to " divorce " the group. I just want to live freely, speak freely,

think

> freely -- things I don' know how to do anymore.

>

>

> Re: Female 12 Steppers Pewter Figurines

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> > Hi All

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> > I wonder what OA figurines would look like? " Powerlessness " with

a

> > woman barfing down a toilet, and her getting slimmer as she does

each

> > step? Now that really makes me want to barf!

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> > P.

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[Guest guest]

Re: Female 12 Steppers Pewter Figurines

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> > Hi All

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> > I wonder what OA figurines would look like? " Powerlessness " with a

> > woman barfing down a toilet, and her getting slimmer as she does each

> > step? Now that really makes me want to barf!

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> > P.

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[Guest guest]

At Step 9 the male figurine rolls his shirt sleeves down.

> > I had a rather dark chuckle over this site.

> >

> > http://www.wayoflife.com/steppers/female.htm

> >

> > Notice how the figure's skirt gets a little longer with each step?

> >

> > There's male 12 stepper

> > pewter figurines too--don't mean to be sexist here, guys.

> >

> > http://www.wayoflife.com/steppers/male.htm

> >

> >