Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 > Do vaccines currently meaning in year 2003 still have > Thimoseral in them or NO? Based on the stated ingredients, some do and some do not. > Please tell if any of you knwo, in case we have plans > on having other kids, we should be aware.Are they > anywher close ion banning them or No? I personally see no evidence that thimerosal is going to be banned any time real soon. The media continues to have a field day with publicizing studies in such a way to downplay any possible harm as " paranoia " and overstate any possible conclusion that there is " no link " between injections of mercury and damage. There has never been any sort of BAN on the use of thimerosal in vaccines. APPARENTLY the manufacturers were ASKED to stop using it in certain vaccines. But it is not " illegal " or in violation of any code. good wishes, Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 vohra chitra wrote: >Do vaccines currently meaning in year 2003 still have >Thimoseral in them or NO? >Please tell if any of you knwo, in case we have plans >on having other kids, we should be aware.Are they >anywher close ion banning them or No? >Thanks > This info applies to US only -- Most doses of the influenza vaccine have thimerosal. One manufacturer, in only single dose vials, has thimerosal-free. The single dose vials are more expensive, so most doctors don't order them. The diphtheria-tetanus and tetanus toxoid vaccines for children over 6 and for adults have thimerosal. Some of the specialized vaccines like for rabies have thimerosal. Some of the regularly scheduled infant vaccines (eg, DTaP) have a " trace " of mercury, 3 mcg or less. The Hepatitis B vaccine for adults still has thimerosal. The key is to read the product insert. The manufacturers say that the product inserts for some of the routine infant vaccines still show they contain thimerosal because the inserts haven't been updated. Another possibility is that the mfrs export some of these vaccines and they want to be covered for the exported versions. It is difficult for a mfr to sell a formulation in a developing country that has not been approved or accepted in their home country. The mfrs feel like they need thimerosal for developing country exports because developing countries can't afford the more costly single dose vials. Thus the mfrs and health officials are so concerned that developed countries don't declare thimerosal a harmful substance. I'm only repeating their rationale. I certainly don't agree with it. As Jeff Bradstreet has observed from his work in Indonesia, it is the developing world children who stand to be most harmed by thimerosal, due to their higher rate of poor nutritional status, the greater likelihood that they will receive all their vaccines at once, and the pervasive environmental toxins that surround them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Does anyone know if it is possible to take an actual vaccine vial, and have the contents tested to see if it contains mercury? I would think that with all the " autism docs " who have access to ordering vaccines, that this would be do-able. W > > There have been reports that the product sheets accompanying the vaccines > have erroneously omitted thimerosal, even though thimerosal is actually in > the dose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 all flu shots have thermosil in it Re: [ ] Do vaccines still have Thimoseral Or No vohra chitra wrote: >Do vaccines currently meaning in year 2003 still have >Thimoseral in them or NO? >Please tell if any of you knwo, in case we have plans >on having other kids, we should be aware.Are they >anywher close ion banning them or No? >Thanks > This info applies to US only -- Most doses of the influenza vaccine have thimerosal. One manufacturer, in only single dose vials, has thimerosal-free. The single dose vials are more expensive, so most doctors don't order them. The diphtheria-tetanus and tetanus toxoid vaccines for children over 6 and for adults have thimerosal. Some of the specialized vaccines like for rabies have thimerosal. Some of the regularly scheduled infant vaccines (eg, DTaP) have a " trace " of mercury, 3 mcg or less. The Hepatitis B vaccine for adults still has thimerosal. The key is to read the product insert. The manufacturers say that the product inserts for some of the routine infant vaccines still show they contain thimerosal because the inserts haven't been updated. Another possibility is that the mfrs export some of these vaccines and they want to be covered for the exported versions. It is difficult for a mfr to sell a formulation in a developing country that has not been approved or accepted in their home country. The mfrs feel like they need thimerosal for developing country exports because developing countries can't afford the more costly single dose vials. Thus the mfrs and health officials are so concerned that developed countries don't declare thimerosal a harmful substance. I'm only repeating their rationale. I certainly don't agree with it. As Jeff Bradstreet has observed from his work in Indonesia, it is the developing world children who stand to be most harmed by thimerosal, due to their higher rate of poor nutritional status, the greater likelihood that they will receive all their vaccines at once, and the pervasive environmental toxins that surround them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 That's probably a good assumption but not quite true. The only flu shots that are proported to have thimerosal in them are the FluMist intranasal spray vax. However, there is no guarantee that something is thimerosal free as some lots sit on the shelf and some vax are manufactured with thimerosal and then stripped of it prior to formulation. Re: [ ] Do vaccines still have Thimoseral Or No all flu shots have thermosil in it Re: [ ] Do vaccines still have Thimoseral Or No vohra chitra wrote: >Do vaccines currently meaning in year 2003 still have >Thimoseral in them or NO? >Please tell if any of you knwo, in case we have plans >on having other kids, we should be aware.Are they >anywher close ion banning them or No? >Thanks > This info applies to US only -- Most doses of the influenza vaccine have thimerosal. One manufacturer, in only single dose vials, has thimerosal-free. The single dose vials are more expensive, so most doctors don't order them. The diphtheria-tetanus and tetanus toxoid vaccines for children over 6 and for adults have thimerosal. Some of the specialized vaccines like for rabies have thimerosal. Some of the regularly scheduled infant vaccines (eg, DTaP) have a " trace " of mercury, 3 mcg or less. The Hepatitis B vaccine for adults still has thimerosal. The key is to read the product insert. The manufacturers say that the product inserts for some of the routine infant vaccines still show they contain thimerosal because the inserts haven't been updated. Another possibility is that the mfrs export some of these vaccines and they want to be covered for the exported versions. It is difficult for a mfr to sell a formulation in a developing country that has not been approved or accepted in their home country. The mfrs feel like they need thimerosal for developing country exports because developing countries can't afford the more costly single dose vials. Thus the mfrs and health officials are so concerned that developed countries don't declare thimerosal a harmful substance. I'm only repeating their rationale. I certainly don't agree with it. As Jeff Bradstreet has observed from his work in Indonesia, it is the developing world children who stand to be most harmed by thimerosal, due to their higher rate of poor nutritional status, the greater likelihood that they will receive all their vaccines at once, and the pervasive environmental toxins that surround them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 we have been looking at all of them, calling companies and evaluating them on another board and not ONE was found to be with out. even one that was being advertised as thermosil free when you read the fine print on the paper inside STILL have it listed in the ingredients and the manufacture won't guarantee it to be free of it Re: [ ] Do vaccines still have Thimoseral Or No vohra chitra wrote: >Do vaccines currently meaning in year 2003 still have >Thimoseral in them or NO? >Please tell if any of you knwo, in case we have plans >on having other kids, we should be aware.Are they >anywher close ion banning them or No? >Thanks > This info applies to US only -- Most doses of the influenza vaccine have thimerosal. One manufacturer, in only single dose vials, has thimerosal-free. The single dose vials are more expensive, so most doctors don't order them. The diphtheria-tetanus and tetanus toxoid vaccines for children over 6 and for adults have thimerosal. Some of the specialized vaccines like for rabies have thimerosal. Some of the regularly scheduled infant vaccines (eg, DTaP) have a " trace " of mercury, 3 mcg or less. The Hepatitis B vaccine for adults still has thimerosal. The key is to read the product insert. The manufacturers say that the product inserts for some of the routine infant vaccines still show they contain thimerosal because the inserts haven't been updated. Another possibility is that the mfrs export some of these vaccines and they want to be covered for the exported versions. It is difficult for a mfr to sell a formulation in a developing country that has not been approved or accepted in their home country. The mfrs feel like they need thimerosal for developing country exports because developing countries can't afford the more costly single dose vials. Thus the mfrs and health officials are so concerned that developed countries don't declare thimerosal a harmful substance. I'm only repeating their rationale. I certainly don't agree with it. As Jeff Bradstreet has observed from his work in Indonesia, it is the developing world children who stand to be most harmed by thimerosal, due to their higher rate of poor nutritional status, the greater likelihood that they will receive all their vaccines at once, and the pervasive environmental toxins that surround them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Actually, All flu shots contain 25 mcgs....Flumist has it in the " trace amount " ...whatever that may mean. See vaccine schedule: http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm#2 " Hooker, S " <brian.hooker@...> wrote: That's probably a good assumption but not quite true. The only flu shots that are proported to have thimerosal in them are the FluMist intranasal spray vax. However, there is no guarantee that something is thimerosal free as some lots sit on the shelf and some vax are manufactured with thimerosal and then stripped of it prior to formulation. Re: [ ] Do vaccines still have Thimoseral Or No all flu shots have thermosil in it Re: [ ] Do vaccines still have Thimoseral Or No vohra chitra wrote: >Do vaccines currently meaning in year 2003 still have >Thimoseral in them or NO? >Please tell if any of you knwo, in case we have plans >on having other kids, we should be aware.Are they >anywher close ion banning them or No? >Thanks > This info applies to US only -- Most doses of the influenza vaccine have thimerosal. One manufacturer, in only single dose vials, has thimerosal-free. The single dose vials are more expensive, so most doctors don't order them. The diphtheria-tetanus and tetanus toxoid vaccines for children over 6 and for adults have thimerosal. Some of the specialized vaccines like for rabies have thimerosal. Some of the regularly scheduled infant vaccines (eg, DTaP) have a " trace " of mercury, 3 mcg or less. The Hepatitis B vaccine for adults still has thimerosal. The key is to read the product insert. The manufacturers say that the product inserts for some of the routine infant vaccines still show they contain thimerosal because the inserts haven't been updated. Another possibility is that the mfrs export some of these vaccines and they want to be covered for the exported versions. It is difficult for a mfr to sell a formulation in a developing country that has not been approved or accepted in their home country. The mfrs feel like they need thimerosal for developing country exports because developing countries can't afford the more costly single dose vials. Thus the mfrs and health officials are so concerned that developed countries don't declare thimerosal a harmful substance. I'm only repeating their rationale. I certainly don't agree with it. As Jeff Bradstreet has observed from his work in Indonesia, it is the developing world children who stand to be most harmed by thimerosal, due to their higher rate of poor nutritional status, the greater likelihood that they will receive all their vaccines at once, and the pervasive environmental toxins that surround them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 3, 2003 Report Share Posted November 3, 2003 Fluzone by Aventis in SOME single dose vials does not contain thimerosal, unless an unreported trace. You need to read the label to make sure it has less than 0.5 mcg. Flumist also does not contain thimerosal but it is not an injection and has lots of other problems. I guess anything could have anything in it and the only way to know for sure is to test it yourself, if you don't want to take the mfr's word for it. teresa wrote: >Actually, All flu shots contain 25 mcgs....Flumist has it in the " trace amount " ...whatever that may mean. >See vaccine schedule: > >http://www.vaccinesafety.edu/thi-table.htm#2 > > > " Hooker, S " <brian.hooker@...> wrote: >That's probably a good assumption but not quite true. The only flu >shots that are proported to have thimerosal in them are the FluMist >intranasal spray vax. However, there is no guarantee that something is >thimerosal free as some lots sit on the shelf and some vax are >manufactured with thimerosal and then stripped of it prior to >formulation. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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