The tens unit to Debs in NZ

[Guest guest]

Hi Debs,

I would be very interested in hearing more about your success

with the Antox regime and specifically the tens unit. I started the

Antox therapy at the beginning of November and had over four

totally pain free weeks. My 5th ct-scan in December unexplicably

set off an acute attack, yet within 4 days of the attack I was

completely off the pain meds again. I remain so, so I am

thoroughly convinced that the antoxidant therapy has been

beneficial for me. I have tried to get others from this group to try

it, to see if it was possible to see some more success in

numbers, yet have not heard anymore from anyone about it.

I am thoroughly convinced that it makes a tremendous difference

in diminishing pain under extreme situations and eliminating

daily pain, so please tell us more. How long have you been on

the Antox and how soon did you notice that it was working?

Is the tens unit some kind of device that measures our levels of

oxidative stress, perhaps? I'm just guessing here, as it is said

that oxidative stress plays a big role, according to Dr.

Hayden (one of our chat room guests)......applause, applause,

to Mark Armstrong for bringing this guest to speak.

I would be very interested to learn more if you have the time to

share it. Meanwhile, congratulations on finding a therapy which

has brought you relief and enabled you to be out again in the

working world with health and pain-free days.

With hope and prayers,

Heidi in SC

In pancreatitis@y..., " debzdebznz " <colind@x> wrote:

> Hi Karyn

> I am in New Zealand and have been a memeber for long time.

> Debs is my name maybe I can be of assistance here .

> I have had just about every test ans surgery short of pancreas

> removal and no clear diagnosis .

>

> I was sleeping 18 hours a day and then i doscovered antox

and a tens

> unit . I was able to go back to work and live a life I didnt have eg

> no life

> Antioxidants have worked for me I am now back in a sales

position

> here.

> heheh when people ask me what my tens unit is I dont feel liek

> explainign so I say its my GPS unit or stress detector

> I still get pain but take MSt daily and a whole host of othe rstuff.

> I guess the point being I was bed ridden before antox and now

am not

> quite the contrary i can function well

>

>

> debs from nz

[Guest guest]

> Hi Debs,

>

> I would be very interested in hearing more about your success

> with the Antox regime and specifically the tens unit. I started the

> Antox therapy at the beginning of November and had over four

> totally pain free weeks.

> I am thoroughly convinced that the antoxidant therapy has been

> beneficial for me. I have tried to get others from this group to

try it, to see if it was possible to see some more success in

> numbers, yet have not heard anymore from anyone about it.

> Is the tens unit some kind of device that measures our levels of

> oxidative stress, perhaps?

> With hope and prayers,

> Heidi in SC

>Could someone explain about Antox? Is this a regiman of antioxidants?

If so, which ones & in what amounts?

I tried a TENS unit years ago but it didn't help. I don't think the

people setting up the unit knew much about its use in pancreatitis;

the most common usage is for back pain. A TENS unit (Transcutaneous

Electrical Stimulation unit) provides mild electric shock. It uses the

gateway theory of pain control, that the mild shock distracts the

brain from fully recognizing the pancreatic pain. Deb from NZ, where

have you had the electrodes placed on your body & at what settings?

If you have success with a TENS unit, I'd sure like to try it again.

Thanks in advance for your help .......

jang

[Guest guest]

what is antox exactly?

--- debzdebznz wrote:

> Hi Heidi

> Thanks for your response

> I was basically bedridden for 18 hours a day couldnt

> work.

> As they had given up on me here well I thought Antox

> was wortha a

> shot and I insisted on the Tens unit

>

> within 3 days i was ab;e to reduce my MSt by 70

> percent...pretty

> conclusive for me. I wasnt sleeping so long have

> gone down to 8 hours

> and now can work.

> I started them June 4th. I also use the tens unit

> daily for over 12

> hours a day its a USA one EMPL a good one with 4

> large pads they are

> better then small ones.

> I can work 12 hours a day drive 1 hour to work and 1

> hour back work

> in sales and do most things now.

> I have remianed on 30 MG of MST which for me is

> great . My doc is so

> thrilled he wants to leave it there and I have while

> I started my new

> job. Luck would have it my old company offered me my

> job back

> I find being so busy is good it keeps my mind off

> the pain. I was so

> depressed before these as I had nothign to talk

> about only illness

> which noone wants to hear

> So I have been back at work 6 months no more

> hospital visits I still

> get pain but I am alive well and workign doing what

> I love

> My last option was pancreatic resection and well

> with my luck best

> not to go there .......unless I lose it all again

> which I will not.

> My positive attitude also helped I said I am better

> and that helps

> trick the body as well especially the morphine with

> the brain

> MY Pain doctor is floored he was amazed after seeing

> me on TPN and

> feeding tubes and pain pumps . Unbeleivable

> I would liek to be pain free but I knwo whilst I

> eat thats not

> possible.

> I will at soem point have more tests etc but dont

> want to mess withit

> right now.

> I never had a poistive test anything but they work

> on CP

> The tens unit is an electrical pulse unit and it

> works You need to

> use it for a few weeks but I cant live without it.

> It sis best with reduced meds or none as it works

> that way best.

> Without it I couldnt cope

>

> hope this helps

>

> debs

>

> ps I dont know where spell check is I type so fast

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > > Hi Karyn

> > > I am in New Zealand and have been a memeber for

> long time.

> > > Debs is my name maybe I can be of assistance

> here .

> > > I have had just about every test ans surgery

> short of pancreas

> > > removal and no clear diagnosis .

> > >

> > > I was sleeping 18 hours a day and then i

> doscovered antox

> > and a tens

> > > unit . I was able to go back to work and live a

> life I didnt have

> eg

> > > no life

> > > Antioxidants have worked for me I am now back in

> a sales

> > position

> > > here.

> > > heheh when people ask me what my tens unit is I

> dont feel liek

> > > explainign so I say its my GPS unit or stress

> detector

> > > I still get pain but take MSt daily and a whole

> host of othe

> rstuff.

> > > I guess the point being I was bed ridden before

> antox and now

> > am not

> > > quite the contrary i can function well

> > >

> > >

> > > debs from nz

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I tried it 2 years back but wasnt shown how to use it it was hopeless

now its great

i have them on my back on left side of spine by bra horizontal bit

and below in a a square

works well

In pancreatitis@y..., " jang33071 " <jang33071@y...> wrote:

>

> > Hi Debs,

> >

> > I would be very interested in hearing more about your success

> > with the Antox regime and specifically the tens unit. I started

the

> > Antox therapy at the beginning of November and had over four

> > totally pain free weeks.

> > I am thoroughly convinced that the antoxidant therapy has been

> > beneficial for me. I have tried to get others from this group to

> try it, to see if it was possible to see some more success in

> > numbers, yet have not heard anymore from anyone about it.

>

> > Is the tens unit some kind of device that measures our levels of

> > oxidative stress, perhaps?

>

> > With hope and prayers,

> > Heidi in SC

> >Could someone explain about Antox? Is this a regiman of

antioxidants?

> If so, which ones & in what amounts?

>

> I tried a TENS unit years ago but it didn't help. I don't think the

> people setting up the unit knew much about its use in pancreatitis;

> the most common usage is for back pain. A TENS unit (Transcutaneous

> Electrical Stimulation unit) provides mild electric shock. It uses

the

> gateway theory of pain control, that the mild shock distracts the

> brain from fully recognizing the pancreatic pain. Deb from NZ,

where

> have you had the electrodes placed on your body & at what settings?

> If you have success with a TENS unit, I'd sure like to try it again.

>

> Thanks in advance for your help .......

> jang