Re: Parents of Adults HELP

[Guest guest]

Do they notice any of these changes happening at a specific time of the day?

We have a son with ADHD who becomes violent and angry when his blood sugar

drops. In fact, since starting him on a chromium supplement his mood swings

have now stabilized, he is far less moody, cooperates with us, his attention

is improving every day, and he sleeps better at night. We also have a son

with Aspergers who exhibits some of the same behavior when his blood sugar

drops, but not to the same extent. Have they had any glucose tolerance

testing done? Even if they have, sugar could still be the source of the

problem. Our son had a 5 hour fasting glucose test and the results were

normal, yet he started becoming angry and aggressive during the last hour of

the test.

Hope this helps!

[ ] Parents of Adults HELP

> I'm curious to know how many parents of adult autistic children are on the

list? I have a friend who really needs help.

>

> My friend has a son Danny who is 21. He is autistic and bi-polar, and he

lives in a group home/school during the week. This past weekend he attacked

her several times while she was driving the car. He scratched her hands,

and put his hands around her neck and began to choke her. Sometimes he is

sorry afterward, but he continues to do it. He is also refusing to bathe,

brush his teeth, wear clean clothes, etc. His behavior shifts quite

suddenly from happy and pleasant to talking about hurting people and wishing

everyone was dead so he could live in their houses.

>

> I think that just about every bi-polar medication has been tried, but with

not much luck. I suggested that maybe Danny has clostridia or other

bacterial infection - what do you think? Should she try a probiotic? I

believe Danny gets a multi-vitamin, but I don't know what brand. Is there

something that you can suggest? Do you think Empower Plus would help? The

group home is only willing to accommodate a simple pill regimen,

unfortunately. It isn't possible for Danny to live at home, because his

mom lives alone. And especially now that Danny is physically violent with

her, she is afraid of him. Danny was on a glutenfree diet when he was very

young and it did help him. The group home was not willing to continue the

diet, so he's been off the diet for many years.

>

> Please share any thoughts you have that might help. Should she consider

chelating at this point? Or would it take a long time to see any positive

improvement in the violent behavior?

>

> Pam, mom to Christian, PDD-NOS, 3.6yo

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Pam,

What's his diet like? Some group homes tend to reward with soft drinks and junk

food. Does he have gluten/casein issues or food allergies? Does he hyperacute

sense of smell or hearing? If she had the radio or heat on in the car if may

overwhelm him or if he smells any scents she may have used (including detergent,

etc) or from the car itself. Has she seen this behavior from him in the past?

How long has he been at the school/group home? Is he verbal? Has something

unpleasant been happening at school/group home that he's trying to communicate

to her? His comment about wanting everyone to die so he can live in the house

seems like a red flag to me. Seems he has gotten the message that he can't live

there if they're living there and seems he doesn't want to live where he's

living during the week. New staff, different roommate? If any abuse physical

or otherwise the perpetrator often tells the victim they mustn't tell anyone or

something bad will happen. Sometimes the victim is ok answering yes or no

questions with a nod or head shake because that's technically not " telling " . I

have no idea if this is what's going on with him just a thought. I have worked

in group homes and realize some have excellent records and others have major

problems. Depending upon his ability to process, if something has happened he

may blame the parents or believe it's their fault or " ok " with them because they

placed him there.

S

>

I'm curious to know how many parents of adult autistic children are on the

list?  I have a friend who really needs help.<BR>

<BR>

My friend has a son Danny who is 21.  He is autistic and bi-polar, and he lives

in a group home/school during the week.  This past weekend he attacked her

several times while she was driving the car.  He scratched her hands, and put

his hands around her neck and began to choke her.  Sometimes he is sorry

afterward, but he continues to do it.  He is also refusing to bathe, brush his

teeth, wear clean clothes, etc.  His behavior shifts quite suddenly from happy

and pleasant to talking about hurting people and wishing everyone was dead so he

could live in their houses.<BR>

<BR>

I think that just about every bi-polar medication has been tried, but with not

much luck.  I suggested that maybe Danny has clostridia or other bacterial

infection - what do you think?  Should she try a probiotic?  I believe Danny

gets a multi-vitamin, but I don't know what brand.  Is there something that you

can suggest?  Do you think Empower Plus would help?  The group home is only

willing to accommodate a simple pill regimen, unfortunately.   It isn't possible

for Danny to live at home, because his mom lives alone.  And especially now that

Danny is physically violent with her, she is afraid of him.  Danny was on a

glutenfree diet when he was very young and it did help him.  The group home was

not willing to continue the diet, so he's been off the diet for many years.<BR>

<BR>

Please share any thoughts you have that might help.  Should she consider

chelating at this point?  Or would it take a long time to see any positive

improvement in the violent behavior?<BR>

<BR>

Pam, mom to Christian, PDD-NOS, 3.6yo<BR>

<BR>

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[Guest guest]

Hello Pam,

> I'm curious to know how many parents of adult autistic children are

on the list? I have a friend who really needs help.

I am not the parent of an adult autistic child, and I'm very

sorry that I do not know what to suggest in terms of supplements

or drugs.

> I think that just about every bi-polar medication has been tried,

but with not much luck. I suggested that maybe Danny has clostridia

or other bacterial infection - what do you think? Should she try a

probiotic? I believe Danny gets a multi-vitamin, but I don't know

what brand. Is there something that you can suggest? Do you think

Empower Plus would help? The group home is only willing to

accommodate a simple pill regimen, unfortunately.

Probiotics are generally a good thing to take, for anyone.

I would suggest that she start any new pills on the weekend

so that she can gauge any effect--- there is always SOMEONE

who has a negative reaction to anything. Probiotics can

cause " yeast die off " (which is good in that it is caused

by the yeast dying). This can be unpleasant. Activated

charcoal helps. People who don't have a yeast problem

won't get die off.

You can also look into the use of digestive enzymes--

they are very helpful for many. (There is a book about

the use of enzymes for autism, you can find the title

etc here:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/Books_about_autism.html )

Since the gluten free diet helped, I would suspect that

enzymes may also help.

> It isn't possible for Danny to live at home, because his mom lives

alone. And especially now that Danny is physically violent with her,

she is afraid of him. Danny was on a glutenfree diet when he was very

young and it did help him. The group home was not willing to continue

the diet, so he's been off the diet for many years.

>

> Please share any thoughts you have that might help. Should she

consider chelating at this point? Or would it take a long time to see

any positive improvement in the violent behavior?

I would suggest that she could get a hair test done to see what

metals may be a problem:

http://home.earthlink.net/~moriam/HOW_TO_hair_test.html

Before chelating, he would need to get any amalgam/silver

dental fillings replaced (if he has any). This is unfortunately

not the simpleist thing to consider. I would certainly suggest

chelation if he has heavy metal poisoning. It can be

extremely helpful, although it is a slow process, requiring

persistence.

good wishes,

Moria