Re: DDI Hair test of a little french girl - Comments please !

[Guest guest]

> - Are mercury and aluminium and lead important levels if they are in

> the yellow ?

I am not Mr. Cutler, but in my opinion, yes.

> - If we don't meet counting rules of mercury poisoning, according to

> them, we have to take into account the abnormal results of some

> elements. So, should we try to do something against the copper red

> level, and if yes, as we leave in France, is there some available

> protocol for copper toxicity ?

Give zinc.

> - A little last question : Has the sulfur level in the test

> something to deal with that " PST " problem that some autist children ?

Many times yes, altho not always. You can read my phenol [PST] page here, for

more info

http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

> aluminum 16 < 8.0 yellow

> arsenic 0.11 < .08 yellow

> lead 2.5 < 1.0 yellow

> mercury 1.3 < 0.40 yellow

> silver .24 < .2 yellow

Consider removing sources of current exposure

http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

> Copper 41 8.0-16 red over 50%

> Zinc 140 100-190 green over 50%

Add zinc, start with low dose and work up.

> Selenium 0.58 0.95-1.7 yellow under 50%

Adding selenium was very beneficial for my son.

Dana

[Guest guest]

I'm not Andy, but I think I can answer some of your questions. We have been

chelating now for over three years.

Remember, the hair test is to help determine mercury toxicity. The level of

the essential elements are disordered BECAUSE the mercury makes them that

way. They are NOT a true reflection of what is in the body. So, if your

daughter meets the counting rules, then her hair test reflects mercury

toxicity. If the mercury is removed, and she is supplemented well, over

time the disordered mineral levels will become normal.

So if she meets the counting rules, that's your answer. Don't worry about

trying to fix the disordered minerals. That will happen through chelation.

You also want to look at other things, such as her symptoms etc. and how

much mercury you know she was exposed to.

Please do not give her ALA once a day! For mercury-poisoned people that is

not a good thing! You are, in effect, chelating her but unsafely. If you

want to do ALA alone, you need to do three things--have an appropriate low

dose on (usually) a three-day cycle with either 4 or 11 days in-between so

her body can rest up, give her lots of water during those three days and

supplements to build up her body and protect her brain from the moving

mercury, and give the ALA every 3 hours during the day, 4 at night during

that time. Otherwise you run the risk of the mercury being moved from one

part of the brain to another or to another part of the body. Not good!

Read the files on this list for futher help.

Hope this is of some use to you.

Au revoir,

Barb

[ ] DDI Hair test of a little french girl - Comments

please !

> Hello USA and Dear Mr CUTLER, may you help me to understand these

> hair test results for my 4.5 daughter ?

>

> If my comprehension of the rules is OK, the results don't match the

> counting rules for mineral transport impairement. But :

>

> - Are mercury and aluminium and lead important levels if they are in

> the yellow ?

>

> - If we don't meet counting rules of mercury poisoning, according to

> them, we have to take into account the abnormal results of some

> elements. So, should we try to do something against the copper red

> level, and if yes, as we leave in France, is there some available

> protocol for copper toxicity ?

>

> - Is the very low lithium level important and should we give some to

> our little girl who is usually more " hypo " than " hyper " as far

> sensory problems are concerned.

>

> - A little last question : Has the sulfur level in the test

> something to deal with that " PST " problem that some autist children ?

>

> Hair test results :

>

>

> Test date : 11/23/03

>

> Important : My daughter had ALA once a day from january to april

> 2003.

>

> Here are the results

>

> Thank you to everyone answering.

>

> POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color

> ==============================================

> aluminum 16 < 8.0 yellow

> antimony 0.05 < .066 green

> arsenic 0.11 < .08 yellow

> beryllium <0.01 < 0.02 no line

> bismuth .087 < .13 green

> cadmium .062 < .15 green

> lead 2.5 < 1.0 yellow

> mercury 1.3 < 0.40 yellow

> platinum .003 < .005 no line

> thallium < .001 < .01 no line

> thorium < .001 < .005 no line

> uranium .0016 < .06 green

> nickel .39 < .4 green

> silver .24 < .2 yellow

> tin .26 < .3 green

> titanium 0.73 < 1.0 green

>

> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color under/over 50%

> ============================================================

> Calcium 890 125-370 red over 50%

> Magnesium 18 12-30 white over 50%

> Sodium 17 12-90 green under 50%

> Potassium 11 12-40 yellow under 50%

> Copper 41 8.0-16 red over 50%

> Zinc 140 100-190 green over 50%

> Manganese 0.16 0.2-0.55 yellow under 50%

> Chromium 0.47 0.26-0.5 green over 50%

> Vanadium 0.056 0.03-0.1 white over 50%

> Molybdenum 0.064 0.05-0.13 green under 50%

> Boron 0.43 0.6-4.0 yellow under 50%

> Iodine 0.39 0.25-1.3 green under 50%

> Lithium <0.004 0.007-0.023 red under 50%

> Phosphorus 226 160-250 green over 50%

> Selenium 0.58 0.95-1.7 yellow under 50%

> Strontium 1.5 0.16-1.0 yellow over 50%

> Sulfur 55600 45500-53000 yellow over 50%

> Barium 0.66 0.16-0.8 green over 50%

> Cobalt 0.019 0.013-0.035 green under 50%

> Iron 14 8.0-19 green over 50%

> Germanium 0.063 0.045-0.065 green over 50%

> Rubidium 0.017 0.016-0.18 green under 50%

> Zirconium 0.064 0.04-1.0 green under 50%

>

>

>

>

> =======================================================

>

[Guest guest]

> I am not Mr. Cutler, but in my opinion, yes.

You are not Mr Cutler but I thank you very much for your help !

Your option about these yellow levels of toxic elements is to remove

all sources of exposure. Do you mean that a chelation protocol would

not help so much ?

> > - If we don't meet counting rules of mercury poisoning,

according to

> > them, we have to take into account the abnormal results of some

> > elements. So, should we try to do something against the copper

red

> > level, and if yes, as we leave in France, is there some

available

> > protocol for copper toxicity ?

>

>

> Give zinc.

>

>

> > - A little last question : Has the sulfur level in the test

> > something to deal with that " PST " problem that some autist

children ?

>

>

> Many times yes, altho not always. You can read my phenol [PST]

page here, for more info

>

> http://www.danasview.net/phenol.htm

>

>

> > aluminum 16 < 8.0 yellow

> > arsenic 0.11 < .08 yellow

> > lead 2.5 < 1.0 yellow

> > mercury 1.3 < 0.40 yellow

> > silver .24 < .2 yellow

>

>

> Consider removing sources of current exposure

>

> http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

>

>

> > Copper 41 8.0-16 red over 50%

> > Zinc 140 100-190 green over 50%

>

>

> Add zinc, start with low dose and work up.

>

>

> > Selenium 0.58 0.95-1.7 yellow under 50%

>

>

> Adding selenium was very beneficial for my son.

>

> Dana

[Guest guest]

Looks like she has copper toxicity among other things; which causes a lot of

adverse effects including adrenal insufficiency which the low sodium and

potassium also fit. The mercury and lead also appear to be a problem with

aluminum somewhat high as well. You might consider a good multimineral, extra

zinc to get the copper level down. more sodium and potassium and I would add a

round of lithium oratate such as by Vitamin Research Products(vrp.com)

then consider some oral chelation, maybe redo the hair test.

Bernie

Bernard Windham

berniew1@...

Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

[Guest guest]

Does she take any supplements?

If yes, I think (can somebody else confirm please?) that it might

impact the mineral results, so the counting rules are more difficult

to apply.

> Hello USA and Dear Mr CUTLER, may you help me to understand these

> hair test results for my 4.5 daughter ?

>

> If my comprehension of the rules is OK, the results don't match the

> counting rules for mineral transport impairement. But :

>

> - Are mercury and aluminium and lead important levels if they are

in

> the yellow ?

>

> - If we don't meet counting rules of mercury poisoning, according

to

> them, we have to take into account the abnormal results of some

> elements. So, should we try to do something against the copper red

> level, and if yes, as we leave in France, is there some available

> protocol for copper toxicity ?

>

> - Is the very low lithium level important and should we give some

to

> our little girl who is usually more " hypo " than " hyper " as far

> sensory problems are concerned.

>

> - A little last question : Has the sulfur level in the test

> something to deal with that " PST " problem that some autist

children ?

>

> Hair test results :

>

>

> Test date : 11/23/03

>

> Important : My daughter had ALA once a day from january to april

> 2003.

>

> Here are the results

>

> Thank you to everyone answering.

>

> POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color

> ==============================================

> aluminum 16 < 8.0 yellow

> antimony 0.05 < .066 green

> arsenic 0.11 < .08 yellow

> beryllium <0.01 < 0.02 no line

> bismuth .087 < .13 green

> cadmium .062 < .15 green

> lead 2.5 < 1.0 yellow

> mercury 1.3 < 0.40 yellow

> platinum .003 < .005 no line

> thallium < .001 < .01 no line

> thorium < .001 < .005 no line

> uranium .0016 < .06 green

> nickel .39 < .4 green

> silver .24 < .2 yellow

> tin .26 < .3 green

> titanium 0.73 < 1.0 green

>

> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color under/over 50%

> ============================================================

> Calcium 890 125-370 red over 50%

> Magnesium 18 12-30 white over 50%

> Sodium 17 12-90 green under 50%

> Potassium 11 12-40 yellow under 50%

> Copper 41 8.0-16 red over 50%

> Zinc 140 100-190 green over 50%

> Manganese 0.16 0.2-0.55 yellow under 50%

> Chromium 0.47 0.26-0.5 green over 50%

> Vanadium 0.056 0.03-0.1 white over 50%

> Molybdenum 0.064 0.05-0.13 green under 50%

> Boron 0.43 0.6-4.0 yellow under 50%

> Iodine 0.39 0.25-1.3 green under 50%

> Lithium <0.004 0.007-0.023 red under 50%

> Phosphorus 226 160-250 green over 50%

> Selenium 0.58 0.95-1.7 yellow under 50%

> Strontium 1.5 0.16-1.0 yellow over 50%

> Sulfur 55600 45500-53000 yellow over 50%

> Barium 0.66 0.16-0.8 green over 50%

> Cobalt 0.019 0.013-0.035 green under 50%

> Iron 14 8.0-19 green over 50%

> Germanium 0.063 0.045-0.065 green over 50%

> Rubidium 0.017 0.016-0.18 green under 50%

> Zirconium 0.064 0.04-1.0 green under 50%

[Guest guest]

> Any idea how to get a 5.5 yr old to take zinc? I've heard that it has no taste

when you need it, but the tests show he needs it, yet it

makes him puke to take it. Also, how much would he need? He's 50 lbs. Thanks!

You can try the Water Oz. I have not used that one. I have zinc picolinate in

capsules, which I open [when zinc is needed] and mix

into the peanut butter/honey mix that I use for all my kids' supplements.

Dana

[Guest guest]

>> Your option about these yellow levels of toxic elements is to remove

> all sources of exposure.

Not necessarily *all*, but at least the major sources of exposure.

>> Do you mean that a chelation protocol would

> not help so much ?

It will help, but if your child is receiving daily exposure, he might build up

metals as fast as they are being removed.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> Hello USA and Dear Mr CUTLER, may you help me to understand these

> hair test results for my 4.5 daughter ?

>

> Bonjour a tous en France. Nous, on a eu le meme coup. On etait

bourres de plomb, d'aluminium, de cadmium, d'arsenic, d'antimoine, et

d'autres metaux-c'est-a-dire que ca a commence par le mercure. Le

mercure accapare le souffre dans beaucoup d'enzymes et d'acides

amino, ce qui facilite l'accumulation des autres metaux. Comme il y a

sept voies de detoxification par le foie et que trois d'entre elles

etaient bouchees, il y a fallu qu'on elimine beaucoup d'aliments qui

etaient detoxifies par ces voies. Methylation- estrogen, serotonin,

histamine et aussi, produits laitiers, haricots secs (y compris le

soja, cafe et chocolat), la plupart des graines et la levure, par

exemple. Sulfoxidation-certains produits a taux eleves de benzoate,

sulfite (teintures jaunes, fruits de mer, fruits desseches), et

glutathione- peches, avocats, fumee de cigarettes, bacteries et

levure et champignons. Ca nous a drolement aide car mon fils s'est

mis a parler de lui-meme apres 3 jours et peut enfin aller a l'ecole.

Il faut qu'on suive ce regime, comme l'on fait beaucoup d'autres,

tant qu'on prend des medicaments pour se debarasser de metaux

toxiques. Le foie ne peut pas supporter la remise en circulation de

mercure, de plomb, etc. en vue d'elimination, en meme temps que ces

aliments. On prend du zingue, du calcium et du magnesium tous les

jours et une fois par semaine d'autres mineraux, c'est-a-dire que je

vide plusieurs pillules dans ce qu'on mange parce que les enfants

rouspetent trop quand je leur fais avaler tout ca. Je vous souhaite

bon courage car, quand on attend trop longtemps, il faut faire ca

petit-a-petit, mais je vois des progres. Les jours ou on prend les

medicaments, ca fait un peu pousser les souches de levure et

certaines bacteries alors on croit qu'on repart en arriere. Mais il

faut quand meme continuer, avec des periodes d'arret. Des que j'ai

cesse de manger produits laitiers, soja et graines, j'ai perdu 40

livres en 6 semaines. Je suis en train de me faire enlever mes

plombages, qui m'on cause beaucoup de souffrance toute ma vie, ainsi

qu'a mes fils, mais j'avais aussi ete bouree de gouttes pour les

yeux, pleines de mercure, pendant des annees et de chloramphenicol,

aussi plein de mercure. Alors, il faut que je patiente. Pour ce qui

est d'analises de mineraux, un des enfants avait un tres haut taut

de zingue, l'autre pas de zingue. potassium et sodium tres, tres

eleves, ce qui signifie que les glandes surrenales etaient epuisees,

probablement par tous les metaux toxiques et les bacteries, etc.

Calcium et magnesium etaient bas mais, par contre, le cuivre n'etait

pas eleve. Il parait que c'est la proportion de zingue par rapport

au qui est plus importante que les taux de ces metaux. Il faut 7

zingues pour chaque metal toxique - donc, le zingue est tres

important dans le dechargement de la pollution. Encore une fois, je

vous souhaite bon courage. ce

[Guest guest]

The copper is definitely a problem. Zinc with meals will help with

that, as will taurine, glycine, milk thistle extract and

phosphatidylcholine.

Yellow toxics aren't really significant.

The test is not completely normal and copper builds up due ot liver

issues whcih also tend to help retain mercury, so you might try

chelatoin after 2-3 months of lowering copper.

Andy . . . .. .

> Hello USA and Dear Mr CUTLER, may you help me to understand these

> hair test results for my 4.5 daughter ?

>

> If my comprehension of the rules is OK, the results don't match the

> counting rules for mineral transport impairement. But :

>

> - Are mercury and aluminium and lead important levels if they are in

> the yellow ?

>

> - If we don't meet counting rules of mercury poisoning, according to

> them, we have to take into account the abnormal results of some

> elements. So, should we try to do something against the copper red

> level, and if yes, as we leave in France, is there some available

> protocol for copper toxicity ?

>

> - Is the very low lithium level important and should we give some to

> our little girl who is usually more " hypo " than " hyper " as far

> sensory problems are concerned.

>

> - A little last question : Has the sulfur level in the test

> something to deal with that " PST " problem that some autist children ?

>

> Hair test results :

>

>

> Test date : 11/23/03

>

> Important : My daughter had ALA once a day from january to april

> 2003.

>

> Here are the results

>

> Thank you to everyone answering.

>

> POTENTIALLY TOXIC ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color

> ==============================================

> aluminum 16 < 8.0 yellow

> antimony 0.05 < .066 green

> arsenic 0.11 < .08 yellow

> beryllium <0.01 < 0.02 no line

> bismuth .087 < .13 green

> cadmium .062 < .15 green

> lead 2.5 < 1.0 yellow

> mercury 1.3 < 0.40 yellow

> platinum .003 < .005 no line

> thallium < .001 < .01 no line

> thorium < .001 < .005 no line

> uranium .0016 < .06 green

> nickel .39 < .4 green

> silver .24 < .2 yellow

> tin .26 < .3 green

> titanium 0.73 < 1.0 green

>

> ESSENTIAL AND OTHER ELEMENTS

> element result ref range color under/over 50%

> ============================================================

> Calcium 890 125-370 red over 50%

> Magnesium 18 12-30 white over 50%

> Sodium 17 12-90 green under 50%

> Potassium 11 12-40 yellow under 50%

> Copper 41 8.0-16 red over 50%

> Zinc 140 100-190 green over 50%

> Manganese 0.16 0.2-0.55 yellow under 50%

> Chromium 0.47 0.26-0.5 green over 50%

> Vanadium 0.056 0.03-0.1 white over 50%

> Molybdenum 0.064 0.05-0.13 green under 50%

> Boron 0.43 0.6-4.0 yellow under 50%

> Iodine 0.39 0.25-1.3 green under 50%

> Lithium <0.004 0.007-0.023 red under 50%

> Phosphorus 226 160-250 green over 50%

> Selenium 0.58 0.95-1.7 yellow under 50%

> Strontium 1.5 0.16-1.0 yellow over 50%

> Sulfur 55600 45500-53000 yellow over 50%

> Barium 0.66 0.16-0.8 green over 50%

> Cobalt 0.019 0.013-0.035 green under 50%

> Iron 14 8.0-19 green over 50%

> Germanium 0.063 0.045-0.065 green over 50%

> Rubidium 0.017 0.016-0.18 green under 50%

> Zirconium 0.064 0.04-1.0 green under 50%

[Guest guest]

Thank you Bernie.

> Looks like she has copper toxicity among other things; which

causes a lot of adverse effects including adrenal insufficiency which

the low sodium and potassium also fit. The mercury and lead also

appear to be a problem with aluminum somewhat high as well. You

might consider a good multimineral, extra zinc to get the copper

level down. more sodium and potassium and I would add a round of

lithium oratate such as by Vitamin Research Products(vrp.com)

> then consider some oral chelation, maybe redo the hair test.

> Bernie

>

>

> Bernard Windham

> berniew1@e...

> Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.

>

>