Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 I have a 21 year old son who has not been diagnosed as autistic but has many symptoms of autism. His doctor put him on Zoloft and Klonopin and he has been doing much better. He's attending a local college and living at home. I talked to him about chelation therapy and he agreed to try it. He did a 24 hour round last weekend. This past week he was extremely irritable and complained of stomach pains. He asks me the same questions over and over which has extremely irritated me! Yesterday he did another 24 hour round and last night I noticed his face was extremely red and that his eyes were dialated. One of his eyelids was very droopy. Also he said he felt very sick yesterday. I told him to stop (he wanted to do another 24 hours) and not do another round until he started feeling better. My questions: Is it ok for him to do the chelation while he's on these medications? And are the dialated eyes normal? He says the chelation is making him feel more autistic. Is this normal? Thanks. Sheila _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Sheila, I don't know about the drug interactions (very important to find out) but I can tell you that 24-hour cycles are not a good idea and could make him worse. You need to do 3-days at least, with the DMSA every 4 hours round the clock. (Some people do 8, but I wouldn't risk it.) You also need to make sure that his dose is not too high, and that he is getting supplementation of essential antioxidants to protect his brain and lots of water throughout the cycle. Vit. C helps with side effects. Yes, he probably will feel more autistic throughout the cycles at first--especially if the dose is too high--but he will anyway, since mercury moving through the brain will cause the symptoms of mercury poisoning. That's why we keep the dose low, give protecting antioxidants, and use water to move things through quickly. Please be careful. This stuff is nothing to fool around with. Used properly, it helps a lot; otherwise it can be dangerous, just like any drug. Are you using ALA with it? DOES YOUR SON HAVE ANY AMALGAM FILLINGS? If so, they have to come out first. Just some suggestions, from another mom of a college student who's been detoxing for 3 years now and feels much, much better! Barb [ ] dilated eyes > I have a 21 year old son who has > not been diagnosed as autistic but > has many symptoms of autism. His > doctor put him on Zoloft and Klonopin > and he has been doing much better. > He's attending a local college and > living at home. I talked to him about > chelation therapy and he agreed to > try it. He did a 24 hour round last > weekend. This past week he was > extremely irritable and complained > of stomach pains. He asks me the > same questions over and over which > has extremely irritated me! Yesterday > he did another 24 hour round and last > night I noticed his face was extremely > red and that his eyes were dialated. > One of his eyelids was very droopy. > Also he said he felt very sick yesterday. > I told him to stop (he wanted to do > another 24 hours) and not do another > round until he started feeling better. > My questions: Is it ok for him to do > the chelation while he's on these > medications? And are the dialated > eyes normal? He says the chelation > is making him feel more autistic. Is > this normal? Thanks. > Sheila > > _________________________________________________________________ > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > ======================================================= > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2003 Report Share Posted August 2, 2003 Sheila, It's dangerous to do less than 3 days on at a time,you could easily redistribute the mercury to the brain. R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2010 Report Share Posted March 16, 2010 Having only one pupil dilated is completely different than having both dilated in concert. I agree with what everyone else has posted, but you said ONE pupil is dilated. That is potentially medical rather than brought on by emotions. If only one pupil is dilated, she may have Adie's syndrome, a condition in which one pupil contracts more slowly than the other in response to light. It's usually caused either by a malfunction in the mechanism that controls the dilation reflex or from a harmless inflammation of the eye nerves. More seriously, a single dilated pupil could indicate a brain injury, stroke or tumor. If this is " new " , you should bring her to be seen immediately. An opthamologist can refer her on to another if it's not caused by ocular insufficiency. And, if she has always had it, probably it would be good to raise the question about Adie's. If she has always had it but it's getting worse, you should ask the doctor about a tumor that is growing or inflammation that is worsening. > > >  > Hi, > My daughter has one pupil that is constantly more dilated than the other. Any thoughts about that?? > Thanks > > > > > ________________________________ > From: <alyricss@...> > jrussell8@...; > Sent: Mon, March 15, 2010 2:48:19 PM > Subject: dilated eyes > >  > HI Jack > > My kids used to get dilated eyes. Its either an adrenaline or cortisol rush > from PTSD, fear, excitement, - basically an inability to correctly read > and respond to the situation, and then to self-regulate properly. Several > kinds of brain training may help - it did for us. We found that proper > nutrition and vitamins was the starting point - clearing up GI issues. Then > it later took some specialized work with a therapist to work on some > psychological issues like RAD and PTSD. One thing that really helped and was > dramatic in how fast it worked was a therapy called EMDR which is now > approved for veterans with PTSD. > After that the best thing we did was Zengar neurofeedback which assists in > calming, in attention - which helps everything if they aren't so hyper, and > in training the brain to use the appropriate wavelengths to process > information. > > There are developmental movement programs that I think are very beneficial - > like Brain Gym, the whole NR program and there are others - like > Bal-a-Visx. Basically you are trying to teach this brain to self regulate, > slow down and give enough time to appropriately assess a situation before it > reacts and goes into fight or flight mode. > > You should also consider adrenal problems in this arena, which can include > processing of fats and cholesterol levels. Fish oils take a while to get > going but I think should be included in these kids diets. Also avoid like > crazy any processed foods fats like fast food junk, etc. We only use olive > oil at home - canola is also good. If I let them eat french fries from > 's as a treat I give them a digestive enzyme to go with it but that > should be a rare event. > > The fake fats that are loaded into processed foods are very hard to break > down and can wreak havoc with the adrenal glands. Most people do not > realize that cholesterols and fats are precursors to many hormones in our > bodies and the beginning point of cholesterol breakdown is in the adrenal > gland. The improper fats that our society eats is probably a contributor to > various disease states that occur later in life - even if you are thin. > > The dilated pupils are a symptom of underlying lack of regulation - so go at > this from the paradigm of self regulation. Even think of it as a form of > sensory integration disorder. > > I also have observed that just 1 treatment is unlikely to solve the whole > problem - many times we need to migrate from one treatment to another. I > lay the reason for that at the feet of where we are in the state of the art > today in testing in neuroscience. Its still pretty prehistoric - if we knew > exactly what was wrong we could work on it, but that is usually impossible > to pinpoint. And the body is a very complicated mix of chemicals that all > interact. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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