questions about supplements

[Guest guest]

jrrjim,

Do you mean they're cheap as in not high quality or cheap as in

inexpensive?

How does one establish the relative quality/efficacy of different

supplements?

hil

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> > I hear a lot use NOW products. I was told by my naturopath that they

> > were not the best quality. What are your opinions?

> >

> > Cheri

> >

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[Guest guest]

How to find out efficacy?

Try it out yourself and listen to your body.

I tried several before and I'm convinced real raw food / meat / herbs /

fruits / juiced veggies are the most powerful.

philzach wrote:

>

> jrrjim,

> Do you mean they're cheap as in not high quality or cheap as in

> inexpensive?

> How does one establish the relative quality/efficacy of different

> supplements?

> hil

[Guest guest]

I wonder if your naturopath is selling a different brand? I haven't

tried a lot of NOW products but some of the for the brain (not for

cancer but for amino acid deficiency that leads to ADD, etc) like GABA

powder and 5HTP are excellent and a good price. Some things I

recommend that I can't do without are pretty pricey so it's nice to

have a few cheap things to balance it out if someone needs them.

I know some people on this list don't believe in muscle testing but I

think it's a good way to tell if a product should even be used (or use

other methods like EAV). Price shouldn't be the first consideration

when you have cancer. The biggest expense is using stuff that doesn't

work.

Sharon

>

> I hear a lot use NOW products. I was told by my naturopath that they

> were not the best quality. What are your opinions?

>

> Cheri

>

[Guest guest]

Cheap price-wise. In terms of quality -- well, how do you judge this?

All I know is that different chemicals have different

bioavailabilities. E.g., magnesium citrate is 4x more bioavailable

than mangnesium oxide. But I don't know about the differences

between different brands.

I do know I avoid the really cheapo brands like you might find in

Safeway, that are pressed harder than rocks, and most of the pills go

all the way through you.

>

> I hear a lot use NOW products. I was told by my naturopath that

they

> were not the best quality. What are your opinions?

>

> Cheri

>

[Guest guest]

We take Carlson, Norwegian Salmon Oil Soft Gels for EPA & DHA.

Ingredients of the soft gel are : Beef gelatin, glycerin, water.

Does anyone know if those are safe to take? What supplement do you

recommend for Omega 3?

[Guest guest]

The most reputable vitamin companies will provide independent assays,

usually done by universities. These usually come on a cdrom. You can

probably get them by request. I get them on a regular basis from

Allergy Research, Pure Encapsulations and Ethical Nutrients

(Metagenics). At home I use Now products , especially their individual

amino acids. They are fairly priced and the quality seems quite good.

Back in the late 1980's there was a shakeup in the industry when it was

discovered that many companies were misrepresenting content. Some of

the supplements, at that time, had NONE of the substance they were

supposed to provide. This included Standard Process. This was alarming

to my profession because a lot of chiropractors were using Standard

Process at the time. Voluntary third party testing was the result of

all this.

Mike

cheryl wrote:

>

> Yes I use several brands but the NOW one suprises me

>

> Cheri

>

>

> >

> > I use several companies..

> > One I like is Stanard Process, since they have always used the whole

> food concept in all their products, plus synergism

> > In some cases. like the beta glucans, Iuse Peakimmune, becuse they

> specialize in that one thing, and they say their testing has shown a

> doubling of the NK cells with use of their product.

> > I amnot endorsing them. There are other companies that also

> specialize in just one or two products, like Cellffod, etc..

> > often people who have worked a long time at a healthfood/vitamin

> store have good info,since they read the literature on these things,a

> nd get feedback from customers..also,of course holistic doctors

>

>

[Guest guest]

They are one of the major lines at GNC and are also sold at Vitamin Shoppe.

Mike

cheryl wrote:

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> Thank you. Perhaps it could be that they are pretty much limited in

> who they sell through? Like your general health food store doesn't

> carry them? I have only seen them in discount stores.

>

> Cheri

>

>

> >

> > Hello cheryl,

> >

> > I can't speak for all of their product line, but I've used a number

> > of their products and believe they are of high quality.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I'd suggest either mixing fresh flax oil, and salmon oil with coconut

oil and using that, or buy Udo's Choice oil in a small bottle, keeping

it refrigerated. Freeze any amount you won't get to a awhile.

I would not use capsules with beef gelatin in them.

Mike

crsegal wrote:

>

> We take Carlson, Norwegian Salmon Oil Soft Gels for EPA & DHA.

> Ingredients of the soft gel are : Beef gelatin, glycerin, water.

> Does anyone know if those are safe to take? What supplement do you

> recommend for Omega 3?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cheryl, with no disrespect to your naturopath, it's easy to offer an

offhand comment when you don't have to back it up with some kind of

documentation or solid information. Does he sell products himself?

If so, there's your answer. If not, he must have some evidence to

support his criticism.

The old truism " Talk's cheap " may well apply here.

Best Regards,

Phil

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> From: cheryl

> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:26 PM

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> Subject: [ ] Questions about supplements

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> I hear a lot use NOW products. I was told by my naturopath that they

> were not the best quality. What are your opinions?

>

> Cheri

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[Guest guest]

No they do not but that is why I was asking. I want to find out others

opinions. As some things I would really like a cheaper alternative.

Cheri

Cheryl, with no disrespect to your naturopath, it's easy to offer an

offhand comment when you don't have to back it up with some kind of

documentation or solid information. Does he sell products himself?

If so, there's your answer. If not, he must have some evidence to

support his criticism. The old truism " Talk's cheap " may well apply here.

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> From: cheryl

> I hear a lot use NOW products. I was told by my naturopath that they were not

the best quality. What are your opinions?

[Guest guest]

I am not about to put too much stock in what some Health-Food Store salesperson

claims. Most are not any more knowledgeable than you.

I have used Now Brand products and will continue to use them until some

legitimate testing organization, such as Consumer Reports, tells me they do not

contain what is claimed or that they contain things I don't want.

Where possible, such as with Magnesium and Ascorbic Acid, I buy the bulk powder

and fill my own capsules which I doubt have any MSG in them. When MSG is added

to something there is usually some wording indicating that.

For those concerned, they may buy vegetarian capsules, however the type I use

have only Gelatin and water and are certified Kosher for those interested.

Joe C.