Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Welcome!! Always happy to hear that someone is giving the diet a try. How old is your son? I'm curious to know why your dietician isn't concerned with the carb content of your meds, but wants you to measure jello??? In fact, we do just the opposite. My daughter isn't on meds anymore but we check the carb content of all her supplements. Luckily all together it is about one gram, so we just figure that into her breakfast when she takes them. Our dietician allows jello as a free food, with the understanding that it counts as a liquid-- so we were careful in the beginning with regard to her fluid limits. Right now, we have no fluid limit because she concentrates her urine well and she doesn't need 160 ketone measurements. She actually does better around 80. But, to answer your question, the only thing jello has in a serving (1/2c. prepared) is 1 g. of protein and a minute amt. of carb from the maltodextrin. BTW, some kids are sensitive to maltodextrin. You might keep that in mind IF you have problems. Maybe try without it and see if it helps. Are you using a meal planner? I use Stanford's. Jello is actually in there. Per 100g. there is 1.16 pro, 0 fat, 0.17 carb. We use Best Foods mayo all the time. In fact, it is in the Stanford Planner, too. We have always used romaine lettuce and continue to do so on the diet. Lettuce of any kind is basically fiber and water. It has very little nutrition but the deep green varieties have some more trace minerals and possibly higher levels of enzymes. I would go with those but, if he only likes iceberg, use that, at least for now. For bacon, I use the value in the Stanford planner which is an average value for cooked bacon. When I buy bacon, I look for a good mix of fat and lean in the strip. Doesn't mean the whole pkg. will be the same, though.. LOL All bacon pkgs. that I've seen list their values for cooked bacon. The Stanford value for 100g. is 33.30 pro, 41.70 fat, 0 carb. Good Luck. I hope you have great success with the diet. Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Thanks for the reply! Our son Jordan is 13 and has had a mixed seizure disorder since he was two. So far, two of his meds contribute to a little over 500mg of carbs. I still need to find out what the other two meds he's on have. I thought the dietitian was going to have that info when we started. I'm slowly learning....Thanks again > > Always happy to hear that someone is giving the diet a try. How old > is your son? > > I'm curious to know why your dietician isn't concerned with the carb > content of your meds, but wants you to measure jello??? In fact, we > do just the opposite. My daughter isn't on meds anymore but we check > the carb content of all her supplements. Luckily all together it is > about one gram, so we just figure that into her breakfast when she > takes them. > > Our dietician allows jello as a free food, with the understanding > that it counts as a liquid-- so we were careful in the beginning with > regard to her fluid limits. Right now, we have no fluid limit > because she concentrates her urine well and she doesn't need 160 > ketone measurements. She actually does better around 80. > > But, to answer your question, the only thing jello has in a serving > (1/2c. prepared) is 1 g. of protein and a minute amt. of carb from > the maltodextrin. BTW, some kids are sensitive to maltodextrin. You > might keep that in mind IF you have problems. Maybe try without it > and see if it helps. Are you using a meal planner? I use > Stanford's. Jello is actually in there. Per 100g. there is 1.16 > pro, 0 fat, 0.17 carb. > > We use Best Foods mayo all the time. In fact, it is in the Stanford > Planner, too. > > We have always used romaine lettuce and continue to do so on the > diet. Lettuce of any kind is basically fiber and water. It has very > little nutrition but the deep green varieties have some more trace > minerals and possibly higher levels of enzymes. I would go with > those but, if he only likes iceberg, use that, at least for now. > > For bacon, I use the value in the Stanford planner which is an > average value for cooked bacon. When I buy bacon, I look for a good > mix of fat and lean in the strip. Doesn't mean the whole pkg. will > be the same, though.. LOL All bacon pkgs. that I've seen list their > values for cooked bacon. The Stanford value for 100g. is 33.30 pro, > 41.70 fat, 0 carb. > > Good Luck. I hope you have great success with the diet. > > Cammie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Yes, he's on lamictal, diamox, keppra and felbamate, all table form. I'm wondering if any of these meds come in a more keto friendly form. I'll have to check with a pharmacist. I've also read that some folks use that pharmacy, Ridgerx, that compounds meds. Do you know if they also compound seizure meds. Must be expensive huh? --- Iketogenic , " Atyeo " <shelly@s...> wrote: > Curious, are all of Jordan's meds in pill form? > > > > Re: Meds carb counts > > > > Thanks for the reply! Our son Jordan is 13 and has had a mixed > seizure disorder since he was two. So far, two of his meds contribute > to a little over 500mg of carbs. I still need to find out what the > other two meds he's on have. I thought the dietitian was going to > have that info when we started. I'm slowly learning....Thanks again > > > > Always happy to hear that someone is giving the diet a try. How > old > > is your son? > > > > I'm curious to know why your dietician isn't concerned with the > carb > > content of your meds, but wants you to measure jello??? In fact, > we > > do just the opposite. My daughter isn't on meds anymore but we > check > > the carb content of all her supplements. Luckily all together it > is > > about one gram, so we just figure that into her breakfast when she > > takes them. > > > > Our dietician allows jello as a free food, with the understanding > > that it counts as a liquid-- so we were careful in the beginning > with > > regard to her fluid limits. Right now, we have no fluid limit > > because she concentrates her urine well and she doesn't need 160 > > ketone measurements. She actually does better around 80. > > > > But, to answer your question, the only thing jello has in a serving > > (1/2c. prepared) is 1 g. of protein and a minute amt. of carb from > > the maltodextrin. BTW, some kids are sensitive to maltodextrin. > You > > might keep that in mind IF you have problems. Maybe try without it > > and see if it helps. Are you using a meal planner? I use > > Stanford's. Jello is actually in there. Per 100g. there is 1.16 > > pro, 0 fat, 0.17 carb. > > > > We use Best Foods mayo all the time. In fact, it is in the > Stanford > > Planner, too. > > > > We have always used romaine lettuce and continue to do so on the > > diet. Lettuce of any kind is basically fiber and water. It has > very > > little nutrition but the deep green varieties have some more trace > > minerals and possibly higher levels of enzymes. I would go with > > those but, if he only likes iceberg, use that, at least for now. > > > > For bacon, I use the value in the Stanford planner which is an > > average value for cooked bacon. When I buy bacon, I look for a > good > > mix of fat and lean in the strip. Doesn't mean the whole pkg. will > > be the same, though.. LOL All bacon pkgs. that I've seen list > their > > values for cooked bacon. The Stanford value for 100g. is 33.30 > pro, > > 41.70 fat, 0 carb. > > > > Good Luck. I hope you have great success with the diet. > > > > Cammie > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2003 Report Share Posted December 15, 2003 Hi Joanne, Looks like others have jumped in and answered many of your questions better than I could. I would say that any medication should be figured in, especially in the beginning. They are getting such a small amount of carbs anyway, and the meds could easily add up to a pretty big percentage of his daily portion. Hopefully he'll be able to get rid of some or all of these and you won't have to worry about their carb content anymore! I haven't used the mayonnaise...that brand isn't available here. Macie won't touch mayo, unfortunately. It has prevented us from using some good recipes, because she won't even eat it cooked into anything (casseroles, etc.) We do use Kraft ranch dressing as a dip for her raw veggies, and it has a bit of sugar. We've used it all along (the version with bacon is highest in fat). I think the key is to find something your child tolerates, and then stick to the same brand during the course of the diet. I still try to make a habit of checking the labels periodically even on our usual brands to make sure they haven't changed anything. We don't figure in jello at all. She doesn't have it very often as she's gotten tired of it. If she ate some every day, it may make a difference. The pre-prepared cups are convenient for school lunches and make them feel a bit more like they are eating what others can have. We use the sugar-free pudding mix with cream instead of milk to make pudding and popsicles. It has a fair amount of carbs, so I do calculate that all of that. The iceburg lettuce seems to be the " juiciest " of all of the lettuce varieties. Don't know if that has any bearing on its " free " value, but I'd think any of them used in moderation would be OK. We weigh bacon after cooking, but I've never been told one way or the other on that. We may not be doing that correctly. The book doesn't specify, so hopefully someone else will jump in and set the record straight about that! Good luck to Jordan!!!!!! Glenna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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