Re:overmethylator's selenium/Penelope,Marti

[Guest guest]

Penelope,

I am an overmethylator trying to prepare myself for chelation with the

various suggested supplements.I stopped selenium selenite because this was

said to stress the sulfation pathway and just changed to

seleniomethionine.So I'm a little bit confused in regards to Marti's

inquiry,what would be the best choice for an overmethylator??

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,

J.

[ ] Re: SAM-e for our kids?/methionine

> from that same article at

> http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walsh.htm

>

> B. Overmethylation: This condition is the biochemical opposite of

> undermethylation. It is characterized by elevated levels of

> serotonin, dopamine, and norepinephrine, low whole blood histamine,

> and low absolute basophils. This population is characterized by the

> following typical symptoms: Absence of seasonal, inhalent allergies,

> but a multitude of chemical or food sensitivities, high anxiety which

> is evident to all, low libido, obsessions but not compulsions,

> tendency for paranoia and auditory hallucinations, underachievement

> as a child, heavy body hair, hyperactivity, " nervous " legs, and

> grandiosity. They usually respond well to folic acid, B-12,

> niacinamide, DMAE, choline, manganese, zinc, omega-3 essential oils

> (DHA and EPA) and vitamins C and E, but should avoid supplements of

> methionine, SAMe, inositol, TMG and DMG.

>

>

>

> > Is there any reason, then, to be cautious about methionine

> supplements (like

> > zinc methionine, seleniomethionine) if your child is an

> overmethylator?

> >

> > This is probably a dumb question.

> >

> > marti

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry, my child is not an overmethylator and I haven't researched

in that direction. I posted that article because I thought it would

be helpful as a starting point for others. I'm one who takes one

article and then researches the points in other places to see if

others have supported the theory, either clinically or scientifically.

Maybe Marti can help? I apologize for my ignorance.

Penny

> > > Is there any reason, then, to be cautious about methionine

> > supplements (like

> > > zinc methionine, seleniomethionine) if your child is an

> > overmethylator?

> > >

> > > This is probably a dumb question.

> > >

> > > marti

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 27/4/03 11:15:09 am, bubbetta@... writes:

> I'm sorry, my child is not an overmethylator and I haven't researched

> in that direction.  I posted that article because I thought it would

> be helpful as a starting point for others.  I'm one who takes one

> article and then researches the points in other places to see if

> others have supported the theory, either clinically or scientifically.

>

> Maybe Marti can help?  I apologize for my ignorance.

>

> Penny

>

>

> > Penelope,

> > I am an overmethylator trying to prepare myself for chelation with

> the

> > various suggested supplements.I stopped selenium selenite because

> this was

> > said to stress the sulfation pathway and just changed to

> > seleniomethionine.So I'm a little bit confused in regards to Marti's

> > inquiry,what would be the best choice for an overmethylator??

> > I'd appreciate any suggestions.

> > Thanks,

> > J.

>

I was more confused than you, which is why I asked the question because I

wondered if methionine would not be a good thing because it lends a methyl

group (?). Please take no direction from me, who is v. confused about

methylation. I don't really understand which Se to use either! I use

brazil nuts and a little seleniomethioine.

marti

[Guest guest]

is that selenite ? something else?

[Guest guest]

> I don't really understand which Se to use either! I use

> brazil nuts and a little seleniomethioine.

You could try selenium yeast, if you want...

Valentina

[Guest guest]

> what would be the best choice for an overmethylator??

B6?

Valentina

[Guest guest]

> what would be the best choice for an overmethylator??

Oh! You were asking specifically about Selenium?

I suggested selenium yeast, if selenomethionine is not a good choice. But I

don't know if selenomethionine should not be used by overmethylators.

Valentina

[Guest guest]

> is that selenite ? something else?

It's selenium yeast.

It's not selenite.

It's another organic form of selenium.

Valentina