Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 DMSA does bind with mercury and excete it from the body. It does so only from the blood and soft tissue, while EDTA which also crosses the blood brain barrier chelates out the blood, soft tissue and bones. Mercury is at the top of the EDTA affinity chart, but it is also an excellent chelator of lead. whppatrick Momofmanysix@... wrote: I know several of you use ALA alone as a chelator. Please help me understand how this works. I know ALA is supposed to cross the BBB but what then binds with it and excretes it out of the body. Isn't that what the DMSA is used for? Thanks for any explanation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 > I know several of you use ALA alone as a chelator. Please help me understand > how this works. I know ALA is supposed to cross the BBB but what then binds > with it and excretes it out of the body. Isn't that what the DMSA is used > for? Thanks for any explanation. the ALA excretes it out of the body. they work similarly---- but the DMSA never crosses the BBB to get the stuff in the brain to begin with. neither one binds tightly---- but there is no special reason for ALA to drop the mercury when it gets it in the body. Moria Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 > I know several of you use ALA alone as a chelator. Please help me understand > how this works. I know ALA is supposed to cross the BBB but what then binds > with it and excretes it out of the body. In my family's experience, the ALA alone does a good job of removing the mercury. I use vitamin C and/or selenium to clear out free-floating metals in the blood, that helps also. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 Hi, What dosage do you use if you are just using the ALA ? 1/2 mg per pd?? Thanks > > I know several of you use ALA alone as a chelator. Please help me > understand > > how this works. I know ALA is supposed to cross the BBB but what > then binds > > with it and excretes it out of the body. > > > In my family's experience, the ALA alone does a good job of removing > the mercury. I use vitamin C and/or selenium to clear out > free-floating metals in the blood, that helps also. > > Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 > > > I know several of you use ALA alone as a chelator. Please help > me > > understand > > > how this works. I know ALA is supposed to cross the BBB but what > > then binds > > > with it and excretes it out of the body. > > > > > > In my family's experience, the ALA alone does a good job of > removing > > the mercury. I use vitamin C and/or selenium to clear out > > free-floating metals in the blood, that helps also. > > > > Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 --- In , " zoelle1995 " <rashikino@n...> wrote: > Hi, What dosage do you use if you are just using the ALA ? 1/2 mg per > pd?? Thanks I started my son with 25 mg, he weighed about 50 pounds at the time. I gradually increased it as he tolerated each higher dose. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2009 Report Share Posted May 28, 2009 We used both but you can use ala only, just dose it every three hours on AC protocol and dose it by his weight. 1/8 mg per pound to start. The top end is 1/2mg per pound. It will work. What the DAN recommended would make me very sick. Many doctors do not realize ala is a mercury chelator, so their recommendations apply as a supplement, however, for someone with mercury....it would be a bad thing to do. I have found ala to be very powerful and will create side effect if taken in high dose infrequently. Even if I am late with my low doses of ala, I will get side effects. I can't imagine taking that much and so far apart in timing. > > Hello, > Looking for your help and experience. > Did you chelate with ALA? did it work? is there a harm to do first ALA and later introduce DMSA? (Yes sorry, I am posting this question again) > I am confused because other DAN recommmend to have for example, 100 mg of ALA just as a nutritional supplement and not to chelate > From Andy's book it says that I could chelate my son 3old with ALA every three hours on weekends (every 3 hours from when he gets to school on friday at 3pm to when he leaves on Monday at 8am) > thank you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 > > Hello, > Looking for your help and experience. > Did you chelate with ALA? I did, for four children and myself. >>did it work? Yes >>is there a harm to do first ALA and later introduce DMSA? Not in my opinion. > I am confused because other DAN recommmend to have for example, 100 mg of ALA just as a nutritional supplement and not to chelate ALA will chelate, because that's what it does. It does not matter what are YOUR [or the doctor's] intentions for it. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 We are chelating with ALA alone and seeing progress after only 3 rounds. We use the low frequent dosing per Andy Cutler. You can't give ALA as a nutritional supplement and NOT chelate. It doesn't have a choice, it is not animate. It chemically does what it does in the body. You can't " tell " it what to do. Research every supplement you give, you can't go on what anyone tells you about any supplement, and only you know your child's unique situation. DAN's are not Gods. Many (not all), do not understand how to safely approach chelation. Most want to do challenge tests, too, which are dangerous and harmful to many. Andy has many posts about how you should really educate yourself on how these things work, and how trusting one doctor most likely got you here, now blindly trusting another doctor may make things worse. Ask any DAN for results - number of kids who lost diagnosis, number who got worse, number who " showed improvement " . Ask around from other parents about the DAN. For the money they charge we should expect nothing but the best care - but that is not always the case. We nearly got burnt by a bad DAN. Fortunately, I was reading A-M and did not go too far down that path. I got here because I was following what the parents of recovered kids were saying. The vast majority said AC chelation was the biggest piece. Not the only piece, but the one that had lasting and signifcant and all around results that addressed the root of many other issues. I met a mom in my area with a recovered son and asked her about AC chelation - her response: " THAT was THE thing that recovered my kid - other things helped, but the supps and therapies worked when we finally got all the crap out of him. " The parents (most of them) have no motive (ego/$$) to steer other parents wrong. For the parents, the well being of our kids is OUR LIFE. For a physician, even a DAN - at the end of the day, no matter how committed...it is still a job and they can go home. Parents can't ever 'take a day off', or 'go home' at the end of the day. Is it a pain to get up every 3-4 hours? Yeah - and well... so what? If I had to get up throughout the night to give my kid a medicine that would save his life, I would. I don't think this is any different. I got up at night to feed him as a newborn. And at least now he does sleep on the nights off round! It will be even MORE of a pain if your child never gets better, or even gets worse from incorrect use of ALA. ALA on AC protocol WORKS. > > Hello, > Looking for your help and experience. > Did you chelate with ALA? did it work? is there a harm to do first ALA and later introduce DMSA? (Yes sorry, I am posting this question again) > I am confused because other DAN recommmend to have for example, 100 mg of ALA just as a nutritional supplement and not to chelate > From Andy's book it says that I could chelate my son 3old with ALA every three hours on weekends (every 3 hours from when he gets to school on friday at 3pm to when he leaves on Monday at 8am) > thank you. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 , You should post this on the CK2 group. So many people in that group think DAN!s are God. > > > > Hello, > > Looking for your help and experience. > > Did you chelate with ALA? did it work? is there a harm to do first ALA and later introduce DMSA? (Yes sorry, I am posting this question again) > > I am confused because other DAN recommmend to have for example, 100 mg of ALA just as a nutritional supplement and not to chelate > > From Andy's book it says that I could chelate my son 3old with ALA every three hours on weekends (every 3 hours from when he gets to school on friday at 3pm to when he leaves on Monday at 8am) > > thank you. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2009 Report Share Posted May 29, 2009 Good thing I'm not on that group! You may post it if you want. I know there ARE good DAN doctors out there, somewhere. That hasn't been my experience so far. Our last one wanted to: - vaccinate my child - why? " he's a boy, he should have a tetanus shot " - do provocation/neutralization allergy treatments (needles!) - my son has MEDICALLY induced PTSD, -do a challenge test -and did sell me supplements with ingredients my son was known to be allergic to. Twice. The replacements he sold me ALSO had the same allergen (soy) in them. We literally walked out. I'm not paying thousands of dollars to someone who harms my child, and knows less about recovering him than I do. Dealing with all this is difficult enough. Why make it more complicated and expensive than it has to be? Just like some (most of) pharma and mainstream medicine, there are DAN's out there whistling all the way to the bank - money made off our kids getting injured AGAIN. I just reached a point where NO ONE was going to do ANY MORE harm to this kid under the guise of 'helping' him, and I sure am NOT going to pay someone for it. Why is that so radical? > > > > > > Hello, > > > Looking for your help and experience. > > > Did you chelate with ALA? did it work? is there a harm to do first ALA and later introduce DMSA? (Yes sorry, I am posting this question again) > > > I am confused because other DAN recommmend to have for example, 100 mg of ALA just as a nutritional supplement and not to chelate > > > From Andy's book it says that I could chelate my son 3old with ALA every three hours on weekends (every 3 hours from when he gets to school on friday at 3pm to when he leaves on Monday at 8am) > > > thank you. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2009 Report Share Posted May 30, 2009 I'm not paying thousands of dollars to someone who harms my child, and knows less about recovering him than I do. ----->Amen!!!! That is sooooooooo often the truth!!!!!! Dealing with all this is difficult enough. Why make it more complicated and expensive than it has to be? Just like some (most of) pharma and mainstream medicine, there are DAN's out there whistling all the way to the bank - money made off our kids getting injured AGAIN. ------>That is soooooo unconscionable, but it is so often true! It has been our experience to have that happen....not only for our " special kids " but for our whole family... I just reached a point where NO ONE was going to do ANY MORE harm to this kid under the guise of 'helping' him, and I sure am NOT going to pay someone for it. ----> Amen!!!! being an advocate and doing what's best for our families is what being a Mom is all about!! > > Why is that so radical? ------> Cuz you are thinking outside the box. Stepping on " the wisdom " of those with the letters MD after their names....but whose heart is often only on their checkbook. And scaring the everliving outta the big Pharma!!! Bring it on!!! Lets get radical!! Ronni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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