Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Dawn - could your wanting to continue eating be 'Clean Plate' syndrome? I know that remains a strong 'do' for me. I sometimes wonder if eating in 'courses' would be better or worse instead of 'family style' where one fills a plate and then proceeds to eat. I know that if I remind myself before, or even during, eating that I do NOT have to finish everything on my plate, I stand a better chance of being able to do that. Its like DUH! do I forget that I can always microwave and finish up later if I get hungry then? And I do have 2 very willing plate cleaners (dogs) who are more than willing to help me 'finish' :-) Thanks for reminding me to resume practice of this! Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? It is crazy. But, I don't feel uncomfortable or anything. Or do I? I mean, to be totally honest....I don't really know how I am suppsed to feel. I have been doing the IE thing now for a little over a month. I have gotten heavier and I am okay with that. I am really just wanting to be healthy is all. But, does a person ever reach a point in which it is not so hard to stop eating. I mean, if I force myself to stop I just feeling like I am dieting. So, how does this work. Any advice would be helpful. Be blessed, ~DawnC~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 Dawn - could your wanting to continue eating be 'Clean Plate' syndrome? I know that remains a strong 'do' for me. I sometimes wonder if eating in 'courses' would be better or worse instead of 'family style' where one fills a plate and then proceeds to eat. I know that if I remind myself before, or even during, eating that I do NOT have to finish everything on my plate, I stand a better chance of being able to do that. Its like DUH! do I forget that I can always microwave and finish up later if I get hungry then? And I do have 2 very willing plate cleaners (dogs) who are more than willing to help me 'finish' :-) Thanks for reminding me to resume practice of this! Katcha IEing since March 2007 > > I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? It is crazy. But, I don't feel uncomfortable or anything. Or do I? I mean, to be totally honest....I don't really know how I am suppsed to feel. I have been doing the IE thing now for a little over a month. I have gotten heavier and I am okay with that. I am really just wanting to be healthy is all. But, does a person ever reach a point in which it is not so hard to stop eating. I mean, if I force myself to stop I just feeling like I am dieting. So, how does this work. Any advice would be helpful. Be blessed, ~DawnC~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 This is very true for me. I know that I am always feeling like I have to finish what is on my plate. BUT...I went out to eat the other day and did not finish what was on my plate. A first for me! It was great! Now, if I could just always practice this. I also tend to eat on a schedule and I have to stop doing that too. To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 11:30:00 AMSubject: Re: Advice pls.... Dawn - could your wanting to continue eating be 'Clean Plate' syndrome? I know that remains a strong 'do' for me. I sometimes wonder if eating in 'courses' would be better or worse instead of 'family style' where one fills a plate and then proceeds to eat. I know that if I remind myself before, or even during, eating that I do NOT have to finish everything on my plate, I stand a better chance of being able to do that. Its like DUH! do I forget that I can always microwave and finish up later if I get hungry then? And I do have 2 very willing plate cleaners (dogs) who are more than willing to help me 'finish' :-) Thanks for reminding me to resume practice of this!KatchaIEing since March 2007>> I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? It is crazy. But, I don't feel uncomfortable or anything. Or do I? I mean, to be totally honest....I don't really know how I am suppsed to feel. I have been doing the IE thing now for a little over a month. I have gotten heavier and I am okay with that. I am really just wanting to be healthy is all. But, does a person ever reach a point in which it is not so hard to stop eating. I mean, if I force myself to stop I just feeling like I am dieting. So, how does this work. Any advice would be helpful. Be blessed, ~DawnC~> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 I take a smaller serving knowing that it is ok for me to go back for more if I am really hungry. I often use my small but pretty plates. And I take a break after my first serving and go and do something. If I still am hungry I have a little more or some yummy fruit. I do understand your comment about feels like just another diet sometimes. I guess it takes time to really know when your full or over full. Last week I definitely ate too much and felt stuffed. It was good though so I was able to judge. Keep on posting. Sandy I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? It is crazy. But, I don't feel uncomfortable or anything. Or do I? I mean, to be totally honest....I don't really know how I am suppsed to feel. I have been doing the IE thing now for a little over a month. I have gotten heavier and I am okay with that. I am really just wanting to be healthy is all. But, does a person ever reach a point in which it is not so hard to stop eating. I mean, if I force myself to stop I just feeling like I am dieting. So, how does this work. Any advice would be helpful. Be blessed, ~DawnC~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? Are you full or satisfied? Those are different for me and if I eat until full, it is easy to overeat. If I eat until satisfied, it might feel strange to stop, but I can and I'm less tempted to overeat. For me the cue is a kind of sigh from my body and then I stop. But you could also stop and give yourself permission to keep going if you want, just to see what it feels like. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2011 Report Share Posted April 20, 2011 I am not really sure to be honest. It is very hard for me to know if I am full or satified or anything really. Everyone up here talks about listening to their body and the signs that tell them they are satisfied. What if someone...like myself...is never satisfied. I surely don't ever feel satisfied. That leads me to believe that I can't really trust what my body is telling me. To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 1:30:22 PMSubject: Re: Advice pls.... I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? Are you full or satisfied? Those are different for me and if I eat until full, it is easy to overeat. If I eat until satisfied, it might feel strange to stop, but I can and I'm less tempted to overeat. For me the cue is a kind of sigh from my body and then I stop. But you could also stop and give yourself permission to keep going if you want, just to see what it feels like. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 What if you are confusing your body being satisfied with what you want. They aren't the same thing. I suspect you dont listen to your needs in other ways, like going to bed when you are tired. Is that possible? Start listening and trust the answer will come. My problem isn't with not hearing. It's with running over what my body tells me when I'm not having emotional needs met. I am not really sure to be honest. It is very hard for me to know if I am full or satified or anything really. Everyone up here talks about listening to their body and the signs that tell them they are satisfied. What if someone...like myself...is never satisfied. I surely don't ever feel satisfied. That leads me to believe that I can't really trust what my body is telling me. To: "IntuitiveEating_Support " <IntuitiveEating_Support >Sent: Wed, April 20, 2011 1:30:22 PMSubject: Re: Advice pls.... I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? Are you full or satisfied? Those are different for me and if I eat until full, it is easy to overeat. If I eat until satisfied, it might feel strange to stop, but I can and I'm less tempted to overeat. For me the cue is a kind of sigh from my body and then I stop. But you could also stop and give yourself permission to keep going if you want, just to see what it feels like. Patti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Dawn, I felt that way when I started IE, like I was never full or satisfied. I could eat so much food it was crazy, and I never felt like I was full. I figured there was something wrong with my biochemistry or something (I had read that sometimes a person's hypothalamus doesn't make the proper hormone to signal fullness, and I was convinced I was one of those people). When I started practicing IE, I started viewing satisfied as simply not hungry anymore. I tried to stop eating one or two bites after I stopped feeling hungry just to see how I felt, and remarkably I quickly started to feel full for the first time I could remember. I think I had always expected hunger to be a very obvious thing, like a siren that would go off in my head and tell me to step away from the brownies. Since the feeling of comfortable fullness is a more nuanced feeling than I was expecting, I was blowing past it and just eating and eating, waiting for that trumpet to sound in my head. I am still working on it, but I found that after a few weeks of stopping at " no longer hungry, " I started to recognize my own fullness signals. Some of the clues that I am ready to stop eating and assess how I feel are: I want to drink water, I naturally become more interested in the conversation at the table, I find myself putting my fork or spoon down instead of keeping it constantly in my hand, the food looks or tastes slightly less delicious than the first bite, or I find myself sighing or breathing deeply. I put my plate in the kitchen then (saving it in case I decide I want more in a few minutes), and if I feel a gentle fullness in my belly in the next five or ten minutes, I know I'm done. If I don't, I grab my plate and eat a few more bites and assess again. Hope that makes sense or helps at all! Who knew I would have to learn how to feel full! Best, Liz > > >  > >I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a > >habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it > >is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But > >sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? > Are you full or satisfied? Those are different for me and if I eat until full, > it is easy to overeat. If I eat until satisfied, it might feel strange to stop, > but I can and I'm less tempted to overeat. > > > For me the cue is a kind of sigh from my body and then I stop. But you could > also stop and give yourself permission to keep going if you want, just to see > what it feels like. > > Patti > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 It's definitely a learning process for me. I just finished dinner. I was very happy because I really figured out exactly what I wanted - some kale (my favorite vegetable!), a few crackers and cheese, and a little bit of a leftover beets/feta/caramelized onion dish. I was saving room for some ice cream. The ice cream, btw, was a couple scoops I'd gone out last night to buy, and then on the very short ride home lost my desire for, so only had a couple spoonfuls when I got home - that was new behavior for me for sure - I was in touch with the desire for it AND when it left me. But back to tonite - as I was eating the ice cream, I definitely had a couple moments when had I been willing to listen to my body, I was getting a gentle " enough " signal, but I was enjoying the taste and overrode the signal. Then on top of that, when I went to put the rest of the kale away, I ate it instead. So now I'm overly full - not horribly stuffed - but overly full. Had I listened when I got those first signals, I think I'd be feeling just right, right now. Two things I'm learning from this. One, is I need to slow down. I don't usually eat that quickly, but I think I was going pretty quickly with the ice cream, and that was part of my not stopping. Another is an idea I either read in an IE book or heard here, I forget which - and that's to say to myself when I recognize that first signal, something like, " oh, good, I'm recognizing a fullness signal, that's real progress for me! now, I'm choosing to disregard it, and keep eating, that's ok. " By naming it in that way, I might sometimes decide to change my choice...it feels worth a try, in any case. And naming it feels like it will help me have that initial recognition happen more often, and since I too have been struggling with knowing when I'm full, that feels helpful. Finally, when I'm at home, I find it VERY helpful to just stop at a certain point, and walk away telling myself (and meaning it) that if I'm still hungry in 20 minutes, I'll come back for more. I've heard it said that it's a myth that it takes the body time to process that it's full, but it seems very true for me - once in a blue moon I'll go back for more, but much more often, I know by then that I'm no longer hungry, even tho' when I walked away from the table I was not at all sure. I wish I could do that when at work or out at a restaurant. Tho' as I write that, I realize that at a restaurant, I can excuse myself to go to the ladies room at the moment that if I were home I'd be walking away, and see if that helps. > > > >> > >> I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? > >> > > > > Are you full or satisfied? Those are different for me and if I eat until full, it is easy to overeat. If I eat until satisfied, it might feel strange to stop, but I can and I'm less tempted to overeat. > > > > For me the cue is a kind of sigh from my body and then I stop. But you could also stop and give yourself permission to keep going if you want, just to see what it feels like. > > > > Patti > >> > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2011 Report Share Posted April 21, 2011 Thank you Liz...that helps alot. It is good to here that I am not the only one that is having to learn how to feel full. I was starting to think something was seriously wrong. Someone gave me some advice to walk away from the plate long enough to see if I am full. I looks like you do the same thing. I am going to have to give that a try. Be blessed, DawnC To: IntuitiveEating_Support Sent: Thu, April 21, 2011 12:41:20 PMSubject: Re: Advice pls.... Dawn,I felt that way when I started IE, like I was never full or satisfied. I could eat so much food it was crazy, and I never felt like I was full. I figured there was something wrong with my biochemistry or something (I had read that sometimes a person's hypothalamus doesn't make the proper hormone to signal fullness, and I was convinced I was one of those people).When I started practicing IE, I started viewing satisfied as simply not hungry anymore. I tried to stop eating one or two bites after I stopped feeling hungry just to see how I felt, and remarkably I quickly started to feel full for the first time I could remember. I think I had always expected hunger to be a very obvious thing, like a siren that would go off in my head and tell me to step away from the brownies. Since the feeling of comfortable fullness is a more nuanced feeling than I was expecting, I was blowing past it and just eating and eating, waiting for that trumpet to sound in my head. I am still working on it, but I found that after a few weeks of stopping at "no longer hungry," I started to recognize my own fullness signals. Some of the clues that I am ready to stop eating and assess how I feel are: I want to drink water, I naturally become more interested in the conversation at the table, I find myself putting my fork or spoon down instead of keeping it constantly in my hand, the food looks or tastes slightly less delicious than the first bite, or I find myself sighing or breathing deeply. I put my plate in the kitchen then (saving it in case I decide I want more in a few minutes), and if I feel a gentle fullness in my belly in the next five or ten minutes, I know I'm done. If I don't, I grab my plate and eat a few more bites and assess again. Hope that makes sense or helps at all! Who knew I would have to learn how to feel full!Best,Liz> > >  > >I can tell when I am full I just can't seem to stop. I guess it is just such a > >habit to continue eating that it is hard for me to stop. I do see how some of it > >is still last supper eating and when I recognize that I can stop. But > >sometimes....I just don't wanna stop ya know? > Are you full or satisfied? Those are different for me and if I eat until full, > it is easy to overeat. If I eat until satisfied, it might feel strange to stop, > but I can and I'm less tempted to overeat. > > > For me the cue is a kind of sigh from my body and then I stop. But you could > also stop and give yourself permission to keep going if you want, just to see > what it feels like. > > Patti> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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