Guest guest Posted February 13, 2001 Report Share Posted February 13, 2001 Hi Kathy! " Disappointed but not defeated " is *so* well said! You are showing the signs of a true champion. By taking pictures, you enabled yourself to evaluate where you were, to identify a problem area - and to commit to improving! An *extremely* healthy attitude. I predict that you will overcome your disappointment quickly, as you add emphasis again to the nutritional part of your program. I hope it bolsters your spirits, to learn that I drew inspiration from your words. Keep with it - I know you will have a great success story to tell us when you do. Energetically, --- FMBC: Fitness and the Mind-Body Connection an unofficial Transformation Support site and " on ramp " for Body-for-LIFE by Cherita and Axel http://fitmind.home.mindspring.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2001 Report Share Posted February 13, 2001 Excellent lesson learned. To achieve transformation you need to lose bodyfat, not scale weight and the nutrition is a critical part (not the only part). But you have done just right. to be successful you need to make your mistakes quickly and move on by acting on what you've learned. Minor setbacks are invaluable as lessons to help make good decisions in the future. Getting body fat measurements regularly helps to give you real information to respond better to what you are doing. The scale can tell lies and I can't tell you how many lies I've told myself only to catch them later. Just shake it off, learn your lesson and get down to business with renewed commitment just like you've done and you will be a strong champion with the strength to meet any future obstacles. Stay strong and plan ahead for success. All the best! Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2001 Report Share Posted February 13, 2001 Excellent lesson learned. To achieve transformation you need to lose bodyfat, not scale weight and the nutrition is a critical part (not the only part). But you have done just right. to be successful you need to make your mistakes quickly and move on by acting on what you've learned. Minor setbacks are invaluable as lessons to help make good decisions in the future. Getting body fat measurements regularly helps to give you real information to respond better to what you are doing. The scale can tell lies and I can't tell you how many lies I've told myself only to catch them later. Just shake it off, learn your lesson and get down to business with renewed commitment just like you've done and you will be a strong champion with the strength to meet any future obstacles. Stay strong and plan ahead for success. All the best! Kit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 > I have been chelating my seven year old with ALA/DSMA every four > hours since January. At first, it was just ALA which he did not seem > to tolerate in even a small dose. I switched to DSMA alone and he > actually seemed to improve a little. It seems to be short lived, > while we are chelating and then he regresses and we to where he was > before. A little background: He is lead toxic, deficiencies in > selenium, B viamins and iron. There were also several food > sensitivities including milk, wheat, soy, chocolate, nitrates, food > dyes, peanuts, MSG , Aspartame and sugar. He also has very low HCL, > or stomach acid. Very few supplements have seemed to make a > difference. We tried SNT, EFA's, enzymes, probiotics, amino acids, > zinc, vitamin C, magnesium to name a few. The only one that seemd to > help was selenium, but also very short lived. I am wondering if more > investigation is needed to determine the root cause of his problems. Probably not. Sounds a lot like a " universal reactor " chemically sensitive person with intestinal permeability and wild dysbiosis the chelators make worse. Appropriate therapies are HCl for digestion, gut healing nutrients, and rotation of vitamin C from different sources plus vitamin E in 4x the usual dose every 4th day while you sort things out. If he is very soy allergic use rice derived tocotrienol form vitamin E. > Can anyone suggest what testing might need to be done? My DAN doc is > suggesting a comprehensive stool analysis and quantitative amino acid > analysis. What other issues should we be examining? My priority order would be: 1. Plasma cysteine, or the comprehensive detoxification profile, 2. Thyroid testing, all of TSH, T3, T4, free T3, free T4. All of them. Not some of them, not a different set of things. Insurance should cover this. 3. IgG food allergies unless you already did it and that is where the list above comes from. 40 amino acid panel (PLASMA ONLY, not urine) and stool analyses may be informative, may not. Ditto for organic acid test and fatty acid profile. CBC and chem panel may be as informative as these and do have the merits of being something insurance usually covers. I would also try NAET on him on general principles. With kids you can watch, find a cooperative practitioner and learn to do it yourself using acupressure. > Also I should > mention that his behavior is not in general worse, just not better, > so I don't think it is yeast. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Have you tried betaine HCl for the low stomach acid? [ ] Lack of Progress Hi all, I have been chelating my seven year old with ALA/DSMA every four hours since January. At first, it was just ALA which he did not seem to tolerate in even a small dose. I switched to DSMA alone and he actually seemed to improve a little. It seems to be short lived, while we are chelating and then he regresses and we to where he was before. A little background: He is lead toxic, deficiencies in selenium, B viamins and iron. There were also several food sensitivities including milk, wheat, soy, chocolate, nitrates, food dyes, peanuts, MSG , Aspartame and sugar. He also has very low HCL, or stomach acid. Very few supplements have seemed to make a difference. We tried SNT, EFA's, enzymes, probiotics, amino acids, zinc, vitamin C, magnesium to name a few. The only one that seemd to help was selenium, but also very short lived. I am wondering if more investigation is needed to determine the root cause of his problems. Can anyone suggest what testing might need to be done? My DAN doc is suggesting a comprehensive stool analysis and quantitative amino acid analysis. What other issues should we be examining? I should mention that his behavior is not in general worse, just not better, so I don't think it is yeast. Thanks, Tina Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Hi Tina, I really like the paper on line at the Childrens Biomedical Center of Utah inc. ( cbcutah.com ) by Jepson MD called " Understanding Autism " This paper will explain why your DAN doctor wants these test and if you do have them run do get a copy for yourself because are full of info. Things are going to fall into a course of action and I beleave you as the parent need to be the leader of this action. The stool sample test is really good and you will learn much from it but the amino acid test could tell you what your child ate last if your doctor does not tell you to have a small (6 hour )fast before hand.( I would order from Kirkmans there amino acids supplement and give daily and skip that test if I had to do it over again) It seems like you have given up on the supplements you have tried in the past and that is to bad; after dealing with this for years you will learn and from what you have posted your son probably can not even uptake the nutreints he need and if this goes on and on he gets sicker and sicker. I would give every supplement in Jepson's paper and overtime you will see a difference. My son is really getting healthy now and I know he can uptake the nutreints he needs. Pay close attention to the supplements Jepson's give during Chelation and follow that forsure. Without zinc you are just spinning your wheels. If you are looking for a good book to referance what function all this different stuff/supplements has- I would get the book " Prescription for Nutritional Healing " by Balch and Balch it will be at the health food store where you shop. My 2 cents Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 --- In , " busyboysca " <tinaszenasi@h...> wrote: > Can anyone suggest what testing might need to be done? My DAN doc is > suggesting a comprehensive stool analysis and quantitative amino acid > analysis. What other issues should we be examining? My son will appear to have no improvement if I give him supplements or foods which he still does not tolerate. So I would guess that your son might still be eating foods or supplements he does not tolerate. It also took my son many rounds before his improvement was noticeable and sustained. Good luck. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 In a message dated 4/23/03 10:15:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, danaatty@... writes: << It also took my son many rounds before his improvement was noticeable and sustained. Good luck. Dana >> If I may interject a question; how many rounds.did it take? Thanks, Michele Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 OK Tina, what about this: Metallothionein Deficiency: J. Walsh Ph.D. Pfeiffer Treatment Center Naperville, Illinois. (www.hriptc.org) Walsh will send info to your doctor on this if you can get your doctor intrested. He has come up with a protocal and Metallothionein Promotion or MT-promotion Therapy. MT deficiency consistent with classic autism symptoms. Human Metallothionein is short linear arrays of sixty-one to sixty-eight amino acids: lack is induced by absence of Cu, Zn regulation in blood,toxic metals, physical trauma, and emotional strees. the MT family: MT1 and MT2 are present in all cells throughout the brain and periphery. MT3 is a neuronal growth - inhibition factor found primarily in the brain. MT4 is found in the epitelia of the upper GI track. Primary Objective: Enhanced devalopment of new brain cells and synaptic connections to enable advances is cognition, socialization and speech. Secondary Objectives: Elimination of toxic metals and excess Cu; improveed immune function; healing of GI tract; reduced food sensitivities. MT promotion Protocal: Aggressive Zinc Loading( typically 3mg/kg daily peroid of 6 -8 weeks) nutrients MG,MN,B-6,C,E,P5P( P5P is pyridoxal-5-phosphate) MTP formulation with continued zinc therapy 3 or 4 days than off 3or4 to tolerance to everyday use: Metallothionein Promotion Formulation: nutrients which enhance induction, activation and the exchange of MT... Zinc Picolinate,p5p,Magnesium gluconate,Magnesium Ascorbate,Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Glutathione,Selenium,vitamins C & E Amino acids of Metallothionein... Serine, lysine, alanine, Valine, Glycine, Threonine, Proline, Aspartic acid, Isoleucine, Asparagine, glutamic acid, methionine, and glutamine. Large amounts of Zn required initial therapy- 7 Zn atoms needed for each MT molecule formed-- 22 % report initial sensitivity to MT promotion - 87% reported overall improvement and greatest advances achieved in cogition, socialization and speech. Well I hope you will use some of this info. My 2 cents Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 > In a message dated 4/23/03 10:15:59 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > danaatty@y... writes: > > << It also took my son many rounds before his improvement was noticeable > and sustained. > > Good luck. > > Dana >> > > If I may interject a question; how many rounds.did it take? Well I can't really remember now, it has been a LONG HAUL! You can read my son's page if you want http://www.danasview.net/myson.htm I just remember reporting good improvements, then setbacks, etc. Recently I have had one setback, but mostly improvements. The last few rounds were amazing! These were rounds 61-62 tho, so it has been quite a while. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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