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Hi Bill-- are you having symptoms of arsenic poisoning--I'm only

asking out of curiosity because I have a friend in tx whose son is

very high in arsenic, too, and it'd be good to know what it feels

like from an adult's perspective.

You don't need a doctor to rx the dmsa for you-- check out this File

on the board

http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/EMclP_SBL9V1RQkVLqytI7E4-

FhLuTulJZgsNxb_eIBq7z1D6op5IZ9AcIEfZfc9uY-

cNtz69Oj2CYC1cUJf71eadZE/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA

If it didn't come through as a link, just go to the Files and scroll

down till you see How To Buy DMSA.

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--- In , " Bill Coward " <wrcoward@h...>

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> Hello All,

>

> I'm a new member to this group. Unlike most members who have a

child with Autism being treated for mercury poisoning, I'm an adult

recently exposed to arsenic by handling treated wood without gloves

and sawing the wood without a mask.

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Hello Bill Coward,

> I'm a new member to this group. Unlike most members who have a

child with Autism being treated for mercury poisoning, I'm an adult

recently exposed to arsenic by handling treated wood without gloves

and sawing the wood without a mask. I had a Doctor's Data hair

analysis test done and the result confirmed my suspicion about the

arsenic. It was elevated midway into the yellow band.

I know this may sound weird, but midway through the yellow band

is not outrageously high. Although I can think of some potential

reasons that it could be worse than your hair test says----still,

did you also check the counting rules for mercury?

/files/HOW_TO_hair_test

> I was drawn to this group through a research hit on Cutler.

I understand his recommended protocol for mercury (DMSA and ALA) are

also the chelators of choice for arsenic.

It is ALA that is recommended as chelator of arsenic.

> I'm very interested in using this protocol and am now searching for

a doctor in Houston that will prescribe DMSA in the recommended

dosages. Has anyone in this area found a doctor they can recommend?

I don't know any doctors in Texas. Here is some ***general***

advice about some websites with referrals:

/files/HOW_TO_find_doctor

This list can also give you comments on Texas doctors:

Autism Treatment/

I think the FILES there have some info on Texas doctors,

and, of course, asking for info is likely to get you info.

best,

Moria

[still generally about 3 days behind on posts]

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Welcome ( ),

:)

My son is toxic for arsenic as well. (His band is in the red) DMSA will

chelate it. I have just started, so I dont have alot of progress information

yet. Good luck. You are in a great place.....

[ ] New Member -- Arsenic -- Need Doctor in Houston

Hello All,

I'm a new member to this group. Unlike most members who have a child with

Autism being treated for mercury poisoning, I'm an adult recently exposed to

arsenic by handling treated wood without gloves and sawing the wood without

a mask. I had a Doctor's Data hair analysis test done and the result

confirmed my suspicion about the arsenic. It was elevated midway into the

yellow band.

I was drawn to this group through a research hit on Cutler. I

understand his recommended protocol for mercury (DMSA and ALA) are also the

chelators of choice for arsenic. I'm very interested in using this

protocol and am now searching for a doctor in Houston that will prescribe

DMSA in the recommended dosages. Has anyone in this area found a doctor

they can recommend? Since I'm new I don't know if mentioning doctors is

allowed. If it isn't, feel free to respond to me directly at

wrcoward@....

Thanks.

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Bill,

Welcome to the list. I'm also an adult who has had mercury poisoning and am

still working on arsenic detox. Some of my arsenic exposure (from pesticides on

goolf course and cotton fields) occurred while I lived in TX. I don't have a

child with ASD but have a nephew who does and I've also worked with both

children and adults with ASD. DMSA works for mercury and lead, ALA works for

mercury and arsenic. Please note that you must not use either of these if you

have mercury amalgam dental fillings (many dentists call them " silver " fillings.

It will cause the mercury from them to circulate and do more harm.

S

>

Hello All,<BR>

<BR>

I'm a new member to this group.  Unlike most members who have a child with

Autism being treated for mercury poisoning, I'm an adult recently exposed to

arsenic by handling treated wood without gloves and sawing the wood without a

mask.  I had a Doctor's Data hair analysis test done and the result confirmed my

suspicion about the arsenic.  It was elevated midway into the yellow band.<BR>

<BR>

I was drawn to this group through a research hit on Cutler.  I understand

his recommended protocol for mercury (DMSA and ALA) are also the chelators of

choice for arsenic.   I'm very interested in using this protocol and am now

searching for a doctor in Houston that will prescribe DMSA in the recommended

dosages.  Has anyone in this area found a doctor they can recommend?  Since I'm

new I don't know if mentioning doctors is allowed.  If it isn't, feel free to

respond to me directly at wrcoward@....<BR>

<BR>

Thanks.    <BR>

<BR>

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> I'm an adult recently exposed to arsenic by handling

> treated wood without gloves and sawing the wood without a mask.

> I had a Doctor's Data hair analysis test done and the result

> confirmed my suspicion about the arsenic.

Hi Bill,

I've sent you an e-mail with some suggestions, but wanted to add the

paragraph below.

Apparently if you live in the Southern states -- Louisiana and Texas

are the only ones I've heard about personally -- termites are a BIG

problem. And the " termite control companies " are a big problem

too. They like chlordane, a horrible substance for humans, and use

it to (sometimes) create " lakes " of pesticide in basements of houses

and apartments, etc. In basements, because that's where the

termites come from.

Here is a paragraph which gives an example of how some companies

behave:

" Chlordane Contamination of Houston, Texas Properties --

In 1989 multiple apartment locations in Houston, TX were sprayed on

the exterior of the building with the termite control product,

technical chlordane. ETI provided extensive environmental surveys

and analytical testing for chlordane in the air, on surfaces, in

HVAC filters and other apartment contents of four different

apartment complexes in litigation by the law firm of Caddell and

Conwell, Houston, TX against the owners of the apartments. Dr.

Simon, ETI expert witness, provided extensive testimony on

the ETI surveys, testing and the toxicology of chlordane. "

If there is some chance that chlordane, or some organophosphate, is

also part of your problems, there is a specific enzyme that should

be looked at.

Best regards,

P.F. Jennings

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Dr. Pharo is pretty good and also open to individualizing protocols.

Sorry I no longer have her phone number but she's in the Galleria area and

you can probably find her in the phone book. We also saw Dr. Battle on

Long Point but I would recommend against using him.

Gaylen

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Hello ,

My major symptoms have been lack of energy; drowsiness; increased

sensitivity to certain foods, molds, and chemicals; even worse ringing of

the ears; concentration problems; depressed white cell count; slower heart

rate; one noticeable case of low blood pressure upon standing; and one

noticeable case of low blood sugar (at least, that's what I think it was.)

Some of the symptoms seem to be related to arsenic's effect on the adrenals.

I've been taking 5mg of Cortisol a day. I noticed some improvement but not

much. I did find a doctor that prescribes Cortisol, and as of yesterday

said I could increase the dosage gradually to 10-15mg per day. Hopefully,

that will make a more noticeable difference in some of these symptoms. I'm

getting an /ACT allergy test run to help identify what foods and other

things I should avoid to reduce my symptoms.

Bill

[ ] Re: New Member -- Arsenic -- Need Doctor in

Houston

| Hi Bill-- are you having symptoms of arsenic poisoning--I'm only

| asking out of curiosity because I have a friend in tx whose son is

| very high in arsenic, too, and it'd be good to know what it feels

| like from an adult's perspective.

|

| You don't need a doctor to rx the dmsa for you-- check out this File

| on the board

|

| http://f1.grp.fs.com/v1/EMclP_SBL9V1RQkVLqytI7E4-

| FhLuTulJZgsNxb_eIBq7z1D6op5IZ9AcIEfZfc9uY-

| cNtz69Oj2CYC1cUJf71eadZE/HOW_TO_buy_DMSA

|

| If it didn't come through as a link, just go to the Files and scroll

| down till you see How To Buy DMSA.

|

| W

|

|

|

| > Hello All,

| >

| > I'm a new member to this group. Unlike most members who have a

| child with Autism being treated for mercury poisoning, I'm an adult

| recently exposed to arsenic by handling treated wood without gloves

| and sawing the wood without a mask.

|

|

| =======================================================

|

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Hello Moria,

I haven't done the counting rules for mercury yet, but I'm sure I have

mercury as well as arsenic. The DD hair analysis is all over the map for

essential minerals, as noted it would be with mercury. I've also had

several DMPS challenge tests about 7 years ago with high readings

post-challenge. My amalgams were removed about ten years ago so haven't had

any recent exposure to mercury that I know of. But I know it's still there

and suspect it has had a lot to do with my allergies and sensitivities over

the years.

Bill

[ ] Re: New Member -- Arsenic -- Need Doctor in

Houston

| Hello Bill Coward,

|

| > I'm a new member to this group. Unlike most members who have a

| child with Autism being treated for mercury poisoning, I'm an adult

| recently exposed to arsenic by handling treated wood without gloves

| and sawing the wood without a mask. I had a Doctor's Data hair

| analysis test done and the result confirmed my suspicion about the

| arsenic. It was elevated midway into the yellow band.

|

| I know this may sound weird, but midway through the yellow band

| is not outrageously high. Although I can think of some potential

| reasons that it could be worse than your hair test says----still,

| did you also check the counting rules for mercury?

| /files/HOW_TO_hair_test

|

| > I was drawn to this group through a research hit on Cutler.

| I understand his recommended protocol for mercury (DMSA and ALA) are

| also the chelators of choice for arsenic.

|

| It is ALA that is recommended as chelator of arsenic.

|

| > I'm very interested in using this protocol and am now searching for

| a doctor in Houston that will prescribe DMSA in the recommended

| dosages. Has anyone in this area found a doctor they can recommend?

|

| I don't know any doctors in Texas. Here is some ***general***

| advice about some websites with referrals:

| /files/HOW_TO_find_doctor

|

| This list can also give you comments on Texas doctors:

| Autism Treatment/

| I think the FILES there have some info on Texas doctors,

| and, of course, asking for info is likely to get you info.

|

| best,

| Moria

| [still generally about 3 days behind on posts]

|

|

|

|

|

| =======================================================

|

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Hello PF,

Yes, there are lots of termites in Houston. We had ours treated but it's

been many years ago. I have chemical sensitivities that may have come from

pesticides. Our house doesn't have a basement, but I suspect past exposures

to chemicals are part of the culprit.

Bill

[ ] Re: New Member -- Arsenic -- Need Doctor in

Houston

|

|

| > I'm an adult recently exposed to arsenic by handling

| > treated wood without gloves and sawing the wood without a mask.

| > I had a Doctor's Data hair analysis test done and the result

| > confirmed my suspicion about the arsenic.

|

| Hi Bill,

|

| I've sent you an e-mail with some suggestions, but wanted to add the

| paragraph below.

|

| Apparently if you live in the Southern states -- Louisiana and Texas

| are the only ones I've heard about personally -- termites are a BIG

| problem. And the " termite control companies " are a big problem

| too. They like chlordane, a horrible substance for humans, and use

| it to (sometimes) create " lakes " of pesticide in basements of houses

| and apartments, etc. In basements, because that's where the

| termites come from.

|

| Here is a paragraph which gives an example of how some companies

| behave:

| " Chlordane Contamination of Houston, Texas Properties --

| In 1989 multiple apartment locations in Houston, TX were sprayed on

| the exterior of the building with the termite control product,

| technical chlordane. ETI provided extensive environmental surveys

| and analytical testing for chlordane in the air, on surfaces, in

| HVAC filters and other apartment contents of four different

| apartment complexes in litigation by the law firm of Caddell and

| Conwell, Houston, TX against the owners of the apartments. Dr.

| Simon, ETI expert witness, provided extensive testimony on

| the ETI surveys, testing and the toxicology of chlordane. "

|

| If there is some chance that chlordane, or some organophosphate, is

| also part of your problems, there is a specific enzyme that should

| be looked at.

|

| Best regards,

|

| P.F. Jennings

|

|

|

|

|

| =======================================================

|

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I know this isn't going to be all that helpful but perhaps you can

search the archives on some of these words. In my very sketchy

notes, I wrote treating arsenic:

5 - 10 mg ALA every 3-4 hours on a 3/11 schedule. & 100 mc.

selenomethionine daily, vitamin C & B complex and extra biotin 4X

per day.

Hope that helps.

Truly,

a

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