Re: MITO: Anyone working with an IQ of 60?

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Sorry is having more problems.Cold weather really bothers too.It just seems to take soooo much energy to keep the body warm.

The last time actually had her IQ checked it was a little over 70.This would mean she could be trained.BUT (notice that is a big but) she has so many other things going on.She is blind,hard of hearing,very poor speech (really almost no speech anymore)motor skills problems (fine & gross) doesn't walk now,and the biggest problem of all ENERGY.She never seems to have any!!

So to me,at least, the IQ itself doesn't mean a whole lot.Our kids have so many things going on, not just mental abilities.

I hope you do find answers and hope is doing better soon.

By the way,why is so cold where you are.I thought you were in Alabama,it's not supposed to get that cold in Alabama.

We're in Kentucky,last week it was 60 now it's barely 30.I think we would all do better if it stayed either warm or cold.This going back and forth makes everybody feel bad.

, Mom to

MITO: Anyone working with an IQ of 60?

Hi guys!

had 8 hours of neuro-phyc testing done back in October. The Dr. still has not gotten the report finished. When I called his office the sec said she had not ever started it.

Yet they wanted us to drive 3 1/2 hours up there to discus everything and work out what we would plan to do next.

I told them I wanted the written report first so T and I could read over it.

I do know that 's IQ is down to 60. So anyone else out there have a child/adult on this level who can tell me what kinds of things they really understand when at this level? I dont want to reqire to much of her if she cant do something, and cause her more frustration and sadness but I do want to keep her going as much as I can. I just want to understand where she is coming from so I can help her as much as I can get the best from her life. I plan a trip to talk with a lady at mental health also but she wants me to bring the report when I come soooooooooo......I wait

It has been so cold here and she has not been doing as well. Cant get outside much and dealing with more pain, tics and nausea.

Well thanks guys you are great!

HorsleyPlease contact mito-owner with any problems or questions.

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Laurel,

I agree wholeheartedly that test scores can very from day to day. As a teacher I know that you can not put all your faith in the test scores. They can give you a range. But as you say, different people and situations produce different scores. And the range within a certain score is huge.

Good info. thanks.

-----Original Message-----From: Dalsmith@... Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:53 PMTo: Mito Subject: Re: MITO: Anyone working with an IQ of 60?,First let me give you the Mom side of the coin. As son gets older and I see him unable to do the things he used to do so easily it tears me up inside. I know a lot of it is there, but he just doesn't have the energy. The wide fluctuations in his abilities from one day to the next, are so upsetting. He is going to have his psycho ed evals in the next few weeks and I dread the results, however, I will remind myself that they are just numbers. Now the professional side. I have worked with parents and students for many years and the one thing that I tell them is to not get hung up on the numbers. Just like the mito, they can vary tremendously.For example, I currently have two girls in our program with IQs in the high 50s low 60s. One is able to read, write and care for herself quite well (3rd grade level and the child is 16). The other is still working on telling time with a digital clock, writing her name and caring for her own personal hygiene. If we took the numbers alone, the one girl should have tested higher and the other lower. The numbers are a reflection of one person's testing on one day in time. Sort of like a snapshot. Sometimes you get a nice photo, other times it is a lousy one. I have two teachers in the program who use the same standardized testing. Technically, they should test the same. However, I can tell you that if one person conducts the testing, the child will come out higher. If the other tests, the child will come out lower. Hope this helps.LaurelPlease contact mito-owner with any problems or questions.

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Laurel,

I agree wholeheartedly that test scores can very from day to day. As a teacher I know that you can not put all your faith in the test scores. They can give you a range. But as you say, different people and situations produce different scores. And the range within a certain score is huge.

Good info. thanks.

-----Original Message-----From: Dalsmith@... Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:53 PMTo: Mito Subject: Re: MITO: Anyone working with an IQ of 60?,First let me give you the Mom side of the coin. As son gets older and I see him unable to do the things he used to do so easily it tears me up inside. I know a lot of it is there, but he just doesn't have the energy. The wide fluctuations in his abilities from one day to the next, are so upsetting. He is going to have his psycho ed evals in the next few weeks and I dread the results, however, I will remind myself that they are just numbers. Now the professional side. I have worked with parents and students for many years and the one thing that I tell them is to not get hung up on the numbers. Just like the mito, they can vary tremendously.For example, I currently have two girls in our program with IQs in the high 50s low 60s. One is able to read, write and care for herself quite well (3rd grade level and the child is 16). The other is still working on telling time with a digital clock, writing her name and caring for her own personal hygiene. If we took the numbers alone, the one girl should have tested higher and the other lower. The numbers are a reflection of one person's testing on one day in time. Sort of like a snapshot. Sometimes you get a nice photo, other times it is a lousy one. I have two teachers in the program who use the same standardized testing. Technically, they should test the same. However, I can tell you that if one person conducts the testing, the child will come out higher. If the other tests, the child will come out lower. Hope this helps.LaurelPlease contact mito-owner with any problems or questions.

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Laurel,

I agree wholeheartedly that test scores can very from day to day. As a teacher I know that you can not put all your faith in the test scores. They can give you a range. But as you say, different people and situations produce different scores. And the range within a certain score is huge.

Good info. thanks.

-----Original Message-----From: Dalsmith@... Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 1:53 PMTo: Mito Subject: Re: MITO: Anyone working with an IQ of 60?,First let me give you the Mom side of the coin. As son gets older and I see him unable to do the things he used to do so easily it tears me up inside. I know a lot of it is there, but he just doesn't have the energy. The wide fluctuations in his abilities from one day to the next, are so upsetting. He is going to have his psycho ed evals in the next few weeks and I dread the results, however, I will remind myself that they are just numbers. Now the professional side. I have worked with parents and students for many years and the one thing that I tell them is to not get hung up on the numbers. Just like the mito, they can vary tremendously.For example, I currently have two girls in our program with IQs in the high 50s low 60s. One is able to read, write and care for herself quite well (3rd grade level and the child is 16). The other is still working on telling time with a digital clock, writing her name and caring for her own personal hygiene. If we took the numbers alone, the one girl should have tested higher and the other lower. The numbers are a reflection of one person's testing on one day in time. Sort of like a snapshot. Sometimes you get a nice photo, other times it is a lousy one. I have two teachers in the program who use the same standardized testing. Technically, they should test the same. However, I can tell you that if one person conducts the testing, the child will come out higher. If the other tests, the child will come out lower. Hope this helps.LaurelPlease contact mito-owner with any problems or questions.

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>I do know that 's IQ is down to 60. So anyone else out there have

>a child/adult on this level who can tell me what kinds of things they really

>understand when at this level?

Hi ,

IQ test often require physical skills as well. Not knowing how much fine

motor challenge your DD has, I don't know if that could be negatively

impacting her scores.

My son has an IQ in the 60s range and there is no way he is MR. He is

delayed, but more by his medical challenges. It is quite clear to me and his

docs that the physical things required of him to do on such test that he

can't do well or within a certain time frame, affect the score and have

nothing to do with cognitive ability.

If you want me to discuss his cognitive delays, I'll be happy to do so

privately.

Cheri