Re: To Chelate or Not - Andy/others

[Guest guest]

I would get started ASAP especially if lead is high. This is the

best way to see if it helps and the younger the better.

Chelation has helped my son so much.

nne

--- In , " parent616 " <parent616@h...>

wrote:

> We did Doctor's Data Hair Test. According to the counting rules,

my

> son, age 2.5, does not have mercury toxicity. However, other

metals

> were high.

>

> Lead 2.5 Ref. range<1.0

> Aluminum 13 Ref. range <8.0

> Cadmium 0.31 Ref. range <0.15

> Arsenic 0.098 Ref. range <0.08

> Tin 0.33 Ref. range <0.3

> Titanium 1.1 Ref. range <1.0

>

> The total toxic representation was in the high yellow.

> I don't know where he got the lead from - not pipes or paint etc.

> We have been doing strict GFCF, yeast free etc., supplements etc.,

> therapy since July (2 months after DPTP and dramatic regression)

and he

> continues to regress. Is getting rid of metals the key?

> Thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

Is 2.5 high? It was in the yellow?

> > We did Doctor's Data Hair Test. According to the counting rules,

> my

> > son, age 2.5, does not have mercury toxicity. However, other

> metals

> > were high.

> >

> > Lead 2.5 Ref. range<1.0

> > Aluminum 13 Ref. range <8.0

> > Cadmium 0.31 Ref. range <0.15

> > Arsenic 0.098 Ref. range <0.08

> > Tin 0.33 Ref. range <0.3

> > Titanium 1.1 Ref. range <1.0

> >

> > The total toxic representation was in the high yellow.

> > I don't know where he got the lead from - not pipes or paint etc.

> > We have been doing strict GFCF, yeast free etc., supplements etc.,

> > therapy since July (2 months after DPTP and dramatic regression)

> and he

> > continues to regress. Is getting rid of metals the key?

> > Thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

Yes, it is very high. My son had lead 2.2. After 1.5 years of

chelation the lead in the hair test got down to 1. Urine tests on

DMSA showed very high lead all the time.

ALA will take care of arsenic.

Margaret

> > > We did Doctor's Data Hair Test. According to the counting

rules,

> > my

> > > son, age 2.5, does not have mercury toxicity. However, other

> > metals

> > > were high.

> > >

> > > Lead 2.5 Ref. range<1.0

> > > Aluminum 13 Ref. range <8.0

> > > Cadmium 0.31 Ref. range <0.15

> > > Arsenic 0.098 Ref. range <0.08

> > > Tin 0.33 Ref. range <0.3

> > > Titanium 1.1 Ref. range <1.0

> > >

> > > The total toxic representation was in the high yellow.

> > > I don't know where he got the lead from - not pipes or paint

etc.

> > > We have been doing strict GFCF, yeast free etc., supplements

etc.,

> > > therapy since July (2 months after DPTP and dramatic

regression)

> > and he

> > > continues to regress. Is getting rid of metals the key?

> > > Thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

It is my understanding that Mercury poison may not be correctly

reflected to the full extent through the hair test until the other

metals are brought under control along with the essential elements.

The esential elements being out of " tune " would be an indicator of

mercury poisoning. The dissruption in the mineral transports would

be caused by the mercury. The hair test is a bad or less than

desireable indicator of mercury poisoning because it actually

reflects what is being excreted by the body. Mercury is a well

binding metal, that is to say, it will hide within the organs and

brain. I hope this helps....treat him NOW and good luck with God

speed.

> We did Doctor's Data Hair Test. According to the counting rules,

my

> son, age 2.5, does not have mercury toxicity. However, other

metals

> were high.

>

> Lead 2.5 Ref. range<1.0

> Aluminum 13 Ref. range <8.0

> Cadmium 0.31 Ref. range <0.15

> Arsenic 0.098 Ref. range <0.08

> Tin 0.33 Ref. range <0.3

> Titanium 1.1 Ref. range <1.0

>

> The total toxic representation was in the high yellow.

> I don't know where he got the lead from - not pipes or paint etc.

> We have been doing strict GFCF, yeast free etc., supplements etc.,

> therapy since July (2 months after DPTP and dramatic regression)

and he

> continues to regress. Is getting rid of metals the key?

> Thanks in advance.

[Guest guest]

> Lead 2.5 Ref. range<1.0

> Aluminum 13 Ref. range <8.0

> Cadmium 0.31 Ref. range <0.15

> Arsenic 0.098 Ref. range <0.08

> Tin 0.33 Ref. range <0.3

> Titanium 1.1 Ref. range <1.0

>

> The total toxic representation was in the high yellow.

> I don't know where he got the lead from

Consider removing sources

http://www.danasview.net/metals.htm

> We have been doing strict GFCF, yeast free etc., supplements etc.,

> therapy since July (2 months after DPTP and dramatic regression)and he

> continues to regress. Is getting rid of metals the key?

My son showed almost no improvement until I started chelating with ALA. He

still needed a few other things besides chelation, but

chelation was the key. He no longer qualifies as autistic, and I will have him

re-dx in March or April.

Dana

[Guest guest]

> We did Doctor's Data Hair Test. According to the counting rules, my

> son, age 2.5, does not have mercury toxicity. However, other metals

> were high.

>

> Lead 2.5 Ref. range<1.0

> Aluminum 13 Ref. range <8.0

> Cadmium 0.31 Ref. range <0.15

> Arsenic 0.098 Ref. range <0.08

> Tin 0.33 Ref. range <0.3

> Titanium 1.1 Ref. range <1.0

>

> The total toxic representation was in the high yellow.

> I don't know where he got the lead from - not pipes or paint etc.

> We have been doing strict GFCF, yeast free etc., supplements etc.,

> therapy since July (2 months after DPTP and dramatic regression)and he

> continues to regress. Is getting rid of metals the key?

> Thanks in advance.

The following very general comments relate to toxic metals

on hair tests. I don't know what percentile (or color) the

values you listed would be, so I'm just making some general

comments.

Yellow scores (especially the lower or middle part of yellow)

are not really all that uncommon. Of course, that doesn't mean

that is " good " , but it is not the same as obvious overt

metal poisoning. I have a hard time saying this clearly,

as I am of 2 minds about it. It is not THAT high, but

I still don't really like it. I personally especially am

uncomfortable with lead. If it was my body, I would try

to lower any toxics that are in yellow even though it is

not obvious overt metal poisoning.

RED scores are obvious overt -- the top 5% of results.

In addition to the toxic metals you listed, also take a

look at the results for copper (which is listed under

the essential elements section). Check if it is in red.

If so, this also is obvious overt metal toxicity.

Chelation is also a type of " test " .

You may want to try chelation, AND you may also want to

think about other areas to explore.

Moria

[Guest guest]

Thanks Moria. That makes sense. His copper is right at the 50th

percentile. So that's good. What other areas do you suggest we

explore? We are doing a lot to clear his gut of bacteria and improve

his nutritional status. Are there other ways of getting rid of lead

and other metals that we could try before chelation?

Thanks,

Hope

> --- In , " parent616 " <parent616@h...>

wrote:

> > We did Doctor's Data Hair Test. According to the counting rules, my

> > son, age 2.5, does not have mercury toxicity. However, other metals

> > were high.

> >

> > Lead 2.5 Ref. range<1.0

> > Aluminum 13 Ref. range <8.0

> > Cadmium 0.31 Ref. range <0.15

> > Arsenic 0.098 Ref. range <0.08

> > Tin 0.33 Ref. range <0.3

> > Titanium 1.1 Ref. range <1.0

> >

> > The total toxic representation was in the high yellow.

> > I don't know where he got the lead from - not pipes or paint etc.

> > We have been doing strict GFCF, yeast free etc., supplements etc.,

> > therapy since July (2 months after DPTP and dramatic regression)and he

> > continues to regress. Is getting rid of metals the key?

> > Thanks in advance.

>

> The following very general comments relate to toxic metals

> on hair tests. I don't know what percentile (or color) the

> values you listed would be, so I'm just making some general

> comments.

>

> Yellow scores (especially the lower or middle part of yellow)

> are not really all that uncommon. Of course, that doesn't mean

> that is " good " , but it is not the same as obvious overt

> metal poisoning. I have a hard time saying this clearly,

> as I am of 2 minds about it. It is not THAT high, but

> I still don't really like it. I personally especially am

> uncomfortable with lead. If it was my body, I would try

> to lower any toxics that are in yellow even though it is

> not obvious overt metal poisoning.

>

> RED scores are obvious overt -- the top 5% of results.

>

> In addition to the toxic metals you listed, also take a

> look at the results for copper (which is listed under

> the essential elements section). Check if it is in red.

> If so, this also is obvious overt metal toxicity.

>

> Chelation is also a type of " test " .

>

> You may want to try chelation, AND you may also want to

> think about other areas to explore.

>

> Moria

[Guest guest]

> > > We did Doctor's Data Hair Test. According to the counting rules, my

> > > son, age 2.5, does not have mercury toxicity. However, other metals

> > > were high.

> > >

> > > Lead 2.5 Ref. range<1.0

> > > Aluminum 13 Ref. range <8.0

> > > Cadmium 0.31 Ref. range <0.15

> > > Arsenic 0.098 Ref. range <0.08

> > > Tin 0.33 Ref. range <0.3

> > > Titanium 1.1 Ref. range <1.0

> > >

> > > The total toxic representation was in the high yellow.

> > > I don't know where he got the lead from - not pipes or paint etc.

> > > We have been doing strict GFCF, yeast free etc., supplements etc.,

> > > therapy since July (2 months after DPTP and dramatic

regression)and he

> > > continues to regress. Is getting rid of metals the key?

> > > Thanks in advance.

> >

> > The following very general comments relate to toxic metals

> > on hair tests. I don't know what percentile (or color) the

> > values you listed would be, so I'm just making some general

> > comments.

> >

> > Yellow scores (especially the lower or middle part of yellow)

> > are not really all that uncommon. Of course, that doesn't mean

> > that is " good " , but it is not the same as obvious overt

> > metal poisoning. I have a hard time saying this clearly,

> > as I am of 2 minds about it. It is not THAT high, but

> > I still don't really like it. I personally especially am

> > uncomfortable with lead. If it was my body, I would try

> > to lower any toxics that are in yellow even though it is

> > not obvious overt metal poisoning.

> >

> > RED scores are obvious overt -- the top 5% of results.

> >

> > In addition to the toxic metals you listed, also take a

> > look at the results for copper (which is listed under

> > the essential elements section). Check if it is in red.

> > If so, this also is obvious overt metal toxicity.

> >

> > Chelation is also a type of " test " .

> >

> > You may want to try chelation, AND you may also want to

> > think about other areas to explore.

> >

> > Moria